n4 startup problems.

I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva tnt2 ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main menu, I never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows xp. Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no patch, 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open gl modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP!

speedracer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, rivatnt2 > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main menu,I > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows xp. > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with nopatch, > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open gl > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! > > I'm sorry, i don't have anything to help, i'm just curious. Why such a high end machine with such a crappy video card in comparison? -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com

"speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, rivatnt2 > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main menu,I > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows xp. > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with nopatch, > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open gl > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! I don't know what the problem is. But, that video card is severly underpowered for that class of cpu and is a bottleneck. If you have the money then get yourself a GF3 Ti 200 and I bet your problem will disappear.

Are you running OpneGL or D3D. You may want to try the one you are not using. It may be the video drivers, have you upgraded to the latest. -- Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva tnt2 > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main menu, I > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows xp. > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no patch, > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open gl > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! > >

Because I had the card already, and I didn't think there would be a HUGE performance gain over a new one, seems how everything I have tried running now has plenty of frame rate anyway. A new card would be overkill when the prices will drop the longer I wait. "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FjmO7.22395$[email hidden]... > speedracer <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva > tnt2 > > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to mainmenu, > I > > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windowsxp. > > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no > patch, > > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and opengl > > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! > > > > > > I'm sorry, i don't have anything to help, i'm just curious. Why such ahigh

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> end machine with such a crappy video card in comparison? > -- > - Will DeRivera > - http://www.numic.net > - http://www.luxt.com > > >

As I have said, I tried both modes to no avail. I beg to differ on the card, I realize it is a bottle neck, but it is more card than I need right now, for the games that I play, so I was trying to make it work. "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ufqO7.98168$[email hidden]...

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> Are you running OpneGL or D3D. You may want to try the one you are not > using. It may be the video drivers, have you upgraded to the latest. > > > -- > Mike Grandy > www.precision-racing.com > "speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva > tnt2 > > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main

menu, > I > > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windowsxp. > > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no > patch, > > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and opengl > > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! > > > > > >

I said drivers, not a new card. Sometimes different versions of the drivers have an affect. -- Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BVsO7.9327$[email hidden]... > As I have said, I tried both modes to no avail. I beg to differ on the > card, I realize it is a bottle neck, but it is more card than I need right > now, for the games that I play, so I was trying to make it work. > "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ufqO7.98168$[email hidden]... > > Are you running OpneGL or D3D. You may want to try the one you are not > > using. It may be the video drivers, have you upgraded to the latest. > > > > > > -- > > Mike Grandy > > www.precision-racing.com > > "speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > > > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva > > tnt2 > > > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main > menu, > > I > > > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows > xp. > > > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no > > patch, > > > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open > gl > > > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! > > > > > > > > > > > >

That old card is waaay underpowered to run N4 in all its glory. BUt it should run provided you have solid drivers, try a different dirver set for your video card. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash speedracer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BVsO7.9327$[email hidden]... > As I have said, I tried both modes to no avail. I beg to differ on the > card, I realize it is a bottle neck, but it is more card than I need right > now, for the games that I play, so I was trying to make it work. > "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ufqO7.98168$[email hidden]... > > Are you running OpneGL or D3D. You may want to try the one you are not > > using. It may be the video drivers, have you upgraded to the latest. > > > > > > -- > > Mike Grandy > > www.precision-racing.com > > "speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... > > > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva > > tnt2 > > > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main > menu, > > I > > > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows > xp. > > > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no > > patch, > > > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open > gl > > > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! > > > > > > > > > > > >

"speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BVsO7.9327$[email hidden]... > As I have said, I tried both modes to no avail. I beg to differ on the > card, I realize it is a bottle neck, but it is more card than I need right > now, for the games that I play, If the card is more than you need right now then so is a P4 2ghz cpu.You are just hobbling your cpu by using that vid card. But, it's your choice.

"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZBtO7.98688$[email hidden]... > I said drivers, not a new card. Sometimes different versions of thedrivers > have an affect. He was referring to what I said.

"speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]>... > I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva tnt2 > ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main menu, I > never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows xp. > Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no patch, > 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open gl > modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! I have had problems similar to this with some other games. All were because the game expected a particular video driver, and I was using another. All were a relatively common problem with those particular games. Haven't heard of this yet with N4. Try the nVidia reference drivers, if you are using Creative's or some other mfr's drivers. Be prepared to try a lot of drivers, there are about a gazillion iterations of the nVidia Detonators out there. There used to be a site where you could download any or all of them. Don't recall the URL, sorry. good luck, Gerald

I misspoke on the card. It is a hercules geforce 2 ultra 64meg. It was the best card to have a year ago, and I am getting over 70 fps in f12001 so it is not bottlenecking the system too bad. "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vXEO7.869$[email hidden]... > > "speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:BVsO7.9327$[email hidden]... > > As I have said, I tried both modes to no avail. I beg to differ on the > > card, I realize it is a bottle neck, but it is more card than I needright > > now, for the games that I play, > > If the card is more than you need right now then so is a P4 2ghz cpu.Youare > just hobbling your cpu by using that vid card. But, it's your choice. > >

In article <FjmO7.22395$[email hidden]>, "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>speedracer <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:IjlO7.8610$[email hidden]... >> I recently installed nascar 4 on a new computer. P4 2 gigahertz, riva >tnt2 >> ultra, 512meg rdram. When I get past startup screen, and go to main menu, >I >> never see the main menu, it kicks me back to desktop. Running windows xp. >> Have tried two different vid card drivers, have tried running with no >patch, >> 1st patch and second patch to no avail. Have tried direct 3d and open gl >> modes, open gl just locks machine up. HELP! >> >> > >I'm sorry, i don't have anything to help, i'm just curious. Why such a high >end machine with such a crappy video card in comparison?

That sounds like what GPL does on my office computer with the same video card... How do you try the different modes if it won't let you get into the program? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"speedracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nKXO7.4$[email hidden]... > I misspoke on the card. It is a hercules geforce 2 ultra 64meg. It wasthe > best card to have a year ago, and I am getting over 70 fps in f12001 so it > is not bottlenecking the system too bad. No, that card is quite a different beast from the TnT and is not a bottleneck at all on a P4 2ghz machine.

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That sounds like what GPL does on my office computer with the same video > card... How do you try the different modes if it won't let you get intothe > program? > Try getting into the app.ini file and change the line: [ Graphics ] lastRasterizerDLL = *whatever*.dll ; Last rasterizer DLL selected To: [ Graphics ] lastRasterizerDLL = softdll.dll ; Last rasterizer DLL selected Maybe it's trying to use 3dfx or something? Only thing i can think of. -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com

In article <dIYP7.34991$[email hidden]>, "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Try getting into the app.ini file and change the line: > >[ Graphics ] >lastRasterizerDLL = *whatever*.dll ; Last rasterizer DLL selected > >To: > >[ Graphics ] >lastRasterizerDLL = softdll.dll ; Last rasterizer DLL selected > >Maybe it's trying to use 3dfx or something? Only thing i can think of.

Since there's no 3dfx card IN the machine, I hope not...<g> I'll try the softdll.dll... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.