OT: Creative's Crap Website

<rant> I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com and www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and dead links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any region and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds is a f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no drivers - screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? WTF is going on? </rant>

http://www.americas.creative.com/support/files/download.asp?Centric=107 Try here. Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ubpko$7hg90$[email hidden]... > <rant> > > I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.comand > www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors anddead > links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select anyregion > and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds isa > f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, nodrivers - > screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant?WTF > is going on? > > </rant> > > >

Hmm, I tried and I'm downloading the SoundBlaster Live XP drivers just fine at 42Kb/Sec (DSL). Try it just one more time. It may have more to do with your ISP. I'm way out in the country and there just aren't that many people online here. Plus my ISP isn't a big national ISP like AOL or Earthlink. I don't know??? Works for me???? Jeff "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xueO7.96694$[email hidden]...

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> http://www.americas.creative.com/support/files/download.asp?Centric=107 > > Try here. > > > Mike Grandy > www.precision-racing.com > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9ubpko$7hg90$[email hidden]... > > <rant> > > > > I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com > and > > www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and > dead > > links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any > region > > and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds

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> a > > f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no > drivers - > > screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? > WTF > > is going on? > > > > </rant> > > > > > > > >

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:38:53 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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><rant> > >I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com and >www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and dead >links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any region >and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds is a >f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no drivers - >screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? WTF >is going on? > ></rant>

They took all the liveware software down, you can order it on cd - for a price ofcourse, and they took the software down even though the cd isn't ready yet. I also couldn't find drivers for my sblive card on the sblive.com site, but I find them on a couple of other sites by doing a search on google. They're going to make a new program for the sblive cards which also won't be called liveware anymore - I applaud that, since I allways found the liveware software crappy and very clumsy to use. But the fact you can't download the software is total crap. My next soundcard won't be from Creative. PS there is some info about this on the sblive site, but the site is down atm. Andre

Just out of curiosity, what card will you buy next, of course picking from those currently available? I actually purchased the Santa Cruz to try and repair a problem with my gameport, but found out it was a cable instead of the port. That card seemed very good, but I returned it since it wasn't needed. "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:38:53 +1000, "Damien Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > ><rant> > > > >I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.comand > >www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors anddead > >links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select anyregion > >and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine findsis a > >f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, nodrivers - > >screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant?WTF

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> >is going on? > > > ></rant> > > They took all the liveware software down, you can order it on cd - for > a price ofcourse, and they took the software down even though the cd > isn't ready yet. I also couldn't find drivers for my sblive card on > the sblive.com site, but I find them on a couple of other sites by > doing a search on google. > > They're going to make a new program for the sblive cards which also > won't be called liveware anymore - I applaud that, since I allways > found the liveware software crappy and very clumsy to use. But the > fact you can't download the software is total crap. My next soundcard > won't be from Creative. > > PS there is some info about this on the sblive site, but the site is > down atm. > > Andre

The TBSC is a far better card than the SBLive. You should have kept it :) -Larry "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YmhO7.50715$[email hidden]...

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> Just out of curiosity, what card will you buy next, of course picking from > those currently available? I actually purchased the Santa Cruz to try and > repair a problem with my gameport, but found out it was a cable instead of > the port. That card seemed very good, but I returned it since it wasn't > needed. > > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:38:53 +1000, "Damien Smith" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > ><rant> > > > > > >I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from

www.soundblaster.com

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> and > > >www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and > dead > > >links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any > region > > >and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds > is a > > >f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no > drivers - > > >screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? > WTF > > >is going on? > > > > > ></rant> > > > > They took all the liveware software down, you can order it on cd - for > > a price ofcourse, and they took the software down even though the cd > > isn't ready yet. I also couldn't find drivers for my sblive card on > > the sblive.com site, but I find them on a couple of other sites by > > doing a search on google. > > > > They're going to make a new program for the sblive cards which also > > won't be called liveware anymore - I applaud that, since I allways > > found the liveware software crappy and very clumsy to use. But the > > fact you can't download the software is total crap. My next soundcard > > won't be from Creative. > > > > PS there is some info about this on the sblive site, but the site is > > down atm. > > > > Andre > > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3MkO7.125840$[email hidden]... > The TBSC is a far better card than the SBLive. You should have kept it :) > > -Larry Yea, it's a nice card and I have one, but the SC drivers are not exactly perfect either. The Win98 drivers cause a BSOD in certain games and the XP drivers have a problem when using 3D sound API's like EAX or A3D where in some games the sound drops out sporadically. I have this problem under XP in both N4 and IL-2 Sturmovik.

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 22:46:48 -0500, "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Just out of curiosity, what card will you buy next, of course picking from >those currently available? I actually purchased the Santa Cruz to try and >repair a problem with my gameport, but found out it was a cable instead of >the port. That card seemed very good, but I returned it since it wasn't >needed. I don't know yet, when the time comes, I'll ask here for suggestions :) The sblive card itself is very good but I allways have problems with the software - Last week I did a windows reinstall, reinstalled the SBlive software, and when I play movies now I have an echo sound, in games it's good. In the EAX environment I have everything set to 'no effects'. One of many problems I have with the software. So I'm curious if their new software will be more userfriendly, but NO WAY I'm going to pay for software that lets me use the soundcard I bought. Andre

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:38:53 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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><rant> > >I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com and >www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and dead >links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any region >and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds is a >f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no drivers - >screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? WTF >is going on? > ></rant> > >

Try going to http://www.driverguide.com/ for all your driver needs. Everytime I need a driver for one of my computer apps I can ususally find it there. For a username use "Drivers" and for a password use "all". Later

Use the European site. David I "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ubpko$7hg90$[email hidden]... > <rant> > > I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.comand > www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors anddead > links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select anyregion > and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds isa > f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, nodrivers - > screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant?WTF > is going on? > > </rant> > > >

> http://www.americas.creative.com/support/files/download.asp?Centric=107 Well, I had some success getting WinME drivers from this site....the problem is that rear speakers can't be enabled without installing Liveware....I guess I could install the mixer from my ancient Liveware 1.0 CD...

BTW, what is PlayCenter 2?

Yes, I bummed the SB drivers from the European site as well a couple of weeks ago. Hope this helps, Jason Whorton "David Indech" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9uesfl$m4b$[email hidden]...

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> Use the European site. > > David I > > > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9ubpko$7hg90$[email hidden]... > > <rant> > > > > I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com > and > > www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and > dead > > links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any > region > > and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds

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> a > > f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no > drivers - > > screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? > WTF > > is going on? > > > > </rant> > > > > > > > >

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> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:38:53 +1000, "Damien Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > ><rant> > > > >I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com and > >www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and dead > >links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any region > >and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds is a > >f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no drivers - > >screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? WTF > >is going on? > > > ></rant> > > > > > Try going to http://www.driverguide.com/ for all your driver needs. > Everytime I need a driver for one of my computer apps I can ususally > find it there. For a username use "Drivers" and for a password use > "all". > > Later

I've had no problem getting SBlive drivers. I first started at creativelabs.com and selected support - its pretty well thought out actually. I found my XP drivers in no time flat. here's the url that it led to. http://www.americas.creative.com/support/welcome.asp?RD=download

http://www.creative.com/support/files/download.asp This site works fine, the SB site sucks. -- Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ubpko$7hg90$[email hidden]... > <rant> > > I've been trying to download "SBLive!" drivers from www.soundblaster.com and > www.creative.com for the last 5 days. I've had nothing but errors and dead > links. At the moment, on the download driver page, when I select any region > and choose any "SBLive!" product, all the 'helpful' search engine finds is a > f***ing utility for the Nomad Jukebox!!!!!!!!! - no liveware, no drivers - > screw Creative!!! How can such a massive corporation be so incompetant? WTF > is going on? > > </rant> > > >

In article <3MkO7.125840$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: >The TBSC is a far better card than the SBLive. You should have kept it :) > What makes it better? Is there a quantitative difference, or does it just 'sound better to you'? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Not sure what you want... I personally think the drivers are better, the sound is better, and have had ZERO technical problems with the TBSC under ANY version of Windows I've used. I certainly cannot say the same for the SBLive :) -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <3MkO7.125840$[email hidden]>, "Larry" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >The TBSC is a far better card than the SBLive. You should have kept it:)

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> > > > What makes it better? Is there a quantitative difference, or does it just > 'sound better to you'? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <RsWQ7.27492$[email hidden]>, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Not sure what you want... > >I personally think the drivers are better, the sound is better, and have had >ZERO technical problems with the TBSC under ANY version of Windows I've >used. > >I certainly cannot say the same for the SBLive :) >

Ok. I think I had issues when I first installed my SBLive(slot conflicts, or something). But once I moved the card, it's been bulletproof... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Liveware == Fluffware.. Look Creative Labs, just give me the plain old drivers, and I'll use the windows mixer thankyou very much :o/ -- brian - Sorry, the spam got to me! -