I've seen this title appearing on shelves in the UK recently. Presumably
it's a Dreamcast port, as DC sites have the only reviews I can find on the
net. That said, those reviews reckon it's the DC's answer to Sony's Gran
Turismo. Anyone tried it on the PC? Is it a must-have, or a 10-day return?
Thanks in advance,
Rick.
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> I've seen this title appearing on shelves in the UK recently.Presumably
> it's a Dreamcast port, as DC sites have the only reviews I can find onthe
> net. That said, those reviews reckon it's the DC's answer to Sony'sGran
> Turismo. Anyone tried it on the PC? Is it a must-have, or a 10-dayreturn?
More like "immediate return", from what I've heard. Think that new
Activision
"Supercar Challenge", with INFERIOR graphics. (FYI, that Activision game
for
only 4.3/10 rating from Gamespot.com)
--KC
Total and utter rubbish, another class product from that great publisher
Empire. Dont go near it is my advice.
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> I've seen this title appearing on shelves in the UK recently. Presumably > it's a Dreamcast port, as DC sites have the only reviews I can find on the > net. That said, those reviews reckon it's the DC's answer to Sony's Gran > Turismo. Anyone tried it on the PC? Is it a must-have, or a 10-day return? > > Thanks in advance, > > Rick. > > >>> That said, those reviews reckon it's the DC's answer to Sony's
>> Gran Turismo. Anyone tried it on the PC? Is it a must-have, or a 10-day
>> return?
>
>More like "immediate return", from what I've heard. Think that new
>Activision "Supercar Challenge", with INFERIOR graphics. (FYI, that Activisiongame
>for only 4.3/10 rating from Gamespot.com)
I have the DC version. I find it vastly inferior to the PS GT series. Queries
to this ng similar to yours re: the PC version have resulted in uniformly
negative replies. If I recall, at least one who ignored and bought returned it
immediately. Don't bother.
10 day return or quicker! Not good at all
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> I've seen this title appearing on shelves in the UK recently. Presumably > it's a Dreamcast port, as DC sites have the only reviews I can find on the > net. That said, those reviews reckon it's the DC's answer to Sony's Gran > Turismo. Anyone tried it on the PC? Is it a must-have, or a 10-day return? > > Thanks in advance, > > Rick. > > >Makes you wonder a bit, when a publisher has no problems in releasing a game
that is so bad. Obviously a complete lack of respect for their customers,
but I guess the lack of a demo should be a warning.
> 10 day return or quicker! Not good at all
Blimey - must be bad!
Thanks for the tip.
Rick.
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> Makes you wonder a bit, when a publisher has no problems in releasinga game
> that is so bad. Obviously a complete lack of respect for theircustomers,
> but I guess the lack of a demo should be a warning.
You have to consider the following factors also:
1) It's a port, which costs a lot less than a game developed from
scratch.
2) It's a budget title (usually like $20 in stores), and those have
lower
expectations.
3) it's an arcady game, which means you should expect too much
"real-life"
stuff.
As long as the game sticks with its rules, you can play it fine. The
problem
mainly in this case is the game PRETENDS to be a car sim, when it is
not.
It's basically a fancy "Outrun".
Heck, how can you "sideslip" in an ANTI-GRAV vehicle like in Star Wars
Racer? Huh? Yet no one ever complains about that. :-) Yet people
complain
about car sims all the time. :-) Different expectations. ;-)
--KC
> I've seen this title appearing on shelves in the UK recently. Presumably
> it's a Dreamcast port, as DC sites have the only reviews I can find on the
> net. That said, those reviews reckon it's the DC's answer to Sony's Gran
> Turismo. Anyone tried it on the PC? Is it a must-have, or a 10-day return?
I've got it for DC, and it's awful. The graphics are great, the gameplay is
excellent, but it's impossible to drive the cars. The only way I've found
to win is to create hugely powerful cars and only accelerate in a straight
line. I only do the drag racing tacks now - too much effort to do anything
else.
Andy
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:15:43 -0000, "Andy Laurence"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>hugely powerful cars and only accelerate in a straight
>line.
>
>Andy
this sounds like me in GPL since I disabled all the assists :-(
--
Spadge Fromley
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and in my belly it will go ...''
> I have the DC version. I find it vastly inferior to the PS GT series.Queries
> to this ng similar to yours re: the PC version have resulted in uniformly
> negative replies. If I recall, at least one who ignored and boughtreturned it
> immediately. Don't bother.
Out of curiosity, what's better about Gran Turismo? I have Sega GT and Gran
Turismo 2 with Bleemcast and I find both of them equally good/bad (not sure
why I bought them..) Please don't say that Gran T has realistic handling!
On 20/11/2001 13:38, in article 9tdiqi$1s7hc$[email hidden],
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what's better about Gran Turismo? I have Sega GT and Gran
> Turismo 2 with Bleemcast and I find both of them equally good/bad (not sure
> why I bought them..) Please don't say that Gran T has realistic handling!
GT has consistent and interesting physics models. You can feel the
difference cornering when the weight is thrown over the front wheels and
when its not. You can feed the power in gently to give controllable
oversteer. It may not be totally realistic enough for you, but it's
consistent and damned good fun.
Also, BLEEM doesn't have the PSX controllers. Hang on, you said 'bleemcast'
and not just 'bleem'. Are you sure you're talking about the PlayStation game
Gran Tourismo 2? :-)
--
Jared Earle - Nightfall Games - http://nightfall.co.uk
"There is no SPORK"
On 20/11/2001 16:11, in article B8203142.CE1%[email hidden], "Jared
''Danger'' Earle" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> GT has consistent and interesting physics models.
I am talking about Gran Tourismo here, not Sega GT. :-)
--
Jared Earle - Nightfall Games - http://nightfall.co.uk
"There is no SPORK"
> > Out of curiosity, what's better about Gran Turismo? I have Sega GT andGran
> > Turismo 2 with Bleemcast and I find both of them equally good/bad (notsure
> > why I bought them..) Please don't say that Gran T has realistichandling!
'bleemcast'
> and not just 'bleem'. Are you sure you're talking about the PlayStationgame
> Gran Tourismo 2? :-)
Bleemcast is a Playstation emulator for the Dreamcast.
Andy
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> > GT has consistent and interesting physics models. You can feel the > difference cornering when the weight is thrown over the front wheels and > when its not. You can feed the power in gently to give controllable > oversteer. It may not be totally realistic enough for you, but it's > consistent and damned good fun. > > Also, BLEEM doesn't have the PSX controllers. Hang on, you said> >hugely powerful cars and only accelerate in a straight
> >line.
>
> this sounds like me in GPL since I disabled all the assists :-(
At least GPL is consistent. Sega GT goes from understeer to snap oversteer
and is completely uncontrollable. I've spent hours on it, and have no more
ability to control it than at the start!
Andy
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>Out of curiosity, what's better about Gran Turismo? I have Sega GT and Gran
>Turismo 2 with Bleemcast and I find both of them equally good/bad (not sure
>why I bought them..)
Okay, as background, I'm mostly a PC simmer. I bought a PSX strictly for GT
(then GT2), and a cheap DC for F355, secondarily for Sega GT.
My main beefs with SGT have been posted here. They are:
Horrid control - This is far and away my main issue. While analog, it seems
near digital with the stock DC controller. Non-stop overshoot on each steering
motion, just like pilot induced oscillation (PIO) in planes. This may be due
to the mediocre controller, but note I have mastered its use in F355 and TD:Le
Mans. It isn't worth playing solely due to this.
Poor track design. There is little interesting about these tracks. Too wide,
turns are not connected in any challenging manner. Not realistic
(cobblestones? Concrete walls perpendicular to your line of travel?).
Uninspired graphics. Yes the resolution and polygon count shames GT2. Hard to
describe, but the overall effect is of cars made of clay. The color schemes
are partly to fault. They are generic and are very flat and dull. To me, the
Bleemcast'd GT2 cars look a lot more like the real ones, jaggies and polgyon
count be damned.
GT2 certainly has its faults which I've also harped on before. Read Randy
Magruder's excellent reviews at the www.digitalsportspage.com. Basically, the
AI isn't. Catch-up needs to be disabled. And damage needs to be incorporated
to avoid the bumper-car racing. Quite possibly, all of these are present in
SGT too. But if I can't control it, I won't play long enough to verify.
>Please don't say that Gran T has realistic handling!
Okay, I won't :-)
> At least GPL is consistent. Sega GT goes from understeer to snapoversteer
> and is completely uncontrollable. I've spent hours on it, and have nomore
> ability to control it than at the start!
Can't say I've had any problems with it - the handling is crap, but I don't
find it very difficult. After playing and finishing Vanishing Point, all
racing games seem 10 times easier... ; )
