I thought this was interesting to look through:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=author:chris.west%40ukonline.co.uk+
;)
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Google Groups archive back to 1981 prompts r.a.s. nostalgia
David Buttery noted Google's Usenet archive now reached back to 1981 and joked about missing r.a.s. milestones. Members dug up their oldest posts, the first GPL rumours from 1996 and ymenard's early 'Indytrack' posts. Phil Lee found the first mention of GPLRank, and Uwe Schuerkamp and others recounted its origins, crediting Don Scurlock with the handicap idea.
community/metaGrand Prix Legends
Automated summary.
The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way
back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a
little timeline of "significant events":
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html
That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?:
* First mention of Grand Prix Legends (the game, not the shop) - in
fido7.su.game.news on 25th Feb 1997, a fortnight before its debut
here on ras!:
Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
* First mention of VROC by name on 10th Sept 1998 (by ymenard):
Message-ID: <6t9vog$[email hidden]>#1/1
* First mention of Grand Prix 2 (excluding hypothetical posts) on 4th
Jan 1994:
Message-ID: <2gbrl0$[email hidden]>
* First mention of NASCAR Racing on 19th July 1994:
Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
* First mention of WSC on 8th Jan 2000:
Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1
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The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way
back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a
little timeline of "significant events":
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html
That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?:
* First mention of Grand Prix Legends (the game, not the shop) - in
fido7.su.game.news on 25th Feb 1997, a fortnight before its debut
here on ras!:
* First mention of VROC by name on 10th Sept 1998 (by ymenard):
* First mention of Grand Prix 2 (excluding hypothetical posts) on 4th
Jan 1994:
* First mention of NASCAR Racing on 19th July 1994:
* First mention of WSC on 8th Jan 2000:
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David Buttery heeft geschreven in bericht ...
The first rumors of GPL already started mid 1996
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=nl&threadm=4oji0h%24rsk%40darkstar.UCSC
.EDU&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dhistoric%2Bracing%2Bsim%26hl%3Dnl%26btnG%3D
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>The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way >back to 1981, > >That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?: > >* First mention of Grand Prix Legends (the game, not the shop) - in >fido7.su.game.news on 25th Feb 1997, a fortnight before its debut >here on ras!: > >Message-ID: <[email hidden]> >Yeah, I noticed that too. It's pretty cool...that, and the fact that I've
never lived in a world without usenet. Heh.
You've also forgotten, though, the first mention of GPL on RAS that I could
find...
message ID [email hidden] .
(And what was funny was the oldest post that showed before I clicked 'show
all posts' to include 'repeated' posts, turned out to be the 3rd post with
GPL... "only hope it runs as smoothly as ICR2 (nascar2 too choppy on my
system!)"...well...we found that out the hard way, eh? =)
Milhouse
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> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > little timeline of "significant events": > > http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html > > That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?: > > * First mention of Grand Prix Legends (the game, not the shop) - in > fido7.su.game.news on 25th Feb 1997, a fortnight before its debut > here on ras!: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > > * First mention of VROC by name on 10th Sept 1998 (by ymenard): > > Message-ID: <6t9vog$[email hidden]>#1/1 > > * First mention of Grand Prix 2 (excluding hypothetical posts) on 4th > Jan 1994: > > Message-ID: <2gbrl0$[email hidden]> > > * First mention of NASCAR Racing on 19th July 1994: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > > * First mention of WSC on 8th Jan 2000: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 > > -- > Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which > deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.comAll the way back to 1981?
Isn't that when the West Brothers first announced WSC?
:)
Don Burnette
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> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > little timeline of "significant events": > > http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html > > That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?:Hey, thanks for the nostalgia. It was interesting to see my old messages
from 1993, and the "problems" I had back then (like struggling with
framerate in ICR1)...
Stephen
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> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > little timeline of "significant events": > > http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html > > That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?: > > * First mention of Grand Prix Legends (the game, not the shop) - in > fido7.su.game.news on 25th Feb 1997, a fortnight before its debut > here on ras!: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > > * First mention of VROC by name on 10th Sept 1998 (by ymenard): > > Message-ID: <6t9vog$[email hidden]>#1/1 > > * First mention of Grand Prix 2 (excluding hypothetical posts) on 4th > Jan 1994: > > Message-ID: <2gbrl0$[email hidden]> > > * First mention of NASCAR Racing on 19th July 1994: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > > * First mention of WSC on 8th Jan 2000: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 > > -- > Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which > deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
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> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way
> back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a
> little timeline of "significant events":
>
Facinating stuff. I pulled my oldest postings up. First post in Oct '95.
First smart-ass posting Dec 95 :)
Dale.
On 12 Dec 2001 00:38:41 GMT, [email hidden] (David
Buttery) wrote:
>The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way
>back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a
>little timeline of "significant events":
Thanks for the heads up David, this is really cool!
Andre
LOL, this was one of my first posts.. notice the last sentence :D
---------------------------
Last night I had a really really great time driving in GPL with the
force feedback on....
only to wake up and realize I had been dreaming.
The patch really has to come very soon now, I think it's not really
healthy now that I even start dreaming about it....
Why all the secrecy about the patch? Why doesn't papy keep us informed
on the status of the patch? We are all waiting months for it now,
surely they can release some kind of expected release date?
Why not keep us informed on the status like Jack does with his GPaL?
Andre
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CRAP!
I just found my posts from various newsgroups from way back in
september 1993. I had been on the internet for 7 days when I did my
first post.
Let's all hope employers around the world wont find out about this :)
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> On 12 Dec 2001 00:38:41 GMT, [email hidden] (David > Buttery) wrote: > > >The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > >back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > >little timeline of "significant events": > > Thanks for the heads up David, this is really cool! That sounds like a topic I would have jumped in on and told you to hang
on, be patient, Papy doesn't work hapazardly or quickly. :)
Now, what I really wanna know is....
When was the LAST post concerning folks who took a perfectly functioning
system for GPL and then got a tnt card because it got 3 to 5 more FPS in
Quake.(and of course this topic will include the subnote that none of those
who DID swap out TnT cards ever played Quake.) And then came crying to RAS
because GPL was broken after the swap.
dave henrie
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> > > LOL, this was one of my first posts.. notice the last sentence :D > > --------------------------- > Last night I had a really really great time driving in GPL with the > force feedback on.... > only to wake up and realize I had been dreaming. > The patch really has to come very soon now, I think it's not really > healthy now that I even start dreaming about it.... > > Why all the secrecy about the patch? Why doesn't papy keep us informed > on the status of the patch? We are all waiting months for it now, > surely they can release some kind of expected release date? > Why not keep us informed on the status like Jack does with his GPaL? > > Andre> Why not keep us informed on the status like Jack does with his GPaL?
ROFL!!!!! Forgot all about that blasted program...
Milhouse
Man... this latest addition to the Usenet archive is proving to be a serious
time waster. I was around when RAS started, but then signed off of RAS from
'96 until '98, so I missed the whole ymenard / Indyman thing. Now I've
gained some important insight into Francois' psyche!
Stephen
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> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > little timeline of "significant events": > > http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html > > That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?: > > * First mention of Grand Prix Legends (the game, not the shop) - in > fido7.su.game.news on 25th Feb 1997, a fortnight before its debut > here on ras!: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > > * First mention of VROC by name on 10th Sept 1998 (by ymenard): > > Message-ID: <6t9vog$[email hidden]>#1/1 > > * First mention of Grand Prix 2 (excluding hypothetical posts) on 4th > Jan 1994: > > Message-ID: <2gbrl0$[email hidden]> > > * First mention of NASCAR Racing on 19th July 1994: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > > * First mention of WSC on 8th Jan 2000: > > Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 > > -- > Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which > deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.comIn article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:
And scary. It's strange to look into the way you saw things years
ago...<whew!>
Eldred
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>On 12 Dec 2001 00:38:41 GMT, [email hidden] (David >Buttery) wrote: > >>The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way >>back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a >>little timeline of "significant events": > >Thanks for the heads up David, this is really cool! > >AndreAndre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote on 12 Dec
2001:
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> Why not keep us informed on the status like Jack does with his
> GPaL?
>
> Andre
I believe the West brothers are negotiating for a WSC version - hence
all the info-stops ;-)
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[email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) writes:
Looks incomplete, fortunally. My earliest post is from May 1991.
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> [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > > > On 12 Dec 2001 00:38:41 GMT, [email hidden] (David > > Buttery) wrote: > > > > >The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > > >back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > > >little timeline of "significant events": > > > > Thanks for the heads up David, this is really cool! > > CRAP! > > I just found my posts from various newsgroups from way back in > september 1993. I had been on the internet for 7 days when I did my > first post. > > Let's all hope employers around the world wont find out about this :)On 13 Dec 2001 02:06:21 +0100, [email hidden] (Asbj�rn
Bj�rnstad) wrote:
>Looks incomplete, fortunally. My earliest post is from May 1991.
>--
> -asbjxrn
/Me feels like a usenet newbie now :(
Andre
>"Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Man... this latest addition to the Usenet archive is proving to be aserious
> time waster. I was around when RAS started, but then signed off of RASfrom
> '96 until '98, so I missed the whole ymenard / Indyman thing. Now I've
> gained some important insight into Francois' psyche!
What happened happened. I was semi-conscious trolling.
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> Man... this latest addition to the Usenet archive is proving to be aserious
> time waster. I was around when RAS started, but then signed off ofRAS from
> '96 until '98, so I missed the whole ymenard / Indyman thing. NowI've
> gained some important insight into Francois' psyche!
>Wow! Following your advice I went looking for ymenard "The Indytrack
Guy". Oh, boy. Now I feel so HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY!!! :-D What a hoot.
Those early ymenard posts - and replies - are extremely funny. "Next
time I want to make people happy I will do nothing." Brilliant! :-)
We have all been young at some point, fortunately there was no place I
could make a fool of myself for posterity. Thanx, Yves. ;-)
/Jens
Don Burnette wrote:
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> All the way back to 1981?
> Isn't that when the West Brothers first announced WSC?
No.....that was the first time they said it would be delayed actually
:-)
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Stephen Ferguson wrote:
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> Man... this latest addition to the Usenet archive is proving to be a serious
> time waster. I was around when RAS started, but then signed off of RAS from
> '96 until '98, so I missed the whole ymenard / Indyman thing. Now I've
> gained some important insight into Francois' psyche!
Scary isn't it ? , bet you wished you hadn't looked.....:-)
Beers and cheers
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>"Jens H. Kruuse" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Those early ymenard posts - and replies - are extremely funny. "Next
> time I want to make people happy I will do nothing." Brilliant! :-)
There's some good prose behind all this. It sure ain't "good" trolling, but
heck if wanted to troll now, it would be pretty wicked (errr, some of you
may see that in the MHO news server since a couple of years).
> We have all been young at some point, fortunately there was no place I
> could make a fool of myself for posterity. Thanx, Yves. ;-)
Yes, I'm glad I gave to humanity hours and hours of entertainment for the
future <G>
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How about this, the first mention of the GPLRank site on RAS, posted by me
on 3rd June 2000:
"I just found a new GPL site, GPLRank. Tim Wheatley gave its details on his
site. The site features a database which calculates your GPL handicap from
your player.ini file and provides an online ranking system. Very clever!
Thanks to Uwe Schuerkamp for putting it together. Excellent work.
Unfortunately I am languishing in 46th place out of 52 so if all you
slowpokes out there could submit times it would make my handicap look less
bad. Eldred this means you!
Cheers
Phil
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My GPL Handicap is now -16.82 and I was around about 900th last time I
looked. I found the news on the Legends Central new page, a site which I
now run. Oh how things have changed.
Cheers
Phil
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> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way > back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a > little timeline of "significant events": > > http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html > > That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?: >On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:12:38 -0000, Phil Lee
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Yeah well, the word slipped, and what was intended to be a
"beta test" by some of my league members (Tim was racing with
us in the Screamers during those days if I recall correctly)
resulted in 100 new users on the first day!
I was rather stunned by so many people accessing the site, and
I vividly remember Don Scurlock asking if I was ready for the
"thousands of drivers" hitting it in a year from then. I never
thought we could end up at the 6,000+ accounts we have now,
around 1,000 of which are being used actively on any one day.
Wow.
Cheers,
uwe
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> > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> The Google Usenet archive ( http://groups.google.com ) now reaches way >> back to 1981, with (they say) 700 million posts. They've even given a >> little timeline of "significant events": >> >> http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html >> >> That's all very well, but where are these far more significant events?: >> > > How about this, the first mention of the GPLRank site on RAS, posted by me > on 3rd June 2000: > > > "I just found a new GPL site, GPLRank. Tim Wheatley gave its details on his > site. The site features a database which calculates your GPL handicap from > your player.ini file and provides an online ranking system. Very clever! > Thanks to Uwe Schuerkamp for putting it together. Excellent work. > > Unfortunately I am languishing in 46th place out of 52 so if all you > slowpokes out there could submit times it would make my handicap look less > bad. Eldred this means you!In article <[email hidden]>,
Uwe Schuerkamp <[email hidden]> writes:
Incidently, it should be pointed out that Don Scurlock was the genius who
originally came up with the idea of a handicap system indexed to the Papyrus
replays included with GPL. The idea was kicked around a bit and Uwe ran with
it to create GPLRank. Thanks to both especially on this first day of my
negative rank.
Don McCorkle
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>Yeah well, the word slipped, and what was intended to be a >"beta test" by some of my league members (Tim was racing with >us in the Screamers during those days if I recall correctly) >resulted in 100 new users on the first day! > >I was rather stunned by so many people accessing the site, and >I vividly remember Don Scurlock asking if I was ready for the >"thousands of drivers" hitting it in a year from then. I never >thought we could end up at the 6,000+ accounts we have now, >around 1,000 of which are being used actively on any one day.On 01 Jan 2002 14:18:48 GMT, [email hidden] (Woodie 83) wrote:
Congrats, good start of the new year :)
Andre
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>Incidently, it should be pointed out that Don Scurlock was the genius who >originally came up with the idea of a handicap system indexed to the Papyrus >replays included with GPL. The idea was kicked around a bit and Uwe ran with >it to create GPLRank. Thanks to both especially on this first day of my >negative rank. > > >Don McCorkleIn article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
(Woodie 83) writes:
>Incidently, it should be pointed out that Don Scurlock was the genius who
>originally came up with the idea of a handicap system indexed to the Papyrus
>replays included with GPL. The idea was kicked around a bit and Uwe ran with
>it to create GPLRank. Thanks to both especially on this first day of my
>negative rank.
Hell of a way to start the New Year, eh? :-)
Eldred
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