Best racers on N64?

Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the Nintendo 64... thanks! Andrew

"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the > Nintendo 64... > > thanks! Ummm.................... Next question.

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> Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the > Nintendo 64... > > thanks! > > Andrew >

Does N4, GPL, or RT even run on N64? Sounds like you may have the wrong newsgroup.

Nope, don't think so. rec.autos.simulators.... hmmmm.... no mention of a platform as far as I can tell. Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe *you* have the wrong newsgroup, eh? I can play those on my PC any time I want to. SimRacer wrote:

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> andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the > > Nintendo 64... > > > > thanks! > > > > Andrew > > > > Does N4, GPL, or RT even run on N64? > > Sounds like you may have the wrong newsgroup.

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe *you*have > the wrong newsgroup, eh? From the r.a.s. charter : ================= Welcome to rec.autos.simulators. This is an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on which the simulations are supported. This includes simulations which have a competitive component (racing simulations) and those which do not. Arcade racing simulators, which give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup, whilst discussion of Microprose's Formula 1 Grand Prix and Papyrus's IndyCar Racing would be appropriate. (From the original charter of r.a.s. -- [email hidden]) ================ It's just that all N64 racing games (yeah including the really bad Super Mario Kart 64 which is so much inferior to it's SNES counterpart) are arcade-style. All of them. It's not our role to judge what is the best "Arcade racing simulator", because for us any title that is an "Arcade racing simulator" is inferior to the worst of "Realistic computer simulation". It would be better of you to ask in another newsgroup (ex : rec.games.video.nintendo or alt.games.video.nintendo-64) on how they rate their own "Arcade racing simulations" because we just ignore them, it's not what we want. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the > Nintendo 64... >Was Micro-Machines released on the N64 ? That was a class game

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,10867,2544404,00.html http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/3535.html Your lectures are as tiresome as ever, you pompous ignorant bore. I asked here because I expected there would be more serious and accurate replies, yours notwithstanding. Quite frankly I expected more here. Naturally I also expect the closedminded uniformed responses I'll undoubtedly receive. I have plenty of sims on my PC. I'm looking to expand my horizons; if you don't want to, that's your problem. I'll live without your precious guidance, and whatever flames this completely on-topic post brings. Change the charter or start some other newsgroups, like it's been suggested here for years, whiner. Now save yourself some grief and killfile me if it hurts your neck too much while tilting your head back to look down your nose. ymenard wrote:

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> >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe *you* > have > > the wrong newsgroup, eh? > > From the r.a.s. charter : > ================= > Welcome to rec.autos.simulators. This is an unmoderated newsgroup for > discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles, > irrespective of the platforms on which the simulations are supported. > This includes simulations which have a competitive component (racing > simulations) and those which do not. Arcade racing simulators, which > give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism > of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup, > whilst discussion of Microprose's Formula 1 Grand Prix and Papyrus's > IndyCar Racing would be appropriate. (From the original charter of > r.a.s. -- [email hidden]) > ================ > > It's just that all N64 racing games (yeah including the really bad Super > Mario Kart 64 which is so much inferior to it's SNES counterpart) are > arcade-style. All of them. It's not our role to judge what is the best > "Arcade racing simulator", because for us any title that is an "Arcade > racing simulator" is inferior to the worst of "Realistic computer > simulation". > > It would be better of you to ask in another newsgroup (ex : > rec.games.video.nintendo or alt.games.video.nintendo-64) on how they rate > their own "Arcade racing simulations" because we just ignore them, it's not > what we want. > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > Your lectures are as tiresome as ever, you pompous ignorant bore. LOL what the heck do you want us to answer you? I wrote that because of the charter, the nature of this newsgroup is people who discuss racing simulations that model realistic environments. There is no title on the N64 console that model realistic environments. (yes, even F1 WGP just make some deja search about it in this NG it's just an arcade sim like the old F1 series for the PSX) So gee, I even helped you and pushed you towards newsgroups that would answer you a much better way then here. What do you want more? > I have plenty of sims on my PC. I'm looking to expand my horizons; if you > don't want to, that's your problem. I'll live without your preciousguidance, > and whatever flames this completely on-topic post brings. And we bloody answered you! If you want racing simulations, don't go towards the N64 because there is none that are worth it. Hello? McFly? It's not like I flamed you, au contraire. > Change the charter or start some other newsgroups, like it's beensuggested > here for years, whiner. Hmmm, the charter is perfect as it is now and for the past years. "it's been suggested here for years"" LOL stop lying like that, it never happened. Why did you just wrote that? You should YOURSELF change it if you don't like it. LOL > Now save yourself some grief and killfile me if it hurts your neck toomuch > while tilting your head back to look down your nose. Why would I do self-censorship? Start making sense.. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Andrew we are a snobbish lot...with the exception of ThomJ we tend to look down upon those who drive with their thumbs....Sorry...but that's the way we are...while you most likely would get a good and honest opinion from users here IF they had N64's I'd be willing to bet the majority of active ras posters do not. Good luck in your search. dave henrie "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,10867,2544404,00.html > > http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/3535.html > > Your lectures are as tiresome as ever, you pompous ignorant bore. > > I asked here because I expected there would be more serious and accurate > replies, yours notwithstanding. Quite frankly I expected more here.

Naturally > I also expect the closedminded uniformed responses I'll undoubtedlyreceive. > > I have plenty of sims on my PC. I'm looking to expand my horizons; if you > don't want to, that's your problem. I'll live without your preciousguidance, > and whatever flames this completely on-topic post brings. > > Change the charter or start some other newsgroups, like it's beensuggested > here for years, whiner. > > Now save yourself some grief and killfile me if it hurts your neck toomuch

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> while tilting your head back to look down your nose. > > > > ymenard wrote: > > > >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe

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> > have > > > the wrong newsgroup, eh? > > > > From the r.a.s. charter : > > ================= > > Welcome to rec.autos.simulators. This is an unmoderated newsgroup for > > discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles, > > irrespective of the platforms on which the simulations are supported. > > This includes simulations which have a competitive component (racing > > simulations) and those which do not. Arcade racing simulators, which > > give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism > > of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup, > > whilst discussion of Microprose's Formula 1 Grand Prix and Papyrus's > > IndyCar Racing would be appropriate. (From the original charter of > > r.a.s. -- [email hidden]) > > ================ > > > > It's just that all N64 racing games (yeah including the really bad Super > > Mario Kart 64 which is so much inferior to it's SNES counterpart) are > > arcade-style. All of them. It's not our role to judge what is the best > > "Arcade racing simulator", because for us any title that is an "Arcade > > racing simulator" is inferior to the worst of "Realistic computer > > simulation". > > > > It would be better of you to ask in another newsgroup (ex : > > rec.games.video.nintendo or alt.games.video.nintendo-64) on how they

rate > > their own "Arcade racing simulations" because we just ignore them, it'snot

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> > what we want. > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > > Corporation - helping America into the New World... >

I could have predicted someone would suggest thumb-steering. You assume to much. Dave Henrie wrote:

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> Andrew we are a snobbish lot...with the exception of ThomJ we tend to look > down upon those who drive with their thumbs....Sorry...but that's the way we > are...while you most likely would get a good and honest opinion from users > here IF they had N64's I'd be willing to bet the majority of active ras > posters do not. > Good luck in your search. > dave henrie > "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,10867,2544404,00.html > > > > http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/3535.html > > > > Your lectures are as tiresome as ever, you pompous ignorant bore. > > > > I asked here because I expected there would be more serious and accurate > > replies, yours notwithstanding. Quite frankly I expected more here. > Naturally > > I also expect the closedminded uniformed responses I'll undoubtedly > receive. > > > > I have plenty of sims on my PC. I'm looking to expand my horizons; if you > > don't want to, that's your problem. I'll live without your precious > guidance, > > and whatever flames this completely on-topic post brings. > > > > Change the charter or start some other newsgroups, like it's been > suggested > > here for years, whiner. > > > > Now save yourself some grief and killfile me if it hurts your neck too > much > > while tilting your head back to look down your nose. > > > > > > > > ymenard wrote: > > > > > >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe > *you* > > > have > > > > the wrong newsgroup, eh? > > > > > > From the r.a.s. charter : > > > ================= > > > Welcome to rec.autos.simulators. This is an unmoderated newsgroup for > > > discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles, > > > irrespective of the platforms on which the simulations are supported. > > > This includes simulations which have a competitive component (racing > > > simulations) and those which do not. Arcade racing simulators, which > > > give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism > > > > of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup, > > > whilst discussion of Microprose's Formula 1 Grand Prix and Papyrus's > > > IndyCar Racing would be appropriate. (From the original charter of > > > r.a.s. -- [email hidden]) > > > ================ > > > > > > It's just that all N64 racing games (yeah including the really bad Super > > > Mario Kart 64 which is so much inferior to it's SNES counterpart) are > > > arcade-style. All of them. It's not our role to judge what is the best > > > "Arcade racing simulator", because for us any title that is an "Arcade > > > racing simulator" is inferior to the worst of "Realistic computer > > > simulation". > > > > > > It would be better of you to ask in another newsgroup (ex : > > > rec.games.video.nintendo or alt.games.video.nintendo-64) on how they > rate > > > their own "Arcade racing simulations" because we just ignore them, it's > not > > > what we want. > > > > > > -- > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > > > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > I could have predicted someone would suggest thumb-steering. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=N64&hl=en&meta=group%3Drec.autos.simulator s -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenard wrote: > >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Your lectures are as tiresome as ever, you pompous ignorant bore. > > LOL what the heck do you want us to answer you? I wrote that because of the > charter, the nature of this newsgroup is people who discuss racing > simulations that model realistic environments. Which is why I asked here. > There is no title on the N64 > console that model realistic environments. (yes, even F1 WGP just make some > deja search about it in this NG it's just an arcade sim like the old F1 > series for the PSX) Why do you think I posted the links? Or did you ignore them? > So gee, I even helped you and pushed you towards newsgroups that would > answer you a much better way then here. What do you want more? How do you know I didn't? Assume, assume, assume.

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> > I have plenty of sims on my PC. I'm looking to expand my horizons; if you > > don't want to, that's your problem. I'll live without your precious > guidance, > > and whatever flames this completely on-topic post brings. > > And we bloody answered you! If you want racing simulations, don't go > towards the N64 because there is none that are worth it. Hello? McFly? > It's not like I flamed you, au contraire.

You have already disqualified yourself to answer accurately.

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> > Change the charter or start some other newsgroups, like it's been > suggested > > here for years, whiner. > > Hmmm, the charter is perfect as it is now and for the past years. "it's > been suggested here for years"" LOL stop lying like that, it never > happened. Why did you just wrote that? You should YOURSELF change it if > you don't like it. LOL

Lying? You can insult the intelligence of all the people who haven't read this group as long as I have. Your silly accusation of lying doesn't work on me or anyone else who has also read this group for years. I suppose you can honestly say nobody has ever suggested a GPL group? You're only kidding yourself if that's what you believe, or expect others to. > > Now save yourself some grief and killfile me if it hurts your neck too > much > > while tilting your head back to look down your nose. > > Why would I do self-censorship? Start making sense.. Uh, I said killfile *me*. Obviously a language barrier thing. Fran�ois, your response was unexpectedly civil. That said, your closed-mindedness would be stunning if it weren't for the many people I encounter unwilling to consider anything but their own opinion, and more than willing to put words in the mouths of others and issue silly statements such as >"because for us any title that is an "Arcade racing simulator" is inferior tothe worst of "Realistic computer simulation" < are quite useless. The reason I asked in this group was because I could get the perspective of people who know the difference between sims and strictly arcade games; I own F-1 World Championship and it is certainly not an arcade game. And I do not steer with my thumbs, as Dave Henrie assumed. "Arcade racing simulators, which give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup" I strongly suggest you go back and read the remainder of the portion of the charter you posted. Especially the "irrespective of platform" part. Your broad-stroke approach suggesting there are only arcade-style racers on the N64 (and Playstation, apparently) is uninformed.

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No, really. Don't bother - I'm laps ahead of you. Your insulting nature would be humorous if it weren't so tiresome. ymenard wrote:

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> >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I could have predicted someone would suggest thumb-steering. > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=N64&hl=en&meta=group%3Drec.autos.simulator > s > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

F1 World Grand Prix and F1 World Grand Prix 2 aren't bad at all the control is a bit dificult with the thum stick but I think they would feel very good with a wheel, and the graphics were by far the best for an F1 sim in their day. Alex "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the > Nintendo 64... > > thanks! > > Andrew >

I own F1 WGP and a wheel and it's a pretty tough one. I didn't know there was a sequel, though, if that's what you mean - I'll do a search. Thanks! Alex Cameron wrote:

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> F1 World Grand Prix and F1 World Grand Prix 2 aren't bad at all the control > is a bit dificult with the thum stick but I think they would feel very good > with a wheel, and the graphics were by far the best for an F1 sim in their > day. > > Alex > > "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Just wondering what your opinions might be for the best racers on the > > Nintendo 64... > > > > thanks! > > > > Andrew > >

Well I'm glad someone answered you without giving you a bunch of crap. It shows that all of us are not a bunch of uptight A-holes that would get a fart caught crosswise. MadDAWG

lol! Never heard that one before... MadDAWG wrote: > Well I'm glad someone answered you without giving you a bunch of crap. It > shows that all of us are not a bunch of uptight A-holes that would get a > fart caught crosswise. > > MadDAWG

"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > I'm laps ahead of you. Ohhh oh ahhhh THOU ARE MY GOD!!! THOU SHALL BE WOR"SHIPPED" BY ALL -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > Which is why I asked here. Which is why we answered you. > Why do you think I posted the links? Or did you ignore them? Ohhh two links, about poor racing games. BF whoop. > I suppose you can honestly say nobody has ever suggested a GPL group?You're > only kidding yourself if that's what you believe, or expect others to. Baaaahawahaha sure go ahead create r.a.s.gpl if you want. The only people who suggested that are ignorant people who don't know a thing about how the Usenet works. > Uh, I said killfile *me*. Obviously a language barrier thing. Yep, I have no need to do self-censorship. > Fran�ois, your response was unexpectedly civil. LOL how can my response be MORE civil then simply stating that because of the NG charter, all N64 games don't apply to this newsgroup and it would be better for you to ask elsewhere, because we just aren't qualify to rate arcade games, even more arcade games on the N64 console. <snip bunch of boring stuff> > Your broad-stroke approach suggesting there are only arcade-style racerson the > N64 (and Playstation, apparently) is uninformed. No, it's my opinion and I will still continue to say that all N64 racing games are arcade-oriented. Why did you just wrote the PSX? Don't put words in my mouth. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Geez, at least learn how to speak English a little better. I have no idea what you're getting at... wor"shipped" - huh? Sounds like you're losing your nerves. ymenard wrote: > THOU SHALL BE WOR"SHIPPED" BY ALL

ymenard wrote: > >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Which is why I asked here. > > Which is why we answered you. Not "we", "you". Obviously you have no problem speaking for others. > > Why do you think I posted the links? Or did you ignore them? > > Ohhh two links, about poor racing games. BF whoop. I see - you ignored them.

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> > I suppose you can honestly say nobody has ever suggested a GPL group? > You're > > only kidding yourself if that's what you believe, or expect others to. > > Baaaahawahaha sure go ahead create r.a.s.gpl if you want. The only people > who suggested that are ignorant people who don't know a thing about how the > Usenet works.

So then it's you who lied. See? It's hard to fight logic. > > Uh, I said killfile *me*. Obviously a language barrier thing. > > Yep, I have no need to do self-censorship. You still don't understand. > > Fran�ois, your response was unexpectedly civil. > > LOL how can my response be MORE civil then simply stating that because of > the NG charter, all N64 games don't apply to this newsgroup and it would be > better for you to ask elsewhere, because we just aren't qualify to rate > arcade games, even more arcade games on the N64 console. Not only do you not understand what "unexpectedly" means, you seem to be ignoring the "regardless of platform" part of the charter. Hey, whatever. You don't fool me.

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> > Your broad-stroke approach suggesting there are only arcade-style racers > on the > > N64 (and Playstation, apparently) is uninformed. > > No, it's my opinion and I will still continue to say that all N64 racing > games are arcade-oriented. Why did you just wrote the PSX? Don't put words > in my mouth.

Right. And your opinion is uniformed. I don't know what you mean when you say "Why did you just wrote the PSX?". And why pretend I'm putting words in your mouth when you were the one to say "There is no title on the N64 console that model realistic environments." ? Funny, how you're willing to put words in others' mouths, and yet try to pretend it's the opposite. You don't fool me.

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> > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > wor"shipped" - huh? It's a play of words. Worshipping and "shipping" you out. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > Not "we", "you". Obviously you have no problem speaking for others. Yes, others did answer you. > I see - you ignored them. No, they are old and arcade-oriented. I mean we were talking about them on r.a.s. in 1997-98!!! > > > Uh, I said killfile *me*. Obviously a language barrier thing. > > Yep, I have no need to do self-censorship. > You still don't understand. No, I sure do know what I'm talking about. I won't censor my ownself and kill-file so I personally don't see what others say. I've never done that, and certainly won't do that for you. > > > Your broad-stroke approach suggesting there are only arcade-styleracers > > on the > > > N64 (and Playstation, apparently) is uninformed. > > > > No, it's my opinion and I will still continue to say that all N64 racing > > games are arcade-oriented. Why did you just wrote the PSX? Don't putwords > > in my mouth. > > Right. And your opinion is uniformed. I don't know what you mean when yousay > "Why did you just wrote the PSX?". You blattently put words in my mouth stating that "apparently", I suggest there are only arcade-style racers on the PSX. That's false, I never stated that, I simply state that *ALL* N64 racing games are either old, arcade-oriented or simply plain bad and pass�. Why did you include a reference to the playstation? Don't put words in my mouth. This is just stupid, but I'm having fun manipulating this thread. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Nope, don't think so. > > rec.autos.simulators.... hmmmm.... no mention of a platform as far as Ican > tell. > > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe *you*have > the wrong newsgroup, eh? > Nope, I don't think so troll, the name is rec.auto.SIMULATORS, last time I checked, there was no such thing as a SIMULATOR for any console POS. Get a life before mommy gets home and tells you to get off your toy N64.

Old - like GPL, for example? You just keep making yourself look stupid. I won't stop you. ymenard wrote:

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> >"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Not "we", "you". Obviously you have no problem speaking for others. > > Yes, others did answer you. > > > I see - you ignored them. > > No, they are old and arcade-oriented. I mean we were talking about them on > r.a.s. in 1997-98!!! > > > > > Uh, I said killfile *me*. Obviously a language barrier thing. > > > Yep, I have no need to do self-censorship. > > You still don't understand. > > No, I sure do know what I'm talking about. I won't censor my ownself and > kill-file so I personally don't see what others say. I've never done that, > and certainly won't do that for you. > > > > > Your broad-stroke approach suggesting there are only arcade-style > racers > > > on the > > > > N64 (and Playstation, apparently) is uninformed. > > > > > > No, it's my opinion and I will still continue to say that all N64 racing > > > games are arcade-oriented. Why did you just wrote the PSX? Don't put > words > > > in my mouth. > > > > Right. And your opinion is uniformed. I don't know what you mean when you > say > > "Why did you just wrote the PSX?". > > You blattently put words in my mouth stating that "apparently", I suggest > there are only arcade-style racers on the PSX. That's false, I never stated > that, I simply state that *ALL* N64 racing games are either old, > arcade-oriented or simply plain bad and pass�. Why did you include a > reference to the playstation? Don't put words in my mouth. > > This is just stupid, but I'm having fun manipulating this thread. > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > Old - like GPL, for example? GPL itself is old (but much younger then any of those 2 games you linked), but the community is still racing it, and still is modified to look modern and fresh. In fact, there's more fingers on my left arm then racing sims that look as fresh as GPL currently. The N64's racing games are all outdated, and arcade-oriented. All of them. You wanted an answer? You sure got it, like I said what did you expect? That we would start praising those arcade games? Anyway, why did you ask the question in the first place when you obviously knew there weren't any?Thanks also for skipping my whole arguments in this previous post, it's probably because you have nothing to retaliate against. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

You're so smart and perceptive. Can I be just like you? SimRacer wrote:

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> andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Nope, don't think so. > > > > rec.autos.simulators.... hmmmm.... no mention of a platform as far as I > can > > tell. > > > > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe *you* > have > > the wrong newsgroup, eh? > > > > Nope, I don't think so troll, the name is rec.auto.SIMULATORS, last time I > checked, there was no such thing as a SIMULATOR for any console POS. Get a > life before mommy gets home and tells you to get off your toy N64.

Sorry, I've lost the beginningof this thread, but thought it may be worth posting the relevant parts of the FAQ which used to be posted here regularly. Start quote ------ Welcome to rec.autos.simulators. This is an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on which the simulations are supported. This includes simulations which have a competitive component (racing simulations) and those which do not. Arcade racing simulators, which give an overhead perspective and which do not attempt to provide realism of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate in this newsgroup, whilst discussion of Microprose's Formula 1 Grand Prix and Papyrus's IndyCar Racing would be appropriate. (From the original charter of r.a.s. -- [email hidden]) [Editor: While the original charter states that "Arcade racing simulators" should not be discussed in r.a.s., the general consesus is that they are welcome to participate in r.a.s.] ------ end quote. So it would seem that andrew is quite welcome to post about any racer he sees fit. Whether anyone here could help him or not I can't say, but he's quite entitled to ask. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1_UK7.3595$[email hidden]... > > andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Nope, don't think so. > > > > rec.autos.simulators.... hmmmm.... no mention of a platform as far as I > can > > tell. > > > > Funny, too: no mention of those three in the newsgroup name. Maybe *you* > have > > the wrong newsgroup, eh? > > > > Nope, I don't think so troll, the name is rec.auto.SIMULATORS, last time I > checked, there was no such thing as a SIMULATOR for any console POS. Get a > life before mommy gets home and tells you to get off your toy N64. > >

>"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote > So it would seem that andrew is quite welcome to post about any racer he > sees fit. Whether anyone here could help him or not I can't say, but he's > quite entitled to ask. That's exactly what I said (the editor's notice is not officially part of the charter, it's just his opinion). There's better places to help him (I pointed him to those newsgroups) because the nature of this NG is not to rate "Arcade racing simulators" as it denies the point of this NG. We research realism. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

The best racing game by far for the N64 is a little beauty called World Driver Champion from Midway and Boss Game Studios. Nothing else even comes close for solid driving feel. Here's a review link http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/10079.html "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> lol! > > Never heard that one before... > > MadDAWG wrote: > > > Well I'm glad someone answered you without giving you a bunch of crap.

It > > shows that all of us are not a bunch of uptight A-holes that would get a > > fart caught crosswise. > > > > MadDAWG >

thanks - actually, that's what they said in the Nintendo group too, after some prying ;) Moogman wrote:

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> The best racing game by far for the N64 is a little beauty called World > Driver Champion from Midway and Boss Game Studios. Nothing else even comes > close for solid driving feel. > > Here's a review link > http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/10079.html > > "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > lol! > > > > Never heard that one before... > > > > MadDAWG wrote: > > > > > Well I'm glad someone answered you without giving you a bunch of crap. > It > > > shows that all of us are not a bunch of uptight A-holes that would get a > > > fart caught crosswise. > > > > > > MadDAWG > >

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:15:32 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote >> So it would seem that andrew is quite welcome to post about any racer he >> sees fit. Whether anyone here could help him or not I can't say, but he's >> quite entitled to ask. > > > >That's exactly what I said (the editor's notice is not officially part of >the charter, it's just his opinion). There's better places to help him (I >pointed him to those newsgroups) because the nature of this NG is not to >rate "Arcade racing simulators" as it denies the point of this NG. We >research realism.

*istoff dives in* I think the chances of a person getting an opinion of the most realistic (relatively speaking) racing game on a N64 is probably higher here on R.A.S. than on a forum dedicated to the N64 arcade games which are more likely to contain people biased towards arcade style games. The fact that the N64 might or might not have a realistic game out there is probably more like to be determined *after* asking the question than by assumption. i don't have a problem with the original question. i enjoy a quick game now and then and Gran Turismo serves me well for those moments. I don't think that condemns me to having an arcade mentality. My many hours of GPL / F1RC / GP3 would say otherwise. My understanding of the original question was not to find a simulator like GPL for the N64, but merely to point out one that stood up above the rest of the crowd and was at least approaching the realism of PC Sims. If one exists, lets point Andrew to it and maybe someone else could benefit from the opinion. It could be used as a trainer for my 6 year old daughter until she can begin to the skills necessary to challenge her dad at the Ring :) For Andrew's sake, I hope such a sim exists. Regards all, istoff

Thanks istoff. I think we're all cooled off now... istoff wrote:

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> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:15:32 -0500, "ymenard" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> So it would seem that andrew is quite welcome to post about any racer he > >> sees fit. Whether anyone here could help him or not I can't say, but he's > >> quite entitled to ask. > > > > > > > >That's exactly what I said (the editor's notice is not officially part of > >the charter, it's just his opinion). There's better places to help him (I > >pointed him to those newsgroups) because the nature of this NG is not to > >rate "Arcade racing simulators" as it denies the point of this NG. We > >research realism. > > *istoff dives in* > > I think the chances of a person getting an opinion of the most > realistic (relatively speaking) racing game on a N64 is probably > higher here on R.A.S. than on a forum dedicated to the N64 arcade > games which are more likely to contain people biased towards arcade > style games. The fact that the N64 might or might not have a > realistic game out there is probably more like to be determined > *after* asking the question than by assumption. > > i don't have a problem with the original question. i enjoy a quick > game now and then and Gran Turismo serves me well for those moments. > I don't think that condemns me to having an arcade mentality. My many > hours of GPL / F1RC / GP3 would say otherwise. > > My understanding of the original question was not to find a simulator > like GPL for the N64, but merely to point out one that stood up above > the rest of the crowd and was at least approaching the realism of PC > Sims. If one exists, lets point Andrew to it and maybe someone else > could benefit from the opinion. It could be used as a trainer for my > 6 year old daughter until she can begin to the skills necessary to > challenge her dad at the Ring :) For Andrew's sake, I hope such a sim > exists. > > Regards all, > istoff

>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote > I think we're all cooled off now... Nah, let's FIGHT ;-D Oh btw, Super Mario Kart on the SNES is still one of the most entertaining driving games you can ever have fun with ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:48:50 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>"andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote >> I think we're all cooled off now... > > >Nah, let's FIGHT ;-D > > >Oh btw, Super Mario Kart on the SNES is still one of the most entertaining >driving games you can ever have fun with ;)

no it isn't. i was listening to monty python's 'argument' sketch this morning, so i'm in the mood for a fight. (just kidding about Super Mario Kart) For fun, my fave 8 & 16 bit racing (arcade or otherwise) are (in no order) 1 Kikstart (C64) 2 Pitstop 2 (C64) 3 Stunt Car Racer (Amiga) 4 Trailblazer (C64) 5 Lotus (Amiga) 6 Racing Destruction Set (C64) - I'd kill for a pc version. 7 Super Hang On (Amiga) 8 RVF Honda (Amiga) 9 Test Drive 2 (Amiga) 10 4D Stunts (Amiga) 11 Indy 500 (Amiga) I guess I missed quite a few, but I don't really consider any of the pc games before Indy 500 were better than the amiga or c64 versions. Just my opinion, of course. Regards all, istoff

Hey istoff - istoff wrote: > i was listening to monty python's 'argument' sketch this morning, so > i'm in the mood for a fight. No, you weren't. ;)

We have a double cd of Monty Python's greatest hits. It was great until the local kids listened to it...suddenly I had several 10 year olds marching through my house and singing... "Sit on my face, and tell me that you love me...." The neighborhood parents were less than pleased. :) dave henrie "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hey istoff - > > istoff wrote: > > > i was listening to monty python's 'argument' sketch this morning, so > > i'm in the mood for a fight. > > No, you weren't. > > ;) >

Dave Henrie wrote: > > We have a double cd of Monty Python's greatest hits. It was great until > the local kids listened to it...suddenly I had several 10 year olds marching > through my house and singing... > "Sit on my face, and tell me that you love me...." > The neighborhood parents were less than pleased. :) I would have paid good money to see the neighborhood parents reactions actually....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

My friend's father confiscated my friend's MP albums because of this song... What his father didn't realize was that he had switched out the vinyl for other older records of his father's in anticipation... He found out anyway. Oh well. Dave Henrie wrote:

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> We have a double cd of Monty Python's greatest hits. It was great until > the local kids listened to it...suddenly I had several 10 year olds marching > through my house and singing... > "Sit on my face, and tell me that you love me...." > The neighborhood parents were less than pleased. :) > dave henrie > "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Hey istoff - > > > > istoff wrote: > > > > > i was listening to monty python's 'argument' sketch this morning, so > > > i'm in the mood for a fight. > > > > No, you weren't. > > > > ;) > >

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:40:48 GMT, andrew <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>My friend's father confiscated my friend's MP albums because of this song... > >What his father didn't realize was that he had switched out the vinyl for other >older records of his father's in anticipation... > >He found out anyway. Oh well. > >Dave Henrie wrote:

in true MP style, i've decided to tape the broadcast of our local national lottery numbers show tomorrow night. i will hide the tape. buy a ticket next week with the winning numbers of this week. next week saturday, i'm going to sneak the tape into the show and watch the lottery results with my wife. of course, i'll pretend to be bored while they spin the balls. nah. i can't. its just too cruel... :) Regards all, istoff

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> 1 Kikstart (C64) > 2 Pitstop 2 (C64) > 3 Stunt Car Racer (Amiga) > 4 Trailblazer (C64) > 5 Lotus (Amiga) > 6 Racing Destruction Set (C64) - I'd kill for a pc version. > 7 Super Hang On (Amiga) > 8 RVF Honda (Amiga) > 9 Test Drive 2 (Amiga) > 10 4D Stunts (Amiga) > 11 Indy 500 (Amiga) > > I guess I missed quite a few, but I don't really consider any of the > pc games before Indy 500 were better than the amiga or c64 versions. > > Just my opinion, of course.

Racing Destruction Set!! Ditto that...i loved that game! That would be cool to see a PC version. -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com

In article <2EzL7.800$[email hidden]>, "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> writes: >Racing Destruction Set!! Ditto that...i loved that game! That would be cool >to see a PC version. Racing Destruction? T1 of any online race...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <aRAK7.17066$[email hidden]>, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>It's just that all N64 racing games (yeah including the really bad Super >Mario Kart 64 which is so much inferior to it's SNES counterpart) are >arcade-style. All of them. It's not our role to judge what is the best >"Arcade racing simulator", because for us any title that is an "Arcade >racing simulator" is inferior to the worst of "Realistic computer >simulation". >

SOS1937???<g> > >It would be better of you to ask in another newsgroup (ex : >rec.games.video.nintendo or alt.games.video.nintendo-64) on how they rate >their own "Arcade racing simulations" because we just ignore them, it's not >what we want. > Well, there ARE a lot of people here who play console games. So, people still discuss them... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.