GPL Stutter

Hi all - long time no post :-) I recently upgraded to a new system (P4 1.7, 256Mb, Geforce2, Win XP) and now I'm having trouble with virtually all my games. The problem I have with GPL is stutter in replays and occasionally in driving mode as well. Replays are basically unwatchable because they run fine in short bursts but get major stutter every few seconds. If something like a crash happens it's almost like watching it at 3-4fps. In the car itself things are fine, although it doesn't seem to run quite as smoothly with the GPLEA car patches applied. I would have thought my new machine would be able to handle them :-) I've used the GPL 1.2 patch, D3D patch and CPU fix, got the latest drivers and double-checked my core.ini. Has anyone else had a problem like this, & are there any known fixes? -- Cheers! Graeme Nash -- Posted from [212.117.224.50] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:30:35 +0000 (UTC), "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi all - long time no post :-) > >I recently upgraded to a new system (P4 1.7, 256Mb, Geforce2, Win XP) and now >I'm having trouble with virtually all my games. > >The problem I have with GPL is stutter in replays and occasionally in driving >mode as well. Replays are basically unwatchable because they run fine in short >bursts but get major stutter every few seconds. If something like a crash >happens it's almost like watching it at 3-4fps. > >In the car itself things are fine, although it doesn't seem to run quite as >smoothly with the GPLEA car patches applied. I would have thought my new >machine would be able to handle them :-) > >I've used the GPL 1.2 patch, D3D patch and CPU fix, got the latest drivers and >double-checked my core.ini. Has anyone else had a problem like this, & are >there any known fixes?

Lately I had some stutters too, allthough not as bad as you mention - yesterday Speedfreak told me he solved his stuttering problem by installing Dx8.1. I will try this myself tonight, let you know if it works. Andre

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>-- >Cheers! >Graeme Nash > > >-- >Posted from [212.117.224.50] >via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

> Lately I had some stutters too, allthough not as bad as you mention - > yesterday Speedfreak told me he solved his stuttering problem by > installing Dx8.1. I will try this myself tonight, let you know if it > works. Thanks Andre, I'll give that a try too! -- Cheers! Graeme Nahs

On 23 Nov 2001 01:07:18 -0800, [email hidden] (Graeme Nash) wrote: >> Lately I had some stutters too, allthough not as bad as you mention - >> yesterday Speedfreak told me he solved his stuttering problem by >> installing Dx8.1. I will try this myself tonight, let you know if it >> works. > >Thanks Andre, I'll give that a try too! I get a stutter in GPL on the first lap. I can fix it by turning off hardware acceleration for my sound card. Dx8.1 has improved things though - it's hardly noticeable now if I forget to turn off the acceleration before playing. (System is a Duron 800@933 with TNT2 Pro on Win98SE) Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53

Try disabling 'auto insert notification' on your CD ROM drive(s) it's in the 'settings' for your cd rom in device manager, this may be causing stuttering with soundblaster live cards 'looking' for the cdrom every few seconds. ( something I read ) .jv "Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 23 Nov 2001 01:07:18 -0800, [email hidden] (Graeme > Nash) wrote: > > >> Lately I had some stutters too, allthough not as bad as you mention - > >> yesterday Speedfreak told me he solved his stuttering problem by > >> installing Dx8.1. I will try this myself tonight, let you know if it > >> works. > > > >Thanks Andre, I'll give that a try too! > > I get a stutter in GPL on the first lap. I can fix it by turning off > hardware acceleration for my sound card. > > Dx8.1 has improved things though - it's hardly noticeable now if I > forget to turn off the acceleration before playing. > > (System is a Duron 800@933 with TNT2 Pro on Win98SE) > > Ian > -- > Ian Riches > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:45:10 -0000, "Juan Vizoso" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Try disabling 'auto insert notification' on your CD ROM drive(s) it's in >the 'settings' for your cd rom in device manager, this may be causing >stuttering with soundblaster live cards 'looking' for the cdrom every few >seconds. ( something I read ) .jv Thanks for the tip - but I don't think it will help. I already have auto insert turned off, and I don;t have a SB Live :-) (My soundcard is a TB Santa Cruz) Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53

> Thanks Andre, I'll give that a try too! Oops - I forgot Win XP has DX8.1 installed as standard. Oh well :-) I'm going to try the OpenGL patch when I get home from work, maybe that will do it. Apart from that I think it could possibly be related to sound. One of the reasons my new machine was fairly cheap is because it only came with some crappy on-board intel sound device. It does OK generally but in N4 the engine sound is completely screwed up, maybe it's having some effect in GPL too. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. I experience static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried disabling ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. > (My soundcard is a TB Santa Cruz) > > Ian > -- > Ian Riches > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:38:43 -0700, "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. I experience >static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried disabling >ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. Then try disabling direct sound acceleration. Works a treat for me. Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53

Ya I've tried that also. IF I disable it completely the sim sounds terrible a little better then halfway is an improvement but still is stutters and static is more prevalent. "Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:38:43 -0700, "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. Iexperience

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> >static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried disabling > >ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. > > Then try disabling direct sound acceleration. Works a treat for me. > > Ian > -- > Ian Riches > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53

Same configuration, absolutely ZERO problems with the TBSC. -Larry "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:03uL7.3302$[email hidden]... > My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. Iexperience

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> static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried disabling > ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. > > > > (My soundcard is a TB Santa Cruz) > > > > Ian > > -- > > Ian Riches > > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53 > >

I have the graphics stutter under XP, but no sound problems. -Larry "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:03uL7.3302$[email hidden]... > My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. Iexperience

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> static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried disabling > ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. > > > > (My soundcard is a TB Santa Cruz) > > > > Ian > > -- > > Ian Riches > > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53 > >

Curious as to what PCI slot your SC is in. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sOyL7.34654$[email hidden]...

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> Same configuration, absolutely ZERO problems with the TBSC. > > -Larry > > "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:03uL7.3302$[email hidden]... > > My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. I > experience > > static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried disabling > > ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. > > > > > > > (My soundcard is a TB Santa Cruz) > > > > > > Ian > > > -- > > > Ian Riches > > > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53 > > > > > >

Throw away your SBLife. Did the trick for me. Obviously collided with the (switched off) onboard soundchip. HTH JensSchumi On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:30:35 +0000 (UTC), "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi all - long time no post :-) > >I recently upgraded to a new system (P4 1.7, 256Mb, Geforce2, Win XP) and now >I'm having trouble with virtually all my games. > >The problem I have with GPL is stutter in replays and occasionally in driving >mode as well. Replays are basically unwatchable because they run fine in short >bursts but get major stutter every few seconds. If something like a crash >happens it's almost like watching it at 3-4fps. > >In the car itself things are fine, although it doesn't seem to run quite as >smoothly with the GPLEA car patches applied. I would have thought my new >machine would be able to handle them :-) > >I've used the GPL 1.2 patch, D3D patch and CPU fix, got the latest drivers and >double-checked my core.ini. Has anyone else had a problem like this, & are >there any known fixes? > >-- >Cheers! >Graeme Nash

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I have the same problem, but strange as may seem, the stuttering has gradually been reducing over the months. I too have a P4 1.7, 256Mb and GeForce2, though I have Win ME. I have used the same patches as you. The problem has reduced as I have installed more tracks (from the internet), and although I am not sure if the two are related I cannot think of any other reason. Regards Peter "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Throw away your SBLife. > Did the trick for me. Obviously collided with the (switched off) onboard > soundchip. > > HTH > JensSchumi > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:30:35 +0000 (UTC), "Graeme Nash" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hi all - long time no post :-) > > > >I recently upgraded to a new system (P4 1.7, 256Mb, Geforce2, Win XP) and

now > >I'm having trouble with virtually all my games. > > > >The problem I have with GPL is stutter in replays and occasionally indriving > >mode as well. Replays are basically unwatchable because they run fine inshort > >bursts but get major stutter every few seconds. If something like a crash > >happens it's almost like watching it at 3-4fps. > > > >In the car itself things are fine, although it doesn't seem to run quiteas > >smoothly with the GPLEA car patches applied. I would have thought my new > >machine would be able to handle them :-) > > > >I've used the GPL 1.2 patch, D3D patch and CPU fix, got the latestdrivers and > >double-checked my core.ini. Has anyone else had a problem like this, &are

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> >there any known fixes? > > > >-- > >Cheers! > >Graeme Nash > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Kinda breaking in? <g> JensSchumi On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:14:00 -0000, "Peter Clarke" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have the same problem, but strange as may seem, the stuttering has >gradually been reducing over the months. I too have a P4 1.7, 256Mb and >GeForce2, though I have Win ME. I have used the same patches as you. >The problem has reduced as I have installed more tracks (from the internet), >and although I am not sure if the two are related I cannot think of any >other reason. >Regards >Peter >

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Kinda breaking in? <g> JensSchumi --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

3... 3 is typically the slot free of hardware sharing on most motherboards... -Larry "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AFzL7.3336$[email hidden]...

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> Curious as to what PCI slot your SC is in. > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sOyL7.34654$[email hidden]... > > Same configuration, absolutely ZERO problems with the TBSC. > > > > -Larry > > > > "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:03uL7.3302$[email hidden]... > > > My card is also a Santa Cruz, Abit KG7 board and a athlon 1.4. I > > experience > > > static and stutter I'm using the latest drivers and also tried

disabling

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> > > ACPI putting the card on its own IRQ did not help. > > > > > > > > > > (My soundcard is a TB Santa Cruz) > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > -- > > > > Ian Riches > > > > GPL Rank +2.36 Monsters of GPL +296.53 > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Graeme, I've seen something similar under WinME. The Statemanager in WinME - who is only supposed to be running when there's zero system activity - apparently thinks when a sim is running and you only turn the wheel and use the pedals (USB here), that there's no system activity, and starts creating a restore point (saving the important system files to a safe section of your harddisk). I don't know about XP (W2K hasn't shown this behaviour so far) but maybe that's something to look for? Do you see harddisk activity when these stutters occur? If so, you may either want to disable the automatic creation of restore points, or you may kill the state manager using a process manager (like ATM or Prcview) before racing. Achim

"Peter Clarke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9u0rti$i8a$[email hidden]... > I have the same problem, but strange as may seem, the stuttering has > gradually been reducing over the months. I too have a P4 1.7, 256Mb and > GeForce2, though I have Win ME. I have used the same patches as you. > The problem has reduced as I have installed more tracks (from theinternet), > and although I am not sure if the two are related I cannot think of any > other reason. > Regards > Peter >Same with me (Thinkpad A21/256/W2K) - and that in turn seems to make it take longer to get to the first menu, which (although very unlikely, but you know how these things go) maybe something to do with it. But it still stutters a bit sometimes. ...And still locks solid about 3 laps thru a race (training/qualification's still ok though). -- Remove guts to reply