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a note about the F1 2001 pedal fix.

5 posts by 3 people · 13 Dec 2001 10:32 UTC - 14 Dec 2001 22:20 UTC

Xavier 13 Dec 2001 10:32 UTC#146897
"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Does this tweak affect other games using the MSFF? I'd like to try it, > but I drive everything. I guess it does not, at least for GPL and N4: I completely ruined my MSFF wheel (USB) calibration by fiddling with DXTweak on win98 but the two papy sims continue to work flawlessly. This is *not* the case for F1 2001 which can not even detect my brake pedal anymore. Note that this is neither a rant against DXTweak or the proposed fix. I just tried to tweak the controls after reading (a bit too quickly, I admit) the original post by Pat Dotson and in what future generations will widely regard as a bad move, I mistakenly set the "center" value for both pedal axes to zero, while "*close* to the *min* value" obviously (now) means 63-1 = 62. Guess it is time to clear calibration data and reinstall the wheel, then *carefully* use DXTweak again. Must...pay...more..attention...to...warnings (banging head against keyboard). OTOH, if anyone from EA reads this (and I know you are, just to get an easy laugh at us pathetic simmers), PLEASE fix the brain-dead controller settings logic (huge pedals "deadzone" and 50% sensitivity means linear steering, oh come on !) spoiling an otherwise excellent sim. I should not even *need* DXTweak, damnit. Xavier.
Xavier 13 Dec 2001 14:39 UTC↳ reply to Xavier#146920
"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I don't understand how you caused so much trouble! Neither do I. > Every time I restart my 'puter, I have to redo the DXTweak fix, as thevalues > have gone back to their original settings. > > I wish I _could_ make the change permanent!! You lucky guy. I wish the changes were _not_ permanent :-/ But, wait... maybe there is something there: it is indeed true that, every time I restart DXTweak, I get the same default values back (in DXTweak only, F1 2001 calibration remains broken). So, maybe in my case it is only something in F1 2001 that went wrong when I launched it after first fiddling with the DXTweak values. Instead of deinstalling/reinstalling the wheel tonight (and the dreaded Sidewinder 4 software), I will first try to reinstall F1 2001. Anyway, thank you for your helpful comment. (to be continued) Xavier.
Xavier 14 Dec 2001 10:37 UTC↳ reply to Xavier#146882
"Richard S Beckett" wrote >Try creating a new driver in F1 2001, and see how the > controls work for him. I believe that each driver has his > own configuration, so you could have different FF effects > for different people. Richard, I followed your suggestion and it saved me a reinstall of F1 2001. Thanks. In fact, I quickly discovered that the controller axes were not correctly assigned anymore for my first driver. So, the chain of events was this: 1. Install F1 2001 & patch 2. Define controller in F1 2001 3. Play the game and discover the annoying pedals "deadzone" while using split axis 4. Read about the fix and download DXTweak 5. Launch DXTweak without paying too much attention to the docs 6. Expertly ruin DX calibration settings 7. Launch F1 2001, realize the damage done 7b. (optional) Vow to always double-check the docs before executing such programs in the future 8. Try to adjust controller settings in F1 2001, losing the axes assignments in the process 9. Havoc & despair. The correct procedure is in fact 1. Install F1 2001 & patch 2. Define controller in F1 2001 3. Play the game to check that all axes are correctly assigned 4. Use DXTweak. My settings for MSFF wheel USB (min/center/max) are X: 0/511/1023 Y: 0/60/63 (DXTweak default: 0/511/1023) Z: don't bother R: 0/60/63 (DXTweak default: 0/31/63) + deadzone=2 for X and Y axis (0 everywhere else). Please note that unlike the calibration settings, the deadzone settings _will_ affect other sims such as GPL & N4. I found it very difficult not to crash under heavy braking in GPL when my X (steering) deadzone is reduced to 0. I am no alien, however. Please also note that it might be useful to go through the edit boxes in DXTweak using TAB to be sure that the new values are correctly written to the registry. Also leave the checkboxes in front of X/Y, Z and R checked at all times. 5. Launch F1 2001 and enjoy the drive. 6. Refrain from further fiddling with the control axes in F1 2001 as the new calibration settings make the pedal axes difficult to reassign. Now about making the changes permanent. On my computer (windows 98 + sidewinder software accompanying wheel), all changes made using DXTweak _are_ permanent even if when I relaunch the program, it always shows me the same old (default) values. In other words, the changes are permanent (still there after reboot etc.) until DXTweak is launched again . If your computer still loses the changes after a reboot, my guess would be that, for one reason or another, your registry (files) could be read-only. HTH, Xavier.
Maybe we should just ask them to fix the game :) -Larry "Xavier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vckoq$1u4$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > "Richard S Beckett" wrote > > >Try creating a new driver in F1 2001, and see how the > > controls work for him. I believe that each driver has his > > own configuration, so you could have different FF effects > > for different people. > > Richard, I followed your suggestion and it saved me a reinstall of F1
2001.
Quoted text (16 lines)> Thanks. > > In fact, I quickly discovered that the controller axes were not correctly > assigned anymore for my first driver. So, the chain of events was this: > > 1. Install F1 2001 & patch > 2. Define controller in F1 2001 > 3. Play the game and discover the annoying pedals "deadzone" while using > split axis > 4. Read about the fix and download DXTweak > 5. Launch DXTweak without paying too much attention to the docs > 6. Expertly ruin DX calibration settings > 7. Launch F1 2001, realize the damage done > 7b. (optional) Vow to always double-check the docs before executing such > programs in the future > 8. Try to adjust controller settings in F1 2001, losing the axes
assignments
Quoted text (19 lines)> in the process > 9. Havoc & despair. > > The correct procedure is in fact > > 1. Install F1 2001 & patch > 2. Define controller in F1 2001 > 3. Play the game to check that all axes are correctly assigned > 4. Use DXTweak. My settings for MSFF wheel USB (min/center/max) are > > X: 0/511/1023 > Y: 0/60/63 (DXTweak default: 0/511/1023) > Z: don't bother > R: 0/60/63 (DXTweak default: 0/31/63) > > + deadzone=2 for X and Y axis (0 everywhere else). Please note that unlike > the calibration settings, the deadzone settings _will_ affect other sims > such as GPL & N4. I found it very difficult not to crash under heavy > braking in GPL when my X (steering) deadzone is reduced to 0. I am no
alien, > however. Please also note that it might be useful to go through the edit > boxes in DXTweak using TAB to be sure that the new values are correctly > written to the registry. Also leave the checkboxes in front of X/Y, Z andR > checked at all times. > > 5. Launch F1 2001 and enjoy the drive. > 6. Refrain from further fiddling with the control axes in F1 2001 as thenew > calibration settings make the pedal axes difficult to reassign. > > Now about making the changes permanent. On my computer (windows 98 + > sidewinder software accompanying wheel), all changes made using DXTweak > _are_ permanent even if when I relaunch the program, it always shows methe > same old (default) values. In other words, the changes are permanent(still > there after reboot etc.) until DXTweak is launched again . If yourcomputer
Quoted text (7 lines)> still loses the changes after a reboot, my guess would be that, for one > reason or another, your registry (files) could be read-only. > > HTH, > Xavier. > >

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