Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since installing the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable to access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel. The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when I try to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / Game Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without opening the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message was output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers. SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d. Registers: EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202 EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264 ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656 Bytes at CS:EIP: f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c Stack dump: 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000 0063f29c 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c 0034045e I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my gameport FF wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is not supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old version 3 from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the following message occurred. UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0084:00000009. Registers: EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286 EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8 ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c Stack dump: 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa 10097380 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828 bff77848 I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4 Sidewinder software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system specs are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX (64MB), Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a. Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA. -- Rob. My address is MUNGED!! Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.

J got the same problem but can't find out what's wrong, purchased the wheel yesterday. I've searched the MS K. .Base but found nothing... Have you solved the problem... I need help on this one.. /Leif "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet news:9utrir$mhr$[email hidden]... > I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since installing > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable to > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel. > The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when Itry > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / Game > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes withoutopening

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> the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message was > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers. > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d. > Registers: > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202 > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264 > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c > Stack dump: > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000 0063f29c > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c 0034045e > > I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my gameport

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> wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is not > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old version 3 > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the following > message occurred. > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009. > Registers: > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286 > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8 > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c > Stack dump: > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa 10097380 > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828 bff77848 > > I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4 Sidewinder > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system

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> are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX (64MB), > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a. > Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA. > > -- > > Rob. > My address is MUNGED!! > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > >

You need Win98SE being Win98FE suck with must of USB device out there

That would be the System Tray extension. I would look for some sort of conflict. You didn't mention your OS version... -Larry "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9utrir$mhr$[email hidden]... > I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since installing > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable to > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel. > The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when Itry > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / Game > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes withoutopening

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> the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message was > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers. > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d. > Registers: > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202 > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264 > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c > Stack dump: > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000 0063f29c > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c 0034045e > > I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my gameport

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> wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is not > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old version 3 > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the following > message occurred. > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009. > Registers: > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286 > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8 > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c > Stack dump: > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa 10097380 > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828 bff77848 > > I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4 Sidewinder > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system

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> are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX (64MB), > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a. > Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA. > > -- > > Rob. > My address is MUNGED!! > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > >

Personally, I have had ZERO problems with Windows 98 First Edition, and in fact avoid Win98SE like the plague due to the engineering problems within it that MS has never, and probably never will, fix. Win98FE, with all the appropriate patches, has always been the most stable version of Win9x I've ever used. I HATE supporting Win98SE on a large scale (which, unfortunately, I have to do). JMHO -Larry "SHS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ohw#5LOgBHA.2508@tkmsftngp07... > You need Win98SE being Win98FE suck with must of USB device out there > >

> Personally, I have had ZERO problems with Windows 98 First Edition, and in > fact avoid Win98SE like the plague due to the engineering problems within it > that MS has never, and probably never will, fix.Hmm that funny Win98 had more engineering problems that why Win98SE come out in the first place > Win98FE, with all the appropriate patches, has always been the most stable > version of Win9x I've ever used.Lucky you it major headack for me in fact so was WinME hehe.

Ah, yes I did mention my OS - Win 98 FE (not SE). What sort of conflict, Larry? Where should I be looking? Device Manager?? I didn't notice any conflict in Device Manager when I had a quick glance. Thanks for the reply. -- Rob. My address is MUNGED!! Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k4WQ7.27480$[email hidden]... > That would be the System Tray extension. I would look for some sort of > conflict. > > You didn't mention your OS version... > > -Larry > > "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9utrir$mhr$[email hidden]... > > I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since installing > > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable to > > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel. > > The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when I > try > > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / Game > > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without > opening > > the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message was > > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers. > > > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > > > > > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in > > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d. > > Registers: > > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202 > > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264 > > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f > > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656 > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c > > Stack dump: > > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000 0063f29c > > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c 0034045e > > > > I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my gameport > FF > > wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is not > > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old version 3 > > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the following > > message occurred. > > > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in > > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009. > > Registers: > > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286 > > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8 > > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f > > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000 > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c > > Stack dump: > > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa 10097380 > > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828 bff77848 > > > > I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4 Sidewinder > > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system > specs > > are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX (64MB), > > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a. > > Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA. > > > > -- > > > > Rob. > > My address is MUNGED!! > > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > > > > > >

My OS - Win 98 FE, all uppdates... P2 450, Matrox g400 32 m, Sb-live, 256 ram, 8 GB HD... dx 8.1 It will work without the software, but there'll be no FF then :( .. I tried it, unistalled all software... and just plugged it in...the system whants win98 cd for some usb files..... then checked it out in thrustm. propanel.. important to ..give it ID 1. Then I drove some laps of GPL ... but there's no ff ... It seems like there is some problem working with Joy.cpl to.... ?? Until there is a solution for the bug or problem (Microsoft?) it's better then nothing... Seems like it won't work with XP either... or??? getting my new PC thirsday ... P4 1.7 ... Win XP .. etc.. /Leif "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet news:9v1jh0$ub6$[email hidden]... > Ah, yes I did mention my OS - Win 98 FE (not SE). > What sort of conflict, Larry? Where should I be looking? DeviceManager?? > I didn't notice any conflict in Device Manager when I had a quickglance.

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> Thanks for the reply. > > -- > > Rob. > My address is MUNGED!! > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:k4WQ7.27480$[email hidden]... > > That would be the System Tray extension. I would look for some sort of > > conflict. > > > > You didn't mention your OS version... > > > > -Larry > > > > "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9utrir$mhr$[email hidden]... > > > I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since > installing > > > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable > to > > > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel. > > > The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when

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> > try > > > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / > Game > > > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without > > opening > > > the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message > was > > > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers. > > > > > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > > > > > > > > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in > > > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d. > > > Registers: > > > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202 > > > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264 > > > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f > > > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656 > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c > > > Stack dump: > > > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000

0063f29c > > > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c0034045e > > > > > > I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for mygameport > > FF > > > wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version isnot > > > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the oldversion

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> 3 > > > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the > following > > > message occurred. > > > > > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in > > > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009. > > > Registers: > > > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286 > > > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8 > > > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f > > > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000 > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c > > > Stack dump: > > > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa

10097380 > > > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828bff77848 > > > > > > I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4Sidewinder

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> > > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system > > specs > > > are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX > (64MB), > > > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a. > > > Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rob. > > > My address is MUNGED!! > > > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think most of us would agree that WinME is the OS that should have never been. Absolutely DREADFUL stuff. -Larry "SHS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uxOQEkTgBHA.2384@tkmsftngp03... > > Personally, I have had ZERO problems with Windows 98 First Edition, andin > > fact avoid Win98SE like the plague due to the engineering problemswithin it > > that MS has never, and probably never will, fix. > Hmm that funny Win98 had more engineering problems that why Win98SE comeout in the first place > > > Win98FE, with all the appropriate patches, has always been the moststable > > version of Win9x I've ever used. > Lucky you it major headack for me in fact so was WinME hehe. > > >

No, no... Software Conflict. It sounds like something is conflicting with your SideWinder extensions/control panel. I'd first see if there is any other controller software installed, and try uninstalling it first. -Larry "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9v1jh0$ub6$[email hidden]... > Ah, yes I did mention my OS - Win 98 FE (not SE). > What sort of conflict, Larry? Where should I be looking? DeviceManager?? > I didn't notice any conflict in Device Manager when I had a quickglance.

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> Thanks for the reply. > > -- > > Rob. > My address is MUNGED!! > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:k4WQ7.27480$[email hidden]... > > That would be the System Tray extension. I would look for some sort of > > conflict. > > > > You didn't mention your OS version... > > > > -Larry > > > > "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9utrir$mhr$[email hidden]... > > > I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since > installing > > > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable > to > > > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel. > > > The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when

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> > try > > > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / > Game > > > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without > > opening > > > the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message > was > > > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers. > > > > > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > > > > > > > > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in > > > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d. > > > Registers: > > > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202 > > > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264 > > > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f > > > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656 > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c > > > Stack dump: > > > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000

0063f29c > > > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c0034045e > > > > > > I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for mygameport > > FF > > > wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version isnot > > > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the oldversion

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> 3 > > > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the > following > > > message occurred. > > > > > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in > > > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009. > > > Registers: > > > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286 > > > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8 > > > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f > > > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000 > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c > > > Stack dump: > > > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa

10097380 > > > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828bff77848 > > > > > > I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4Sidewinder

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> > > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system > > specs > > > are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX > (64MB), > > > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a. > > > Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rob. > > > My address is MUNGED!! > > > Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > >