MOMO settings in F1 2001

I'm looking for some help. Just got the Logitech Momo FF (which I love btw) and am having trouble with it in F1 2001. 1) I seem to have alot of trouble with calibration. When I start the game and go to drivers school, I usually have no pedals whatsoever. Steering works, but the accelerator and brakes are "non-existent." I've tried going back to the controller settings and using the "USB MOMO" setting as well as a custom one, but neither seems to do the trick. The only way that I seem to be able to get it to work is to go back to the custom axis mapping and manually go through and assign the axes to the pedals and steering. Funny thing is that the axis are always shown correctly, but for some reason going through this excercise seems to fix things. Anyone else experienced this? BTW - I've run GPL and everything works fine, so I'm pretty sure its something specific to F1 2001. 2) Can someone with a Momo please post their entire plr file. I've tried cutting and pasting the FF advanced settings, but the file always seems to get wiped out when I exit the game and check to see if the settings stayed. I'm thinking it might have something to do with the way I cut and pasted the text. 3) I'm thinking of installing the "squashball" and I've seen many reference a squashball.reg file or some additional settings that need to be changed to re-calibrate the pedals after this modification. I've looked everywhere but can't seem to find this file. Can someone please direct me to it? Thanks in advance. Dave Dell Dimension R350 Intel P3 1 Ghz Windows XP GeForce 2 GTS Pro 196MB RAM

"Dave Zavelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> BTW - I've run GPL and everything works fine, so I'm pretty sure its > something specific to F1 2001. > > 2) Can someone with a Momo please post their entire plr file. I've > tried cutting and pasting the FF advanced settings, but the file > always seems to get wiped out when I exit the game and check to see if > the settings stayed. I'm thinking it might have something to do with > the way I cut and pasted the text.

I would also be interested in this. I'm getting my new system next week (already have the MOMO wheel), and I want to play F1 2001 as well. I see trouble ahead... Maybe there should be a binaries equivalent of this newsgroup (maybe not a bad idea, I'm thinking screenshots, replays, setups?). > 3) I'm thinking of installing the "squashball" and I've seen many > reference a squashball.reg file or some additional settings that need > to be changed to re-calibrate the pedals after this modification. > I've looked everywhere but can't seem to find this file. Can someone > please direct me to it? I think you need Clear Calibration, to be found here: http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm I'm not 100% sure though, maybe someone can confirm this? Ice D

On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:55:25 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> 3) I'm thinking of installing the "squashball" and I've seen many >> reference a squashball.reg file or some additional settings that need >> to be changed to re-calibrate the pedals after this modification. >> I've looked everywhere but can't seem to find this file. Can someone >> please direct me to it? > >I think you need Clear Calibration, to be found here: > >http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm > >I'm not 100% sure though, maybe someone can confirm this? > >Ice D

No, the squashball reg file is in the Momo beta drivers, do a search on the http://www.wingmanteam.com forum for them. Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:55:25 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> 3) I'm thinking of installing the "squashball" and I've seen many > >> reference a squashball.reg file or some additional settings that need > >> to be changed to re-calibrate the pedals after this modification. > >> I've looked everywhere but can't seem to find this file. Can someone > >> please direct me to it? > > > >I think you need Clear Calibration, to be found here: > > > >http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm > > > >I'm not 100% sure though, maybe someone can confirm this? > > > >Ice D > > No, the squashball reg file is in the Momo beta drivers, do a search > on the http://www.wingmanteam.com forum for them.

I have the 4.11 drivers (b or c?), but they don't seem to be in there. So here's what I'm looking at: if I were to use the squashball, I may (?) run into calibration problems, which may (?) be solved with a file called squashball.reg, which is supposed to be included in some beta drivers, of which the version number is unknown to me, so I wouldn't be able to find them anyway... That's just great... :( Ice D

On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 19:25:03 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have the 4.11 drivers (b or c?), but they don't seem to be in there. So >here's what I'm looking at: if I were to use the squashball, I may (?) run >into calibration problems, which may (?) be solved with a file called >squashball.reg, which is supposed to be included in some beta drivers, of >which the version number is unknown to me, so I wouldn't be able to find >them anyway... > >That's just great... :( > >Ice D

Woops, forget my beta patch post, I just noticed new official drivers have been released a couple of days ago, the 4.11c that you mention. From the beta drivers page on www/wingmanteam.com: Overview All of the changes listed below have been incorporated into the Logitech WingMan Software v4.11c release. We would like to that all of you who participated & gave feedback in the beta. Every little bit helps. So.. make sure you install 4.11C and see if you have the squash reg file then. Or maybe the reg file is not needed anymore after installing 4.11c.. Do you actually have any problems with calibrating after replacing the spring with the squashball? After I put a squashball in my momo case, calibration was all messed up, which was fixed with the reg file that came with the beta drivers. I guess it has now been fixed with the 4.11c, and it seems you don't need a seperate reg file for it anymore. Simply try it, replace the spring with a squashball, and if you have calib problems after that you can mail me and I'll send you the reg file. In the worst case you can still put the spring back in the case :) Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote: > So.. make sure you install 4.11C and see if you have the squash reg > file then. Or maybe the reg file is not needed anymore after > installing 4.11c.. Do you actually have any problems with calibrating > after replacing the spring with the squashball? No no, I haven't got round to getting a squashball yet. I'm currently buying parts for a new PC, and I'm just in the 'preparing' phase, so to speak. I don't play racing games right now, apart from good old Colin McRae. But I'm definitely going to try it (already got the MOMO obviously, and I like it). Apart from that, I think I have 4.11b, but I'm not sure. > After I put a squashball in my momo case, calibration was all messed > up, which was fixed with the reg file that came with the beta drivers. Yeah, I actually came across your posts about that, just now on google groups. But I thought you wrote you used ClearCalib to fix things?

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> I guess it has now been fixed with the 4.11c, and it seems you don't > need a seperate reg file for it anymore. > Simply try it, replace the spring with a squashball, and if you have > calib problems after that you can mail me and I'll send you the reg > file. > > In the worst case you can still put the spring back in the case :)

I'm sure I will figure it out somehow, although I may take you up on that :) Cheers, Ice D

On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:51:20 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yeah, I actually came across your posts about that, just now on google >groups. But I thought you wrote you used ClearCalib to fix things? No, that was about something else. The default deadzones in directx are not set to 0. And for perfect control, you want them on 0, no deadzones at all. I allways used an utility from wingmanteam for this called DXTweak. But after I used that, the calibration of the momo was totally messed up. That was fixed again by running ClearCalib. So don't use DXTweak with the momo (allthough you can use it if you set some values manually, but thats another story), simply use the DXDeadzone utility to set the deadzones to 0 without any problems. You can download all mentioned utils here: http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm >I'm sure I will figure it out somehow, although I may take you up on that :) Yes it's all pretty easy to do actually so don't worry :) Andre >Cheers, > >Ice D > >

That's why I din't see the reg file, because I have the new 4.11c drivers which must have it built in. Thanks for the help. Still haven't fixed my lack of pedals though. Its really weird. Last night I actually had pedals and everything for drivers school. Then I went into a race and sudenly they were gone again! I had to go back, reassign axes and then everything was back again. Very strange... Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:51:20 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Yeah, I actually came across your posts about that, just now on google > >groups. But I thought you wrote you used ClearCalib to fix things? > > No, that was about something else. The default deadzones in directx > are not set to 0. And for perfect control, you want them on 0, no > deadzones at all. I allways used an utility from wingmanteam for this > called DXTweak. But after I used that, the calibration of the momo was > totally messed up. That was fixed again by running ClearCalib. > > So don't use DXTweak with the momo (allthough you can use it if you > set some values manually, but thats another story), simply use the > DXDeadzone utility to set the deadzones to 0 without any problems. > You can download all mentioned utils here: > http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm > > >I'm sure I will figure it out somehow, although I may take you up on that :) > > Yes it's all pretty easy to do actually so don't worry :) > > Andre > > >Cheers, > > > >Ice D > > > >

On 6 Dec 2001 19:41:34 -0800, [email hidden] (Dave Zavelson) wrote:

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>That's why I din't see the reg file, because I have the new 4.11c >drivers which must have it built in. Thanks for the help. > >Still haven't fixed my lack of pedals though. Its really weird. Last >night I actually had pedals and everything for drivers school. Then I >went into a race and sudenly they were gone again! I had to go back, >reassign axes and then everything was back again. Very strange...

This was in F1 2001 I assume? I don't think it's momo-related but a bug in F1 2001 instead. I had this a couple of times with my momo pedals, but also with my former LWFF + CH pedals setup. No need to recalibrate though, I just went back to the main menu, went to the track again and suddenly they worked. And now I just remember someone with a hyper had the same problem too in an online session with me. Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Yeah, I actually came across your posts about that, just now on google > >groups. But I thought you wrote you used ClearCalib to fix things? > No, that was about something else. The default deadzones in directx > are not set to 0. And for perfect control, you want them on 0, no > deadzones at all. I allways used an utility from wingmanteam for this > called DXTweak. But after I used that, the calibration of the momo was > totally messed up. That was fixed again by running ClearCalib. > So don't use DXTweak with the momo (allthough you can use it if you > set some values manually, but thats another story), simply use the > DXDeadzone utility to set the deadzones to 0 without any problems. > You can download all mentioned utils here: > http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm

I see, so I'll hopefully only need DXTweak. I was a bit worried when I read the Readme.txt (with the warnings and all), but I'm sure I'll figure it out. It's good to know I can check back with you guys if things get screwed up though... Cheers, and happy racing (or flying)! Ice D

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> "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Yeah, I actually came across your posts about that, just now on google > >groups. But I thought you wrote you used ClearCalib to fix things? > No, that was about something else. The default deadzones in directx > are not set to 0. And for perfect control, you want them on 0, no > deadzones at all. I allways used an utility from wingmanteam for this > called DXTweak. But after I used that, the calibration of the momo was > totally messed up. That was fixed again by running ClearCalib. > So don't use DXTweak with the momo (allthough you can use it if you > set some values manually, but thats another story), simply use the > DXDeadzone utility to set the deadzones to 0 without any problems. > You can download all mentioned utils here: > http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm

I see, so I'll hopefully only need DXTweak. I was a bit worried when I read the Readme.txt (with the warnings and all), but I'm sure I'll figure it out. It's good to know I can check back with you guys if things get screwed up though... By the way, does the squashball upgrade apply for the old LWFF pedal-set as well? I'm going to a friend later, who still has the LWFF (the first one, with the weak springs). Cheers, and happy racing (or flying)! Ice D

On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:34:46 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> >> So don't use DXTweak with the momo (allthough you can use it if you^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <snip> >I see, so I'll hopefully only need DXTweak. I was a bit worried when I read >the Readme.txt (with the warnings and all), but I'm sure I'll figure it out. >It's good to know I can check back with you guys if things get screwed up >though... NOT DXTweak but use DXdeadzone instead :) >By the way, does the squashball upgrade apply for the old LWFF pedal-set as >well? I'm going to a friend later, who still has the LWFF (the first one, >with the weak springs). I think so, allthough I never tried it with the old LWFF. I replaced those with CH pedals one day later :) Andre >Cheers, and happy racing (or flying)! > >Ice D > >

<snip> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <snip> NOT DXTweak but use DXdeadzone instead :) I think so, allthough I never tried it with the old LWFF. I replaced those with CH pedals one day later :) Andre

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> On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:34:46 GMT, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > <snip> > >> So don't use DXTweak with the momo (allthough you can use it if you > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > <snip> > > >I see, so I'll hopefully only need DXTweak. I was a bit worried when I

read > >the Readme.txt (with the warnings and all), but I'm sure I'll figure itout. > >It's good to know I can check back with you guys if things get screwed up > >though... > > NOT DXTweak but use DXdeadzone instead :) You're right, I've misread your post. Thanks again, Ice D

>:> NOT DXTweak but use DXdeadzone instead :) Superb idea, but is there any equivalent that works with Windows XP? I have a problem with my wheel being slightly off centre in the dead position, and I was hoping that DXDeadzone would fix it. Tsunami

You need the new drivers. That was first patched by www.wingmanteam.com and now it's part of the latest drivers (4.11c I believe). -- Joe Marques "Tsunami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Superb idea, but is there any equivalent that works with Windows XP? > I have a problem with my wheel being slightly off centre in the dead > position, and I was hoping that DXDeadzone would fix it. > > Tsunami

Thanks Joe, Where abouts is this setting? I have the latest drivers, but can't find it in the Profiler. Or am I missing something? Tsunami Once upon a time "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> scribed carefully: >:You need the new drivers. That was first patched by www.wingmanteam.com and >:now it's part of the latest drivers (4.11c I believe).

Your welcome Tsunami. There is no setting for this, the off-center fix is automatic. The original drivers resulted in the wheel being slightly off=center when connected to the PC. The patch corrected this automatically and the new drivers now incorporate this fix so there should be no off-center problems. Is your wheel still off center after loading the new drivers? If so, you may need to clear the calibration using a utility file available at wingmanteam. -- Joe Marques "Tsunami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks Joe, > Where abouts is this setting? I have the latest drivers, but can't > find it in the Profiler. Or am I missing something? > > Tsunami > > > Once upon a time "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> scribed > carefully: > > >:You need the new drivers. That was first patched by www.wingmanteam.com and > >:now it's part of the latest drivers (4.11c I believe). >

Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Yes it is still slightly off centre. I will have a look at eh wingmanteam site and D/L the utility today. Thanks again, Tsunami Once upon a time "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> scribed carefully:

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>:Your welcome Tsunami. >: >:There is no setting for this, the off-center fix is automatic. The original >:drivers resulted in the wheel being slightly off=center when connected to >:the PC. The patch corrected this automatically and the new drivers now >:incorporate this fix so there should be no off-center problems. Is your >:wheel still off center after loading the new drivers? >: >:If so, you may need to clear the calibration using a utility file available >:at wingmanteam.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Tsunami) writes: >>:> NOT DXTweak but use DXdeadzone instead :) > >Superb idea, but is there any equivalent that works with Windows XP? >I have a problem with my wheel being slightly off centre in the dead >position, and I was hoping that DXDeadzone would fix it. > Would DXDeadzone work with ANY controller? The website seems to suggest it would... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

The latest Wingman software fixes that. Or, at least, gets it very close... -Larry "Tsunami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >:> NOT DXTweak but use DXdeadzone instead :) > > Superb idea, but is there any equivalent that works with Windows XP? > I have a problem with my wheel being slightly off centre in the dead > position, and I was hoping that DXDeadzone would fix it. > > Tsunami

There is no setting. I begged for this from the Wingman team, but it didn't show :( They are hand-tuning it in the driver and for whatever can't/won't provide a centering slider. -Larry "Tsunami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Thanks Joe, > Where abouts is this setting? I have the latest drivers, but can't > find it in the Profiler. Or am I missing something? > > Tsunami > > > Once upon a time "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> scribed > carefully: > > >:You need the new drivers. That was first patched by www.wingmanteam.com

and > >:now it's part of the latest drivers (4.11c I believe). >

On 10 Dec 2001 03:09:06 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Would DXDeadzone work with ANY controller? The website seems to suggest it >would... > >Eldred I'm not sure, I -think- so though.. Hey, just try it, the worst thing that can happen is that you mess up your registry, forcing you into a clean install of Windows! :) Andre