F1 2001 - weird problem

I did a clean install of Windows and then installed F1 2001 + patch. All worked ok, but yesterday I played it again, and had -major- stutter on the first lap, talking about 1 second stutters on the first lap. From lap 2 all was ok again. When I leave to the main menu and restart the race, the stuttering is back again, untill lap 2. Weird eh? I've got enough mem I think, 256mb, and before the patch I didn;t have this problem. Any ideas? P3 866 GF2 GTS det. 12.90 drivers Dx 80a (I tried 8.1 but I had problems with it) 256mb mem Andre

Andr�, someone is trying to tell you that you are not allowed to play this game ! Next time you reinstall windows and the game, all cars will be displayed upside down... Om my PC F12001 is shit too. Before and after the patch my version simply does not allow me to go back from e.g. a test session to the previous menus. But I did test the FF, and apart from as lot of rumble in my wheel I did not yet enjoy the standard settings very much (on my LWFF). So I stopped playing the game. lock

Andre Warringa wrote:

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> I did a clean install of Windows and then installed F1 2001 + patch. > All worked ok, but yesterday I played it again, and had -major- > stutter on the first lap, talking about 1 second stutters on the first > lap. From lap 2 all was ok again. > > When I leave to the main menu and restart the race, the stuttering is > back again, untill lap 2. > > Weird eh? I've got enough mem I think, 256mb, and before the patch I > didn;t have this problem. Any ideas? > > P3 866 > GF2 GTS det. 12.90 drivers > Dx 80a (I tried 8.1 but I had problems with it) > 256mb mem > > Andre >

Use 22.80 (or 21.xx) drivers. Also, check your sound drivers. I had alot of problems with GPL and dodgy sound drivers causing the 1 second stutters your talking about. All the best, Ash

21.83 drivers.....:) Morgan

The 23.10s are even better. Iain "Morgan Boof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9u53mp$osc$[email hidden]... > 21.83 drivers.....:) > > Morgan > >

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> The 23.10s are even better. > Iain > > "Morgan Boof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9u53mp$osc$[email hidden]... > >>21.83 drivers.....:) >> >>Morgan >> >> >> > >

ooooh new ones :)

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> The 23.10s are even better. > Iain >>21.83 drivers.....:) >>Morgan

ooooh new ones :)

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:46:06 +0100, "lock" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Andr�, someone is trying to tell you that you are not allowed to play this >game ! Next time you reinstall windows and the game, all cars will be >displayed upside down... I'm affraid you're right.. and I don't get it, I allways praised EA's F1CS, why would they built a security in every copy of F1 2001 so that it runs like crap on my computer? Revenge of Fluffypony perhaps? >Om my PC F12001 is shit too. Before and after the patch my version simply >does not allow me to go back from e.g. a test session to the previous menus. >But I did test the FF, and apart from as lot of rumble in my wheel I did not >yet enjoy the standard settings very much (on my LWFF). So I stopped playing >the game. Besides the 1st lap stuttering I got everything running now, including the force feedback, and it's really great. FF helps so much in feeling when the car is about to loose it, it's so much fun racing on the limit now, and so far the AI seems very good too. Only multiplayer is crap, allthough I haven't tested it after the patch, but I don't suspect it has improved much - if any. Anyway, when you change your ff settings, don't go to the player screen since it seems to reset your ff values. Make the changes (I recommend Pat Donson's ff settings he posted here a couple of days ago) the only setting I changed was that setting that shows how much grip the tires have, Pat has that on 3, I set it to 5. F1 2001 still seems a pain in the ass to get it working correctly, but once it works it's really great. Andre / PS, what is the alt code to get that ' on the e ? � � � � � � � � � it must be somewhere � � � � � � � � � � >lock > >

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:48:54 +0000, Ashley McConnell <[email hidden]> wrote: >Use 22.80 (or 21.xx) drivers. Hmm.. you know, after I had the problems with f1 2001, I tried a couple of different drivers, including the 21.xx drivers. After messing around a bit every program I tried crashed, including GPL. I now did a clean windows install and installed the 12.90 drivers which never gave me problems. Also I didn't have stutters before the patch, so I think the 12.90 should work ok with F1 2001? >Also, check your sound drivers. I had alot of problems with GPL and >dodgy sound drivers causing the 1 second stutters your talking about. Another problem. The drivers that came with my SBlive card are really old, since I bought the card as soon as it came out. So I went to www.sblive.com and tried to download the drivers.. But the folks at sblive have gone mad, they took down all the software and you must order it on a cd - which is not even ready yet. The only driver that shows up when I choose drivers for SBLive is 1 file, and from the description it was not clear to me what it's use was. I tried installing it but then I got a message 'this update is not meant for your system'. So.. where can I download the latest drivers for my SBLive card? Cheers, Andre >All the best, >Ash >

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:17:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The 23.10s are even better. >Iain Hey you were the one that recommended the 12.90 drivers to me :) So the 23.10 are better? You also have a GF2 GTS? Andre

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>"Morgan Boof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:9u53mp$osc$[email hidden]... >> 21.83 drivers.....:) >> >> Morgan >> >> > >

Andre, How did you backpedal from 8.1 to an earlier DX? I've tried various DX uninstallers & they sure don't work for me. --Steve Smith "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I did a clean install of Windows and then installed F1 2001 + patch. > All worked ok, but yesterday I played it again, and had -major- > stutter on the first lap, talking about 1 second stutters on the first > lap. From lap 2 all was ok again. > > When I leave to the main menu and restart the race, the stuttering is > back again, untill lap 2. > > Weird eh? I've got enough mem I think, 256mb, and before the patch I > didn;t have this problem. Any ideas? > > P3 866 > GF2 GTS det. 12.90 drivers > Dx 80a (I tried 8.1 but I had problems with it) > 256mb mem > > Andre

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:34:00 GMT, "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Andre, > >How did you backpedal from 8.1 to an earlier DX? I've tried various DX >uninstallers & they sure don't work for me. >--Steve Smith Oh that was easy. Make a DOS bootdisk, restart the pc with the bootdisk in it and type: deltree c:\windows Then, insert your Windows cd en install it. Ok, I had to do that because after messing around with drivers all my games froze after starting. I did try those dxuninstallers a couple of times btw, with dx6 and 7. Allways worked for me so far. I believe Dan posted a dxuninstaller for dx8 here a couple of days ago.. Andre

Stephen, use dxerad. It worked for me ! lock PS I even did it completely manually, but do not think it's easy .....

Can't find them, where are they? TIA -- Joe Marques "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BPoN7.166$[email hidden]... > The 23.10s are even better. > Iain > > "Morgan Boof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9u53mp$osc$[email hidden]... > > 21.83 drivers.....:) > > > > Morgan > > > > > >

Can't find them, where are they? TIA -- Joe Marques > The 23.10s are even better. > Iain > > 21.83 drivers.....:) > > Morgan

Andre, Have you tried http://www.americas.creative.com I managed to download the latest XP SBlive value drives from there when I failed elsewhere, so worth a shot... -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends (yeah it needs updating I know...) "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:48:54 +0000, Ashley McConnell > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Use 22.80 (or 21.xx) drivers. > > Hmm.. you know, after I had the problems with f1 2001, I tried a > couple of different drivers, including the 21.xx drivers. After > messing around a bit every program I tried crashed, including GPL. > I now did a clean windows install and installed the 12.90 drivers > which never gave me problems. Also I didn't have stutters before the > patch, so I think the 12.90 should work ok with F1 2001? > > >Also, check your sound drivers. I had alot of problems with GPL and > >dodgy sound drivers causing the 1 second stutters your talking about. > > Another problem. The drivers that came with my SBlive card are really > old, since I bought the card as soon as it came out. > So I went to www.sblive.com and tried to download the drivers.. > > But the folks at sblive have gone mad, they took down all the software > and you must order it on a cd - which is not even ready yet. > The only driver that shows up when I choose drivers for SBLive is 1 > file, and from the description it was not clear to me what it's use > was. I tried installing it but then I got a message 'this update is > not meant for your system'. > > So.. where can I download the latest drivers for my SBLive card? > > Cheers, > Andre > > > >All the best, > >Ash > > >

Andre I recommended them when I had a GF2 Ultra, and no patch. Now I've got a GF3 Ti500 and the patch is out, and 22.80s and 23.10s are perfect. I've heard that GF2s are better with the 12.90s, but I don't know. Iain "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:17:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The 23.10s are even better. > >Iain > > Hey you were the one that recommended the 12.90 drivers to me :) > So the 23.10 are better? You also have a GF2 GTS? > > Andre > > >"Morgan Boof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:9u53mp$osc$[email hidden]... > >> 21.83 drivers.....:) > >> > >> Morgan > >> > >> > > > > >

http://www.electic.com/headlines/2001/11/28/10069471492.shtml "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%7wN7.208969$[email hidden]...

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> Can't find them, where are they? > > TIA > > -- > Joe Marques > > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:BPoN7.166$[email hidden]... > > The 23.10s are even better. > > Iain > > > > "Morgan Boof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9u53mp$osc$[email hidden]... > > > 21.83 drivers.....:) > > > > > > Morgan > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> Can't find them, where are they? > TIA > -- > Joe Marques > > The 23.10s are even better. > > Iain > > > 21.83 drivers.....:) > > > Morgan

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:37:01 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Andre >I recommended them when I had a GF2 Ultra, and no patch. Now I've got a GF3 >Ti500 and the patch is out, and 22.80s and 23.10s are perfect. I've heard >that GF2s are better with the 12.90s, but I don't know. >Iain Ok thanks, I'll stick to the 12.90 drivers then. Allthough I still have to tweak, 20fps in a full grid at the start :-/ In training it's between 30-40 on Suzuka. Andre

On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:38:15 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:37:01 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Andre >>I recommended them when I had a GF2 Ultra, and no patch. Now I've got a GF3 >>Ti500 and the patch is out, and 22.80s and 23.10s are perfect. I've heard >>that GF2s are better with the 12.90s, but I don't know. >>Iain > >Ok thanks, I'll stick to the 12.90 drivers then. Allthough I still >have to tweak, 20fps in a full grid at the start :-/ >In training it's between 30-40 on Suzuka. > >Andre

I have a Cel-II 600@900, + Geforce-2 GTS/64mb, and ran 10.80 drivers since getting the card. I tried 12.90's, and saw a small slow-down compared to older drivers. When beta-patch F1-2001 came out, mirrors were a mess, so I tried Nvidia v21.83 drivers, and they out-performed old 10.80 drivers. -But-, there were some graphical glitches in another game. Tried 22.80 drivers, works fine with all games, same speed as 21.83's, and no graphic problems. Funny, 12.90's might be the fastest set for your computer, yet not my computer. Too many posts claim certain drivers are better than others. I think one must test several driver sets, and find the best one. Matt

teehole <holy-smokes@!spammy.net> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Funny, 12.90's might be the fastest set for your computer, yet not my > computer. Too many posts claim certain drivers are better than others. > I think one must test several driver sets, and find the best one. Which i find to be a good thing about nVidia. I can't remember all the times with other video cards where if their driver doesn't work, you're SOL. Yeah, it's a pain in the arse at times to track down a driver that works for you, but at least you have the option. =) I'm using 21.81, btw, and have no desire to change it because the quality and speed work fine for me. -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com