Who else wants a sports car racing game with realistic physics

I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with N4 physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, do it.

Do a search for WSC(World Sports Cars), it should be what you're looking for. There's a lot of debate about whether or not it's vaporware but I bet Papy won't even think about making a Sportscar sim until they know the fate of WSC. I'm really surprised Papy didn't think of it first though. I doubt any publishers would pay for a WSC development team if Papy already had a sportscar sim on the market. Best guess about its release date is mid to late 2002, but that's just MHO, could be sooner or later. "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pbzO7.47653$[email hidden]... > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with N4 > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, doit. > > >

How do we know the physics are any good, We have heard allot about this for the last year and seen a few movies. But I can think of quite a few racing titles that didn't live up to their hype. I also would love to see papy make an attempt at this also. -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c0ad346$0$30569$[email hidden]... > Do a search for WSC(World Sports Cars), it should be what you're looking > for. There's a lot of debate about whether or not it's vaporware but I bet > Papy won't even think about making a Sportscar sim until they know the fate > of WSC. I'm really surprised Papy didn't think of it first though. I doubt > any publishers would pay for a WSC development team if Papy already had a > sportscar sim on the market. Best guess about its release date is mid to > late 2002, but that's just MHO, could be sooner or later. > > "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pbzO7.47653$[email hidden]... > > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with N4 > > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another > > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, do > it. > > > > > > > >

Well, by sports cars, I meant street-legal cars. "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CfBO7.64449$[email hidden]... > How do we know the physics are any good, We have heard allot about thisfor > the last year and seen a few movies. But I can think of quite a few racing > titles that didn't live up to their hype. I also would love to see papymake

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> an attempt at this also. > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > > "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3c0ad346$0$30569$[email hidden]... > > Do a search for WSC(World Sports Cars), it should be what you're looking > > for. There's a lot of debate about whether or not it's vaporware but I > bet > > Papy won't even think about making a Sportscar sim until they know the > fate > > of WSC. I'm really surprised Papy didn't think of it first though. I > doubt > > any publishers would pay for a WSC development team if Papy already had

a > > sportscar sim on the market. Best guess about its release date is midto > > late 2002, but that's just MHO, could be sooner or later. > > > > "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:pbzO7.47653$[email hidden]... > > > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, butwith > N4 > > > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > > > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont wantanother > > > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy,do

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How many years have we been waiting for WSC...?

With Gran Tourismo 3 available, why waste resources on that for a PC? There are close to half a dozen console titles similar to GT3 now...Some even have damage. I would like to see more historical titles, like Can Am and hopefully WSC will be the one where we can REALLY race endurance races with teammates in the same car...That would be cool...24hour race with 4 or 5 co drivers to run the same car along with dozens of other online competitors... (I can dream can't I?) dave henrie "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:07CO7.63081$[email hidden]...

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> Well, by sports cars, I meant street-legal cars. > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CfBO7.64449$[email hidden]... > > How do we know the physics are any good, We have heard allot about this > for > > the last year and seen a few movies. But I can think of quite a few

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> > titles that didn't live up to their hype. I also would love to see papy > make > > an attempt at this also. > > > > -- > > Kevin Anderson > > [email hidden] > > > > "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3c0ad346$0$30569$[email hidden]... > > > Do a search for WSC(World Sports Cars), it should be what you're

looking > > > for. There's a lot of debate about whether or not it's vaporware butI > > bet > > > Papy won't even think about making a Sportscar sim until they know the > > fate > > > of WSC. I'm really surprised Papy didn't think of it first though. I > > doubt > > > any publishers would pay for a WSC development team if Papy alreadyhad

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> a > > > sportscar sim on the market. Best guess about its release date is mid > to > > > late 2002, but that's just MHO, could be sooner or later. > > > > > > "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:pbzO7.47653$[email hidden]... > > > > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but > with > > N4 > > > > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies.

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> > > > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want > another > > > > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, > do > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:29:06 -0500, "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well, by sports cars, I meant street-legal cars. I'd buy the game you suggest in a second. The closest the PC has come is Viper and Porsche Unleashed, both of which I still play regularly. I'll buy WSC, but admit I like the "street racer" type titles. As far as the "buy a consol suggestion", I'm not about to buy a PS2, steering wheel, and some kind of desk so I can use it (and can't leave sitting out in the living room) for one game. Tim

I'd like to see it. Really, if there was a way to use the physics engine but create new vehicles and environments easily, that would solve the problem. Of course, nobody's done it yet, so... roy rogers wrote: > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with N4 > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, do it.

Well, as far as the wheel, if you've got a Logitech Force Feedback USB...you're set. ;) The only -good- wheel for GT3 on the PS2 is the Logitech 'GT3' wheel - which is a slightly cheaper version of the Red FF wheel, with blue instead of red. Works on the PS2, and the PC sees it as a red wheel... ;) Though I do love GT3...I'd also love a computer version at least as good. One of the ways I like PC games better is the customizations that come out, and IMO, the sounds in GT3 are flawed...that, and I'd loooooove online racing. =) Milhouse "Tim O" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:29:06 -0500, "roy rogers" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Well, by sports cars, I meant street-legal cars. > > I'd buy the game you suggest in a second. > The closest the PC has come is Viper and Porsche Unleashed, both of > which I still play regularly. > > I'll buy WSC, but admit I like the "street racer" type titles. > As far as the "buy a consol suggestion", I'm not about to buy a PS2, > steering wheel, and some kind of desk so I can use it (and can't leave > sitting out in the living room) for one game. > > Tim >

Because GT3 had only 5 AI cars who are dumb asses that simply run a perfect race line, whether or not you're there. GT3 is about driving pretty cars on pretty tracks by yourself. There is no racing, just avoiding brain dead AI. I loved the graphics but was bored racing alone after about 2 days. I have high hopes for Toca 3 (forget the actual title) which is a SCGT type game using the next generation of the outstanding AI from Jarrett & Labonte Racing (PSOne believe it or not). It is career based sports car racing on real tracks against a full field of cars. It will be on the PS2, XBOX and PC (pretty sure about the PC). I'm tired of waiting for WSC after a few years. I just want to drive it! I'm worried it won't happen. Didn't they just lose Empire as their publisher? I hope to see WSC next year, but I'm not holding my breath. At least with codemaster and Toca 3, we'll probably see it on time Q1 2002. -- Joe Marques "Dave Henre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SADO7.3469$TZ1.1513@rwcrnsc51... > With Gran Tourismo 3 available, why waste resources on that for a PC? > There are close to half a dozen console titles similar to GT3 now...Some > even have damage. > I would like to see more historical titles, like Can Am and hopefully > WSC will be the one where we can REALLY race endurance races with teammates > in the same car...That would be cool...24hour race with 4 or 5 co drivers to > run the same car along with dozens of other online competitors... > (I can dream can't I?) > dave henrie

more likely to get it from the west bros. than you are from papy. harlie "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'd like to see it. > > Really, if there was a way to use the physics engine but create newvehicles

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> and environments easily, that would solve the problem. > > Of course, nobody's done it yet, so... > > roy rogers wrote: > > > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with

N4 > > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another > > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, doit. > >

more likely to get it from the west bros. than you are from papy. Charlie "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'd like to see it. > > Really, if there was a way to use the physics engine but create newvehicles

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> and environments easily, that would solve the problem. > > Of course, nobody's done it yet, so... > > roy rogers wrote: > > > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with

N4 > > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another > > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, doit. > >

You could say that again! Oh, you did. ;0) -- Joe Marques "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:auPO7.25353$[email hidden]... > more likely to get it from the west bros. than you are from papy. > > Charlie > > "andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I'd like to see it. > > > > Really, if there was a way to use the physics engine but create new > vehicles > > and environments easily, that would solve the problem. > > > > Of course, nobody's done it yet, so... > > > > roy rogers wrote: > > > > > I swear, papy should make a game to compete with gran turismo, but with > N4 > > > physics... market it well and it will sell billions of copies. Imagine > > > racing all kinds of cars against each other online. I dont want another > > > nascar sim and there's not much hope for cart...... so come on papy, do > it. > > > > > > > > > >

Milhouse <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MHLO7.24717$[email hidden]... > > Though I do love GT3...I'd also love a computer version at least as good. > One of the ways I like PC games better is the customizations that comeout, > and IMO, the sounds in GT3 are flawed...that, and I'd loooooove online > racing. =) > IMO? No, no...the sounds ARE flawed. =) Last i checked, the C5 racecar did not sound like a silenced V6. hehe... -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com

Yeah, exactly, that's where I find the sounds flawed, all of the V8s. Sadly, it was all of those four-cylinder buzzbombs they got right... Though, the street GT40 isn't bad. Haven't snagged the race one yet. Too bad it has NO BRAKES. =P Milhouse "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VySO7.16545$[email hidden]... > > Milhouse <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MHLO7.24717$[email hidden]... > > > > Though I do love GT3...I'd also love a computer version at least asgood.

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> > One of the ways I like PC games better is the customizations that come > out, > > and IMO, the sounds in GT3 are flawed...that, and I'd loooooove online > > racing. =) > > > > IMO? No, no...the sounds ARE flawed. =) Last i checked, the C5 racecar

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> not sound like a silenced V6. hehe... > -- > - Will DeRivera > - http://www.numic.net > - http://www.luxt.com > > >

> With Gran Tourismo 3 available, why waste resources on that for a PC? >There are close to half a dozen console titles similar to GT3 now...Some >even have damage. Well I for one (or does that make three or four here so far) would want a PC title like this more than any other single game. Mainly as it hasn't been done well. And even if so, it can be done better! To me, there is no more fun sim than one that has a survey of real cars ranging from the very ordinary through the exotics. And throw in real tracks, not imaginary city/country scapes. How about some good autocross courses? Make them constructable. The mediocre sound of some of the GT series cars has been mentioned. GT/GT2/GT3 also don't cut it in terms of AI. The racing can be absolutely maddening and atrocious. And certainly some companies, you know who, could do a better physics model. So, while I love the Gran Turismo series, I'd prefer a top-flight PC-version. As to alternative console titles... I've tried Sega GT, Tokyo Extreme Racer 2, Metropolis Street Racer. To me, they are either very different than GT or just poor imitations. Besides, why not a PC version where we can use our PC peripherals? Last, there's a half-dozen PC F1 racing sims, but that doesn't seem to keep the residents here from waiting for the next! cheers...

On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:12:19 GMT, "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Because GT3 had only 5 AI cars who are dumb asses that simply run a perfect >race line, whether or not you're there. GT3 is about driving pretty cars on >pretty tracks by yourself. There is no racing, just avoiding brain dead AI. >I loved the graphics but was bored racing alone after about 2 days. I agree totally, I would love to see a decent PC version on a similar, road cars priciple. And NOT Need For Speed either... Rafe Mc