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WSC? vapourware??? ahven't seen an update for ages.

They are still working hard on it. Last night until 4:00am in the morning! We have a series in our news section detailing what they've been up to here: http://www.simbin.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c14d0a61d7dffff;act=SF;f=14 "Cyril Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9v36rs$r08$[email hidden]... > WSC? vapourware??? > > ahven't seen an update for ages. > >

They are still working *** it. Last night until 4:00am in the morning! We have a series in our news section detailing what they've been up to here: http://www.simbin.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c14d0a61d7dffff

The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular anything. Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? Whether or not WSC will see the light of day is uncertain at the moment. There is an information stop in effect, so we just don't know for certain either way. It is, however, not vapourware. It does exist in some unfinished shape or form and this form does represent a substantial investment on the part of the West brothers (both financial and in man-hours). It's not up to anyone to bagatellise this commitment because they cannot control their impatience. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Cyril Ma" wrote... > WSC? vapourware??? > > ahven't seen an update for ages.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular anything. > Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? >So what's your stake ? Why can't people ask simple questions ? Do you think it may reduce the likelihood of the game being released ? Get a life.

Yeah Jan...you got a massive chip on that there shoulder of yours....:( Keep quiet next time. Morgan

Nothing, I just got annoyed at the same old simple question coupled to the same old insinuation. 4th time in two days in the perhaps 5% of total RAS posts I read. I don't know if the Wests give a rats arse about this type of comment so their effect on the release are, again, unknown. I can only assure you I wouldn't much care for them if I was in their shoes. As for my life, there's enough of it to prevent me from spending as much time on my sim hobby as I would like, thank you very much. Have a nice day, Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "redTed" wrote... > <snip> > So what's your stake ? > Why can't people ask simple questions ? Do you think it may > reduce the likelihood of the game being released ? > Get a life.

"redTed" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:09aR7.35458$[email hidden]... > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote inmessage > news:[email hidden]... > > The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particularanything.

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> > Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? > > > So what's your stake ? > Why can't people ask simple questions ? Do you think it may reduce the > likelihood of the game being released ? > Get a life. >

He already has one. And a very good one, if I may add. Though it does have a few miles on the thingymajig. :^) /Jens

Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote on 10 Dec 2001: <snip> > Whether or not WSC will see the light of day is uncertain at the > moment. That statement worries me. It's the first time for a long time I've seen anyone (in a serious post, anyway) casting doubt on *if*, rather than *when* the game will come out. > There is an information stop in effect, so we just don't > know for certain either way. Well, if whoever is doing the stopping is listening, damn well unstop it! No-one's expecting reams of information - but nothing at all is over the top. Even "things are progressing nicely, but we can't honestly say how long it'll take" would do. Total silence helps no-one. > It is, however, not vapourware. It > does exist in some unfinished shape or form<snip> I'm sure it does - I've seen enough to be convinced of that. But all kinds of games got that far, and were never released. -- Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

I'm having a hard time deciding if that was sarcasm on your part or if you're actually arrogant enough to think you could bring about a change in my attitude on this newsgroup. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Morgan Boof" wrote...

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> Yeah Jan...you got a massive chip on that there shoulder > of yours....:( > > Keep quiet next time. > > Morgan > >

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:20:17 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular anything. >Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? I partly disagree - they don't owe us anything indeed, but wouldn't it be -nice- if they gave us a status update once in a while on their website? Estimated release date, maybe a programmers diary, some screenies.. at one point they were so close to the community, chris even came to our lan party in holland for two days to tell us all about wsc and to get feedback from the community, and now we haven't heard a thing for months. Rumors here, rumors there, but no info directly from the West Brothers. I wish them all the best in the development of WSC, but they know how anxious the community is looking forward to WSC, and surely they must understand that the information stop is annoying for us, and you can't blame people for asking about the current status of WSC - even though they should check RAS more regularely to see its being asked every day :) Andre

>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote > Whether or not WSC will see the light of day is uncertain at the moment. > There is an information stop in effect, so we just don't know for certain > either way. It is, however, not vapourware. It does exist in someunfinished > shape or form and this form does represent a substantial investment on the > part of the West brothers (both financial and in man-hours). It's not upto > anyone to bagatellise this commitment because they cannot control their > impatience. FAQ!! -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Holy crap. You sort of kind of disagreed with Jan. David G FIsher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:20:17 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular anything. > >Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? > > I partly disagree - they don't owe us anything indeed, but wouldn't it > be -nice- if they gave us a status update once in a while on their > website? Estimated release date, maybe a programmers diary, some > screenies.. at one point they were so close to the community, chris > even came to our lan party in holland for two days to tell us all > about wsc and to get feedback from the community, and now we haven't > heard a thing for months. > > Rumors here, rumors there, but no info directly from the West > Brothers. I wish them all the best in the development of WSC, but they > know how anxious the community is looking forward to WSC, and surely > they must understand that the information stop is annoying for us, and > you can't blame people for asking about the current status of WSC - > even though they should check RAS more regularely to see its being > asked every day :) > > Andre

What does bagatellise mean? As you know, I'm rather stupid and I couldn't find it in the American Heritage Dictionary. David G Fisher "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular anything. > Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? > > Whether or not WSC will see the light of day is uncertain at the moment. > There is an information stop in effect, so we just don't know for certain > either way. It is, however, not vapourware. It does exist in someunfinished > shape or form and this form does represent a substantial investment on the > part of the West brothers (both financial and in man-hours). It's not upto

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> anyone to bagatellise this commitment because they cannot control their > impatience. > > Jan. > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > "Cyril Ma" wrote... > > WSC? vapourware??? > > > > ahven't seen an update for ages. > >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > What does bagatellise mean? As you know, I'm rather stupid and I couldn't > find it in the American Heritage Dictionary. Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the arse) post from DGF. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a nice escape route you use. Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know what's a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you have anything to say here except the same old boring routine. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Wrong again. I have no idea what bagatellise means, and I actually did look it up in the AMH dictionary. David G Fisher "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DGdR7.6288$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > What does bagatellise mean? As you know, I'm rather stupid and Icouldn't

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So, what does it mean then? (I honestly don't know either) "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DGdR7.6288$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > What does bagatellise mean? As you know, I'm rather stupid and Icouldn't

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Isnt' Baggette a French Bread? that's as close as I can get... dave henrie "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EweR7.297828$[email hidden]... > Wrong again. > > I have no idea what bagatellise means, and I actually did look it up inthe

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> AMH dictionary. > > David G Fisher > > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:DGdR7.6288$[email hidden]... > > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > What does bagatellise mean? As you know, I'm rather stupid and I > couldn't > > > find it in the American Heritage Dictionary. > > > > > > Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the > > arse) post from DGF. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a > > nice escape route you use. > > > > > > Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know > what's > > a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess

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In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >It's not up to >anyone to bagatellise Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or 8 online dictionaries... I give up - what does it mean? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the arse) post from Eldred. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a nice escape route you use. Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know what's a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you have anything to say here except the same old boring routine. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >It's not up to > >anyone to bagatellise > > > Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> > > Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or 8 online dictionaries...

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> give up - what does it mean? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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You should use a real English dictionary instead of American English...in which case you would find out bagatelle means a trifling sum...therefore to bagatellise (sic) would likely mean to trivialise. Marc "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EweR7.297828$[email hidden]... > Wrong again. > > I have no idea what bagatellise means, and I actually did look it up inthe

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> AMH dictionary. > > David G Fisher > > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:DGdR7.6288$[email hidden]... > > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > What does bagatellise mean? As you know, I'm rather stupid and I > couldn't > > > find it in the American Heritage Dictionary. > > > > > > Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the > > arse) post from DGF. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a > > nice escape route you use. > > > > > > Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know > what's > > a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess

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What exactly is your problem? Are you better than all of us here? It must be hard for you to make friends. I'm sure I'm opening a big can of worms here, but really, a little less arrogance will get you a long ways, pal. Ryan

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > Wrong again. > > I have no idea what bagatellise means, and I actually did look it up in the > AMH dictionary. Welcome to the Alex Zanardi school of European secondary language English. :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

don't say anything, if you dont' have anything constructive to say.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:41:08 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Holy crap. You sort of kind of disagreed with Jan. David, you just made me sort of kind of smile.. don't ever do that again. Andre >David G FIsher

"Cyril Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9v4hc2$e19$[email hidden]... > don't say anything, if you dont' have anything constructive to say. So if the best you've got to say is "WSC? Vapourware" - which has already been posted a dozen times in as many days - perhaps you should shut your trap - because the rest of us are sick of hearing it and are bright enough to get out there and found out whats going on ourselves Doug

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> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:20:17 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular anything. > >Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? > > I partly disagree - they don't owe us anything indeed, but wouldn't it > be -nice- if they gave us a status update once in a while on their > website? Estimated release date, maybe a programmers diary, some > screenies.. at one point they were so close to the community, chris > even came to our lan party in holland for two days to tell us all > about wsc and to get feedback from the community, and now we haven't > heard a thing for months.

However much you might want to see the above things - I can assure you that Chris and Tony probably want to show you them just as much - but they cant - end of story. We've already seen more screenies, movies and interviews than any other title - to whats the problem anyway? Doug

www.simbin.com For all your sim needs! "Ryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PXhR7.3396$[email hidden]... > What exactly is your problem? Are you better than all of us here? Itmust > be hard for you to make friends. I'm sure I'm opening a big can of worms > here, but really, a little less arrogance will get you a long ways, pal. > > Ryan > >

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:40:15 -0000, "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote: >However much you might want to see the above things - I can assure you that >Chris and Tony probably want to show you them just as much - but they cant - >end of story. SO many people allways giving me cryptic 'I know a lot about WSC but I can't tell you anything' answers out there.. I've got the feeling I'm the only one who doesn't have a beta version :) >We've already seen more screenies, movies and interviews than any other >title - to whats the problem anyway? As I said, in the beginning Chris and Tony were close to the community, open for feedback and keeping us updated, and I think that worked well, everybody was very enthousiastic about WSC. But then there was this information stop - haven't heard anything about WSC for months, except for a lot of rumours from 'insiders' which allmost allways turned out to be horsecrap. So.. just don't be surprised about the daily WSC status posts here. And you can't blame people for asking. Andre >Doug

> So.. just don't be surprised about the daily WSC status posts here. > And you can't blame people for asking. > > Andre But you can if 3 posts down exactly the same bloody question gets asked. Doug

But you can if 3 posts down exactly the same ***y question gets asked. Doug

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> >It's not up to > >anyone to bagatellise > > > Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> > > Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or > 8 online dictionaries... I give up - what does it > mean?

Ooops... a gallicism. If my old English teacher reads this post I'm dead meat!! ;-) In fact both the noun and the verb are gallicisms in my language (Dutch) too. A bagatelle is something of little importance, something one mustn't take into account. So to bagatellise is to overlook importance in order to be able to ignore. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

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> > Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the > arse) post from Eldred. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a > nice escape route you use. > > Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know what's > a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you > have anything to say here except the same old boring routine.

OMG, how funny! You should know by now how much most people hate having their contradictions aired. I know this will bring flames galore. -- Fester > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >It's not up to > > >anyone to bagatellise > > > > > > Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> > > > > Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or 8 online dictionaries... > I > > give up - what does it mean? > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank - under construction... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I believe this thread's post was a joke......... -John Douglas Ellison <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9v4pca$d19jn$[email hidden]...

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> > So.. just don't be surprised about the daily WSC status posts here. > > And you can't blame people for asking. > > > > Andre > > But you can if 3 posts down exactly the same bloody question gets asked. > > Doug > > >

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>> So.. just don't be surprised about the daily WSC status posts here. >> And you can't blame people for asking. >> >> Andre > >But you can if 3 posts down exactly the same bloody question gets asked. > >Doug

And that's why I added people should read RAS more before posting ;) Andre

>"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote > You should use a real English dictionary instead of American English...in > which case you would find out bagatelle means a trifling sum...thereforeto > bagatellise (sic) would likely mean to trivialise. Hehe, touch�. It was a fun play with words. Everybody got it except DGF, of course. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the > arse) post from Eldred. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It'sa > nice escape route you use. > > > Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I knowwhat's > a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you > have anything to say here except the same old boring routine. STALKER! hehe -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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>David G Fisher wrote: >> >> Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the >> arse) post from Eldred. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a >> nice escape route you use. >> >> Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know what's >> a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you >> have anything to say here except the same old boring routine. > > >OMG, how funny! You should know by now how much most people hate having >their contradictions aired. I know this will bring flames galore. >

Chuck, you're kidding, right? What did I contradict? And how in the world did I flame ANYONE, least of all DGF??? Did someone forge a post from me, or what? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the >arse) post from Eldred. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It's a >nice escape route you use. > > >Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I know what's >a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you >have anything to say here except the same old boring routine. > > > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> >It's not up to >> >anyone to bagatellise >> >> >> Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> >> >> Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or 8 online dictionaries... >I >> give up - what does it mean? >> >> Eldred

What the FUCK are you talking about??? You didn't know what it meant *either*. Besides, how did you decide that I flamed ANYONE with my question, let alone YOU???? Remember when I mentioned you made unprovoked attacks? Why do you DO that, David...? I never said anything to you, or about you... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

And Eldred. And Scott. And Dave. And possibly Olav. And probably many others who didn't reply. You're wrong........again. David G Fisher "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hwqR7.10592$[email hidden]... > >"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote > > You should use a real English dictionary instead of AmericanEnglish...in

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> > which case you would find out bagatelle means a trifling sum...therefore > to > > bagatellise (sic) would likely mean to trivialise. > > > Hehe, touch�. It was a fun play with words. Everybody got it except DGF, > of course. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

You must of not read this thread completely. Neither of us knew waht bagatellise meant, right? We both asked Jan to explain. All I did in my reply to you was copy and paste ymenard's response to my question to Jan. I replaced "DGF" with "Eldred". I did that to give you yet another example of the way things really work around here. I thought you'd get the joke, but apparently you missed ymenard's reply to me. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <g%gR7.298028$[email hidden]>, "David G > Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Yet-another grunt neanderthalesque (you can shove your dictionary up the > >arse) post from Eldred. when !=Arguments then Flame_over_language. It'sa > >nice escape route you use. > > > > > >Anybody using a little common sense understood what he meant, I knowwhat's

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> >a bagatelle and it's obvious what he meant by that. But hey, I guess you > >have anything to say here except the same old boring routine. > > > > > > > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" > >> <[email hidden]> writes: > >> > >> >It's not up to > >> >anyone to bagatellise > >> > >> > >> Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> > >> > >> Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or 8 online

dictionaries... > >I > >> give up - what does it mean? > >> > >> Eldred > > What the FUCK are you talking about??? You didn't know what it meant*either*. > Besides, how did you decide that I flamed ANYONE with my question, letalone > YOU???? > Remember when I mentioned you made unprovoked attacks? Why do you DOthat,

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> David...? I never said anything to you, or about you... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

It was a joke. I think Eldred understands now. David G Fisher "Ryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PXhR7.3396$[email hidden]... > What exactly is your problem? Are you better than all of us here? Itmust > be hard for you to make friends. I'm sure I'm opening a big can of worms > here, but really, a little less arrogance will get you a long ways, pal. > > Ryan > >

David, It "sounded" quite serious, I can see how it could be taken the wrong way. Actually I struggle to see how it can be taken the "right way". I guess thats the problem with written text, hard to see the emphasis. Ash "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M1uR7.298889$[email hidden]...

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> You must of not read this thread completely. > > Neither of us knew waht bagatellise meant, right? > > We both asked Jan to explain. > > All I did in my reply to you was copy and paste ymenard's response to my > question to Jan. I replaced "DGF" with "Eldred". > > I did that to give you yet another example of the way things really work > around here. I thought you'd get the joke, but apparently you missed > ymenard's reply to me. > > David G Fisher > >

In article <M1uR7.298889$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >You must of not read this thread completely. > >Neither of us knew waht bagatellise meant, right? > That's what I said.

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>We both asked Jan to explain. > >All I did in my reply to you was copy and paste ymenard's response to my >question to Jan. I replaced "DGF" with "Eldred". > >I did that to give you yet another example of the way things really work >around here. I thought you'd get the joke, but apparently you missed >ymenard's reply to me. > >David G Fisher >

When you consider that messages don't always hit your newsgroup server in the correct order, you often see an 'answer' before the original question. So yes, I saw your statement before I was Frank's. Still don't think it's funny, though. Everyone in this group knows that you and Frank don't like each other. Why do you have to continually draw attention to it, and draw others into it? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

When I get accused of things, I tend to defend myself if they are untrue. You recently accused me of provoking negative responses from people by jumping into GPL threads and instigating. Through google.com, I gave you proof that wasn't true. I gave you some more proof in this thread in an unconventional way. Sorry you didn't get the point. David G Fisher (loves double standards) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <M1uR7.298889$[email hidden]>, "David G > Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >You must of not read this thread completely. > > > >Neither of us knew waht bagatellise meant, right? > > > > That's what I said. > > >We both asked Jan to explain. > > > >All I did in my reply to you was copy and paste ymenard's response to my > >question to Jan. I replaced "DGF" with "Eldred". > > > >I did that to give you yet another example of the way things really work > >around here. I thought you'd get the joke, but apparently you missed > >ymenard's reply to me. > > > >David G Fisher > > > > When you consider that messages don't always hit your newsgroup server in

the > correct order, you often see an 'answer' before the original question. Soyes, > I saw your statement before I was Frank's. Still don't think it's funny, > though. > Everyone in this group knows that you and Frank don't like each other.Why do

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> you have to continually draw attention to it, and draw others into it? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:[email hidden]...

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> "EldredP" wrote... > > >It's not up to > > >anyone to bagatellise > > > > > > Damn, where's that dictionary...?<g> > > > > Hmm. I couldn't find "bagatellise" in about 7 or > > 8 online dictionaries... I give up - what does it > > mean? > > Ooops... a gallicism. If my old English teacher reads this post I'm

dead > meat!! ;-) > > In fact both the noun and the verb are gallicisms in my language(Dutch) > too. A bagatelle is something of little importance, something onemustn't > take into account. So to bagatellise is to overlook importance inorder to > be able to ignore. >This is actually quite funny (in a sad kind of way). I never even thought about that word when I read Jan's post. In Danish the word is "bagatellisere" from "bagatel" from French. So a word easily understood by most Europeans, who speak several languages, and by Canadians, is the source of a minor flame war. As a bonus, I give you: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=bagatelle /Jens, trist

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > When I get accused of things, I tend to defend myself if they are untrue. When I see others using blatant boring political-type rhetoric for the sake of personal satisfaction, I pity them for the sake of humanity. In this NG, it's often you. Where's the F1RC patch, btw? -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

In article <J3xR7.298944$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >When I get accused of things, I tend to defend myself if they are untrue. >You recently accused me of provoking negative responses from people by >jumping into GPL threads and instigating. Through google.com, I gave you >proof that wasn't true. Only for the last 4 months... >I gave you some more proof in this thread in an >unconventional way. Sorry you didn't get the point. > >David G Fisher (loves double standards) I'm sure you do, David. I still don't think you're as innocent as you make yourself out to be. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <J3xR7.298944$[email hidden]>, "David G > Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >When I get accused of things, I tend to defend myself if they are untrue. > >You recently accused me of provoking negative responses from people by > >jumping into GPL threads and instigating. Through google.com, I gave you > >proof that wasn't true. > > Only for the last 4 months...

I only went back and checked the last four months. You could of gone back as far as you liked. David G Fisher

David G Fisher wrote:

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> > > >jumping into GPL threads and instigating. Through google.com, I gave you > > >proof that wasn't true. > > > > Only for the last 4 months... > > I only went back and checked the last four months. You could of gone back as > far as you liked.

You did it again a few weeks ago, but who's counting? :) -- Pat Dotson

I just gave a short opinion on why Papyrus shouldn't make GPL2. I didn't try to instigate. :-o David G Fisher "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > > >jumping into GPL threads and instigating. Through google.com, I gaveyou > > > >proof that wasn't true. > > > > > > Only for the last 4 months... > > > > I only went back and checked the last four months. You could of goneback as > > far as you liked. > > You did it again a few weeks ago, but who's counting? :) > > -- > Pat Dotson

Ubi is helping papyrus patch the tire model in GPL. When they get that sorted out, they'll finish the F1RC patch. The former is needed MUCH more than the latter. David G Fisher "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xKyR7.12157$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > When I get accused of things, I tend to defend myself if they areuntrue. > > When I see others using blatant boring political-type rhetoric for thesake > of personal satisfaction, I pity them for the sake of humanity. In thisNG,

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> it's often you. > > > Where's the F1RC patch, btw? > > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

GOSH!! Even bigger and more shocking: You said something that was.... - funny! :-) ed_ "David G Fisher" wrote:

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> Holy crap. You sort of kind of disagreed with Jan. > > David G FIsher > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:20:17 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >The West brothers don't owe us as a whole and you in particular

anything.

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> > >Not a game, not information, not a damn thing. -'k? > > > > I partly disagree - they don't owe us anything indeed, but wouldn't it > > be -nice- if they gave us a status update once in a while on their > > website? Estimated release date, maybe a programmers diary, some > > screenies.. at one point they were so close to the community, chris > > even came to our lan party in holland for two days to tell us all > > about wsc and to get feedback from the community, and now we haven't > > heard a thing for months. > > > > Rumors here, rumors there, but no info directly from the West > > Brothers. I wish them all the best in the development of WSC, but they > > know how anxious the community is looking forward to WSC, and surely > > they must understand that the information stop is annoying for us, and > > you can't blame people for asking about the current status of WSC - > > even though they should check RAS more regularely to see its being > > asked every day :) > > > > Andre > >