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3D glasses vs. Fresnel lens for racing

7 posts by 7 people · 09 Dec 2001 17:05 UTC - 11 Dec 2001 08:06 UTC

Bruce Millar 09 Dec 2001 17:05 UTC#147811
After reading some of the discussions here and then buying an 8 1/2 by 11 inch fresnel lens at Staples office suplies, I am seriously thinking of ordering a large fresnel for my 20inch monitor. I mostly play driving sims (GPL mostly) but was wondering what others experiences are with fresnels and/or with the 3D glasses. It seems to me that the 3D glasses are too dependant on just the right software/hardware setup and that wearing them gets old. Having played with the small fresnel a bit, I find the depth of vision incredible, and its like looking through an actual windshield (very very cool). The only problem I have so far is that the edges of the picture are somewhat blurry, but will this go away when I have a much larger fresnel? (and, ...to those who have done this....what size lens to buy for a 20 inch mon.?).
If you have a monitor with super high refresh rates I would go for it. 140Hz is the minimum you will want to use at any resolution. Nvidia put out some good 3d stereo drivers for their video cards but they only work in Win 95 - ME. Driving GPL with them looks pretty amazing but your fillrate needs will double and processor use also jumps a lot when in stereo mode. I wish the FOV patch was out while I still had 98 installed would have looked good IMO. "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> After reading some of the discussions here and then buying an 8 1/2 by > 11 inch fresnel lens at Staples office suplies, I am seriously > thinking of ordering a large fresnel for my 20inch monitor. I mostly > play driving sims (GPL mostly) but was wondering what others > experiences are with fresnels and/or with the 3D glasses. It seems to > me that the 3D glasses are too dependant on just the right > software/hardware setup and that wearing them gets old. Having played > with the small fresnel a bit, I find the depth of vision incredible, > and its like looking through an actual windshield (very very cool). > The only problem I have so far is that the edges of the picture are > somewhat blurry, but will this go away when I have a much larger > fresnel? (and, ...to those who have done this....what size lens to > buy for a 20 inch mon.?).
If you got an Nvidia video card then that's all it takes as far as hardware goes. Nvidia driver has stereovision builtin with an interface-software driver from its website. Racing in stereovision will get you much more immersed, GPL, N4, Heat are all excellent in stereovision. GPL graphic is dated but in stereo it still gives you the wow factor, it's a whole new game with stereovision. KB "Bruce Millar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> After reading some of the discussions here and then buying an 8 1/2 by > 11 inch fresnel lens at Staples office suplies, I am seriously > thinking of ordering a large fresnel for my 20inch monitor. I mostly > play driving sims (GPL mostly) but was wondering what others > experiences are with fresnels and/or with the 3D glasses. It seems to > me that the 3D glasses are too dependant on just the right > software/hardware setup and that wearing them gets old. Having played > with the small fresnel a bit, I find the depth of vision incredible, > and its like looking through an actual windshield (very very cool). > The only problem I have so far is that the edges of the picture are > somewhat blurry, but will this go away when I have a much larger > fresnel? (and, ...to those who have done this....what size lens to > buy for a 20 inch mon.?).
Bruce, This fresnel approach has me intrigued. Here's an interesting link I found on the web: http://www.rickleephoto.com/rlcoll.htm cheers, David Bruce Millar <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> After reading some of the discussions here and then buying an 8 1/2 by > 11 inch fresnel lens at Staples office suplies, I am seriously > thinking of ordering a large fresnel for my 20inch monitor. I mostly > play driving sims (GPL mostly) but was wondering what others > experiences are with fresnels and/or with the 3D glasses. It seems to > me that the 3D glasses are too dependant on just the right > software/hardware setup and that wearing them gets old. Having played > with the small fresnel a bit, I find the depth of vision incredible, > and its like looking through an actual windshield (very very cool). > The only problem I have so far is that the edges of the picture are > somewhat blurry, but will this go away when I have a much larger > fresnel? (and, ...to those who have done this....what size lens to > buy for a 20 inch mon.?).
I use the Groucho system: http://www.worldwideposters.com/lf/bt-0184.jpg works just as well, and a lot cheaper ;) Ice D "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9v0adi$q2b$[email hidden]... > Bruce, > > This fresnel approach has me intrigued. Here's an interesting link Ifound
Quoted text (25 lines)> on the web: > > http://www.rickleephoto.com/rlcoll.htm > > cheers, > David > > > Bruce Millar <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > After reading some of the discussions here and then buying an 8 1/2 by > > 11 inch fresnel lens at Staples office suplies, I am seriously > > thinking of ordering a large fresnel for my 20inch monitor. I mostly > > play driving sims (GPL mostly) but was wondering what others > > experiences are with fresnels and/or with the 3D glasses. It seems to > > me that the 3D glasses are too dependant on just the right > > software/hardware setup and that wearing them gets old. Having played > > with the small fresnel a bit, I find the depth of vision incredible, > > and its like looking through an actual windshield (very very cool). > > The only problem I have so far is that the edges of the picture are > > somewhat blurry, but will this go away when I have a much larger > > fresnel? (and, ...to those who have done this....what size lens to > > buy for a 20 inch mon.?). > >
I used one of these a while back. It was made for 17" monitors. The main benefit I had was reduced eye fatigue, as it allows your eyes to focus about 4 to 6 feet away instead of 2 to 3. Also reduces glare a great deal. I borrowed this one from my boss. I never found any for sale that were less than $175 or so, and I never found any made for larger monitors. You could probably DIY for less, if you can find a good lens. The cheap plastic fresnel lenses you can buy from Edmunds DO NOT work well for this. Gerald "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<9v0adi$q2b$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (26 lines)> Bruce, > > This fresnel approach has me intrigued. Here's an interesting link I found > on the web: > > http://www.rickleephoto.com/rlcoll.htm > > cheers, > David > > > Bruce Millar <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > After reading some of the discussions here and then buying an 8 1/2 by > > 11 inch fresnel lens at Staples office suplies, I am seriously > > thinking of ordering a large fresnel for my 20inch monitor. I mostly > > play driving sims (GPL mostly) but was wondering what others > > experiences are with fresnels and/or with the 3D glasses. It seems to > > me that the 3D glasses are too dependant on just the right > > software/hardware setup and that wearing them gets old. Having played > > with the small fresnel a bit, I find the depth of vision incredible, > > and its like looking through an actual windshield (very very cool). > > The only problem I have so far is that the edges of the picture are > > somewhat blurry, but will this go away when I have a much larger > > fresnel? (and, ...to those who have done this....what size lens to > > buy for a 20 inch mon.?).
JS 11 Dec 2001 08:06 UTC↳ reply to Kirk House#147406
Does it need a special set of glasses or will any do? JensSchumi On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:00:34 -0800, "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>If you have a monitor with super high refresh rates I would go for it. >140Hz is the minimum you will want to use at any resolution. Nvidia put out >some good 3d stereo drivers for their video cards but they only work in Win >95 - ME. Driving GPL with them looks pretty amazing but your fillrate needs >will double and processor use also jumps a lot when in stereo mode. I wish >the FOV patch was out while I still had 98 installed would have looked good >IMO.
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