TPTCC - Step by Step Setup Please?

I have my V5 underclocked and I can now run NASCAR Heat. First, I only got NASCAR Heat for the TPTCC. My friends, on the other hand, are jazzed to drive NASCAR. Will the TPTCC setup allow NASCAR Heat to support the NASCAR features that it originally had? I've been to the TPTCC files page, and I've grabbed a bunch of downloads. Carsets, the Multipatch, AI updates and carsets. The document is emphatic about installing the multi-patch first. So I have. Instructions then say to install the "DTM" patches after the multipatch. What does "DTM" stand for? Suggested steps for preparing NASCAR Heat for TPTCC? I think I have a copy of Cart II, is this required for the Portland track? I live in Portland and am particularly interested in that one. Anything else I need to understand? This is my second on-line sim, Porsche Unleashed had opponent cars that would pass through each other without damage or collision, at the option of the person who started the game. Assuming that collisions count, are there going to be races for beginners like me to learn to drive in traffic? I'd feel bad knocking someone out by accident. Thanks Larry

Getting Heat setup is somewhat complicated but once you get the groundwork done you can add literally dozens of mods at the clik of a button. First, the TPTCC and all other mods work completely separate from the Nascar core. So at any time you can launch Nascar, exit, hit the DTM icon run that, then load CART, IRL, DESERT racing, Old Pickup trucks, 70's muscle cars. etc etc. The only thing each mod shares are the tracks. The carsets, setups, menu's are all specific to each mod. DTM stands for Deutch Touring Masters or German Touring cars.(the years depicted in the DTM mod are 1994 & 1995. You have Mercedes, Alfa Romeo, and Opel...plus a few home-made BMW's and even a Dodge Stratus) (btw speedvision has been showing DTM races on weekends lately) You don't need any other titles for the tracks. The Portland track is converted from Cart: Precision Racing, not one of the Papyrus titles. (Papyrus has a unique track file format that makes it much tougher to convert those tracks for use with other sims.) Most of the new road-courses have come from a motorcycle sim, GP 500. ****** THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!! ******* I cannot stress enough how critical it is to have Nascr Heat installed on the default C:\ drive. While you CAN run heat from just about anywhere, the mod installers all look to the C:\ drive and your life will be full of white cars or Nascar drivers rather than Colorful Champcars, DTM cars etc. There are 3 patches for Nascar heat, the multipatch program was written by Jan Kohl I think and it applies the patches for you in the proper order. If it doesn't work, make sure you use all three patches in order. The TPTCC page has a link to a yahoo mailing list, if you join there you can get plenty of help from the many TPTCC members. A new season will start just after new year's I think, the schedule was just posted, but I haven't looked at it yet. If you dload new cars, just make sure you unzip them in the dtm folder which is inside NH. C:\program files\hasbro interactive\nascar heat\DTM The cars DO take damage when hitting each other or track obstructions. When the Aerodynamics are hurt it's not a problem, but if your suspension gets bent, it's tough to even crawl back to the pits. Right now the league is running practice races most everynight on a private server, plus there is a program called IRF that will allow you to join many NH races including DTM, CART, IRL etc. Most of us are new to DTM so we are all learning it as we go. Right now we have two classes, the fast guys...A class and the turtles like me in the B class. If we get many more drivers we may have to create a third division. Feel free to join in...we are all making plenty of mistakes right now.. dave henrie "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I have my V5 underclocked and I can now run NASCAR Heat. > > First, I only got NASCAR Heat for the TPTCC. My friends, > on the other hand, are jazzed to drive NASCAR. Will the > TPTCC setup allow NASCAR Heat to support the NASCAR features > that it originally had? > > I've been to the TPTCC files page, and I've grabbed a bunch > of downloads. Carsets, the Multipatch, AI updates and carsets. > The document is emphatic about installing the multi-patch first. > So I have. Instructions then say to install the "DTM" patches > after the multipatch. > > What does "DTM" stand for? > > Suggested steps for preparing NASCAR Heat for TPTCC? > > I think I have a copy of Cart II, is this required for > the Portland track? I live in Portland and am particularly > interested in that one. > > Anything else I need to understand? > > This is my second on-line sim, Porsche Unleashed had > opponent cars that would pass through each other without > damage or collision, at the option of the person who started > the game. Assuming that collisions count, are there going to > be races for beginners like me to learn to drive in traffic? > I'd feel bad knocking someone out by accident. > > Thanks > Larry

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> > Getting Heat setup is somewhat complicated but once you get the groundwork > done you can add literally dozens of mods at the clik of a button. > First, the TPTCC and all other mods work completely separate from the > Nascar core. So at any time you can launch Nascar, exit, hit the DTM icon > run that, then load CART, IRL, DESERT racing, Old Pickup trucks, 70's muscle > cars. etc etc. The only thing each mod shares are the tracks. The carsets, > setups, menu's are all specific to each mod.

That sounds pretty cool, but I don't see an icon. What I did: Install Heat to the default directory on drive C:, my system drive. I hate that. run the multipatch. Post question that started this thread. Check for presence of C:\program files\hasbro interactive\nascar heat\DTM It's not there. Run installation S/W in following order: DTM main installer DTM car updateDTM main installer DTM car update 2 DTM Alfa Patch DTM 1.1 patch Brno Donnington Mugello v1.1 Indy Road Course DTM 1.1 patch The DTM directory is now there, but no icons. < Snip >

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> ****** > THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!! > ******* > I cannot stress enough how critical it is to have Nascr Heat installed on > the default C:\ drive. While you CAN run heat from just about anywhere, > the mod installers all look to the C:\ drive and your life will be full of > white cars or Nascar drivers rather than Colorful Champcars, DTM cars etc.

I read this. I did an install of heat to default dir and hard drive. > There are 3 patches for Nascar heat, the multipatch program was written by > Jan Kohl I think and it applies the patches for you in the proper order. If > it doesn't work, make sure you use all three patches in order. Which patches are applied in the multipatch? One more question: Papy has always been credited with making very accurate sims. Why did you choose NASCAR Heat as the foundation for this series? Thanks Larry

"Larry Lindstrom" > > That sounds pretty cool, but I don't see an icon. Should have a separate icon on the desktop for the dtm mod. But I didn't see if you ran the nocd/track patch. If you don't have a run folder inside the NH main folder, then that could be mucking things up. If the nocd/tracks patch isn't making a run folder either rename your data folder or copy the data folder and name the copy to : run.

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> > What I did: > > Install Heat to the default directory on drive C:, my system > drive. I hate that. > > run the multipatch. > > Post question that started this thread. > > Check for presence of > > C:\program files\hasbro interactive\nascar heat\DTM

The DTM folder or any mod folder won't be added until you run the mod.exe. > > It's not there. > > Run installation S/W in following order: Ok make sure that NH was a full install, then run the no cd/track patch and check that it works without a cd. Once you get the Nascar install running without the need for the cd proceed as you outlined below.

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> > DTM main installer > DTM car updateDTM main installer > DTM car update 2 > DTM Alfa Patch > DTM 1.1 patch > Brno > Donnington > Mugello v1.1 > Indy Road Course > DTM 1.1 patch > > The DTM directory is now there, but no icons. > > < Snip > > > > Which patches are applied in the multipatch?

I haven't used the multipatch...Jan got it finished after I had the dtm mod already running and I didn't want to tempt fate...however many of our league members have used it with no problems...I 'think' it has the 3 patches, 1.1e, 1.3 and 1.5a. AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE 1.5A NOT THE ORIGINAL 1.5 PATCH. When you are done patch NH, you can go to the options screens and you'll see the version listed on the bottom right of the first options screen. > > One more question: > > Papy has always been credited with making very > accurate sims. Why did you choose NASCAR Heat as > the foundation for this series? We have used Papy sims for 6 years...most recently the N3 version which ran online VERY VERY well. We felt we had taken N3 as far as possible...most of the tracks were very familiar. The logical next step would have been Nascar 4 but there are some problems getting it ready. So far only 1 extra road course has been released, with another due by Xmas. And nobody has found a way to change the body shape yet. So once a few of our members sampled the DTM patch we did some testing and found it to be very good. The cars are more lively than N3 but not quite up to the N4 level. Warping seems to be a bit more problematic with Nascar Heat/dtm but we've run 22 drivers on the fat client and I think 26 on the updated thin client server. With more drivers than that signed up, we have decided on two levels (at least) we did that offline several years ago when N99 was the base sim for the tptcc patch. good luck dave henrie > > Thanks > Larry

Thanks Dave: I've got things running. Thanks. It would have been nice if someone had put the file names in step by step instructions. Can I just use RAS for my questions? TPTCC is on topic, discussion here might stimulate interest by a broader audience, and I hate those F***ing forums where you don't have nice things like threads grouped together, indeted for navigation and collapsed, spell checking, flexible search and other amenities found in newsgroups. Most important, you don't need to enable cookies for newsgroups. What road tracks are available? Where are they? Is Portland available? I've lived here all my life, and I'd like to take a spin at PIR. There was talk in the forum about a race at PIR. I see reference to a patch for Road Atlanta, but I don't see PIR or Road Atlanta among my choice of tracks when I start Heat. Thanks Larry Thanks Larry

And another thing Dave: I like the bumper cam view, but I want it up at eye-level. So I'm using that "Frame view" which gives me a good view of the road. I've never seen a race car with a digital tach. Is there an analog tach? Can the mirror, and instruments, be repositioned on the screen? Thanks Larry

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> > I haven't used the multipatch...Jan got it finished after I had the dtm > mod already running and I didn't want to tempt fate...however many of our > league members have used it with no problems...I 'think' it has the 3 > patches, 1.1e, 1.3 and 1.5a. AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE 1.5A NOT THE ORIGINAL > 1.5 PATCH. When you are done patch NH, you can go to the options screens > and you'll see the version listed on the bottom right of the first options > screen.

Those trying the multipatch with XP may want to exercise caution. On my machine at least, once I install the multipatch, NH won't start anymore because my machine gets detected as Windows 2000. The DTM mod runs without it though, although I haven't tried going online with it yet. Very cool add-on. :-) -- Fester

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> > Thanks Dave: > > I've got things running. Thanks. It would have > been nice if someone had put the file names in step > by step instructions. > > Can I just use RAS for my questions? TPTCC is on > topic, discussion here might stimulate interest by a > broader audience, and I hate those F***ing forums > where you don't have nice things like threads grouped > together, indeted for navigation and collapsed, > spell checking, flexible search and other amenities > found in newsgroups. > > Most important, you don't need to enable cookies > for newsgroups. > > What road tracks are available? Where are they?

Go here: http://www.hcmotorsports.com On their NH tracks page, they have Indy, Indy Road Course, Imola, Road Atlanta, Aardvark Park, & Portland. :-) -- Fester

"Larry Lindstrom"> Can I just use RAS for my questions? TPTCC is on > topic, discussion here might stimulate interest by a > broader audience, and I hate those F***ing forums > where you don't have nice things like threads grouped > together, indeted for navigation and collapsed, > spell checking, flexible search and other amenities > found in newsgroups. Yup I don't see why not. I have cable and even with that speed I too hate web based discussion forums. I'd much rather have the whole lot in my email/newsgroup reader, which is how I have the messages delivered, no threads but no web site either. > > Most important, you don't need to enable cookies > for newsgroups. > > What road tracks are available? Where are they? To install the individual tracks you just need to unzip the track.trk file into the RUN folder. The game will automatically add it to the track menu. Road courses available at this time are...(and I know of at least one more on the way) Portland(Cart: Precision Racing) Road Atlanta(SCGT) Brno(gp 500) Mugello(gp 500) Aardvark(scratch built) Sears Point Watkins Glen Donnington(gp 500) Assen (gp 500) and New Hampshire road course(small oval and some turns) But I don't think anyone has used NHrc yet Indy roadcourse(F1 2001) I 'think' that's all for now. I'm not sure where Road Atlanta is right now, I'll check the yahoo group and see where the website is... I have only been to one CART Champcar race in my life, it was several years ago at Portland, great fun. Only about an 8 hour drive to the track from Spokane Washington. dave henrie

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> > Is Portland available? I've lived here all my > life, and I'd like to take a spin at PIR. There was > talk in the forum about a race at PIR. I see > reference to a patch for Road Atlanta, but I don't > see PIR or Road Atlanta among my choice of tracks > when I start Heat. > > Thanks > Larry > > > > Thanks > Larry

Larry Lindstrom wrote: I've downloaded all the stuff from TPTCC, thank you Dave, and tracks from HC Motorsports, thanks Uncle Fester. I install, the drivers file from TPTCC, I assume this is the car files for the drivers that have registered. Before the race I can select a driver, but there is no graphic of the cars in that display, and no BMWs or Mercedes are listed, though I do see them in the race. I'd like to add myself, and a car, to my local copy of this file. How do I go about it? I suppose I'll register my intentions to race at TPTCC sometime soon. So I start a race at Portland. From the back. I'm working my way up through the AI and a couple of laps in, I suddenly get an track side camera view and a message box pops up with the title "In Race Summary". I restart and try again. Same thing. So I sit and watch this for several laps. It seems we are running under caution, messages roll by about some damaged cars. Finally, after several laps, the race starts up and I'm behind the wheel again, but the position board shows everyone is 3 laps ahead of me. Once more. Two or three laps in, I'm driving conservatively, near the back of the 39 car field, and the voice says something about a yellow flag as we enter single file onto the start of the front straight. We pass a car that's spinning along the right side of the track and the "In Race Summary" board pops up again, and I watch for a while, the cars are acting very strangely. Stopping and backing up. The race summary shows me as 18th, unless most of the field backed up past me, this is unlikely. After several laps I get board and quit. I saved the replay if this can help. So, what's happening? When can I get on line with you folks? Larry

ok first turn off the flags, that is what's causing the in-race sumary. Either you punted somebody or the AI crashed somewhere and the game threw a yellow flag. We can't use flags online, that is one of Heat's weaknesses. Plus we race in the Euro style mainly and try to avoid yellows. If there is an ABSOLUTE bollux we'll either restart or call a yellow with the chat function and group everyone up. Thats very rare tho.. That should be in the SETUP menu at the track. you'll have the option for hardcore/expert/easy , race length, etc...and there will be a toggle for flags, set that to none. Turn off the ghost mode. several of the homemade tracks have a problem with that... You should be running hardcore with tire/fuel wear set to 1x. Set the pack for 22 cars...at least one of the tracks..(donnington I think doesn't work well if you have a larger # of cars). Many of the addon cars DO NOT have a picture. So if you are scrolling down the list of cars, and you see a car name but no car/driver picture, don't sweat it. That's apparently a tough part to track down and most of the dtm cars have been submitted without car picts. As long as you see the Merc's, Opels, and Alfa's in the car list, you are ok. Now choosing your car. first scan the list of default car #'s. Those for the original Mercs.(the ones with pictures) If your car has the same # you'll have to add a digit to keep them separate. If there already is a #27 but you have that #, then in the text lines below we'll use # 927. This should be covered at the tptcc website, but just in case here is how you get YOUR car in the field. use windows explorer and navigate to the DTM folder inside of Heat. find the file drivers.txt, double clik on that to open it with notepad. Take a look at the format for each car. the append a similar group of lines to name your car don't worry if your drivers.txt doesn't match exactly. scroll down to the bottom, the last few entries may look like this: table Driver number 38 name Dave Henrie chassis alfa rank 1 race_image 100 body_style fcar end table Driver number 43 name Steve Lovas chassis opel race_image 100 body_style fcar end end type the exact same lines or cut and paste the last group. stick it so it's just above the last END. so for Larry Lindstrom(say #27 opel) it should look like this... ... end table Driver number 927 name Larry Lindstrom chassis opel race_image 100 body_style fcar end end Then when you boot up dtm you see your name listed and you will be able to drive your own car....PROVIDED YOU HAVE A CAR FILE IN THE DTM FOLDER. You can choose a default car or have a custom painted one. put the custom car files in the dtm folder. so if your car is car927.tex then make sure it's in the dtm folder. Nascar Heat and each mod all have their own drivers.txt file and their own carsets so make sure you are working in the proper subfolder. Email me at [email hidden] for the main dtm server address. Also check the yahoo egroup for pickup races. Several nights a week somebody will host a few races. Tues & thurs at 9pm est are the official practice sessions but those have been filling to capacity. Also IRF is a multiplayer host program for Heat that allows you to join any of the Heat mods. Nascar, DTM, CART, IRL, if you have the mod installed, you can race online if there is somebody hosting publically(sp?). whew! I told ya...it's a bugger to get running, but then once you do eveything becomes pretty transparent. dave henrie "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Larry Lindstrom wrote: > > I've downloaded all the stuff from TPTCC, thank you Dave, > and tracks from HC Motorsports, thanks Uncle Fester. > > I install, the drivers file from TPTCC, I assume this is > the car files for the drivers that have registered. Before > the race I can select a driver, but there is no graphic of > the cars in that display, and no BMWs or Mercedes are listed, > though I do see them in the race. > > I'd like to add myself, and a car, to my local copy of > this file. How do I go about it? I suppose I'll register > my intentions to race at TPTCC sometime soon. > > So I start a race at Portland. From the back. I'm > working my way up through the AI and a couple of laps in, > I suddenly get an track side camera view and a message box > pops up with the title "In Race Summary". I restart and > try again. Same thing. So I sit and watch this for > several laps. It seems we are running under caution, > messages roll by about some damaged cars. Finally, after > several laps, the race starts up and I'm behind the wheel > again, but the position board shows everyone is 3 laps > ahead of me. > > Once more. Two or three laps in, I'm driving conservatively, > near the back of the 39 car field, and the voice says something > about a yellow flag as we enter single file onto the start of > the front straight. We pass a car that's spinning along the > right side of the track and the "In Race Summary" board pops up > again, and I watch for a while, the cars are acting very strangely. > Stopping and backing up. The race summary shows me as 18th, unless > most of the field backed up past me, this is unlikely. After > several laps I get board and quit. I saved the replay if this can > help. > > So, what's happening? > > When can I get on line with you folks? > > Larry

Dave Henrie wrote: > > ok first turn off the flags, that is what's causing the in-race sumary. Yea, I figured that out, thanks. > Either you punted somebody or the AI crashed somewhere and the game threw a > yellow flag. We can't use flags online, that is one of Heat's weaknesses. > Plus we race in the Euro style mainly and try to avoid yellows. If there is > an ABSOLUTE bollux we'll either restart or call a yellow with the chat > function and group everyone up. Thats very rare tho.. That should be in > the SETUP menu at the track. Uh... I don't see anything about yellow flags, or Euro style or chat functions in the track setup menu. > you'll have the option for hardcore/expert/easy , race length, etc...and > there will be a toggle for flags, set that to none. Turn off the ghost > mode. several of the homemade tracks have a problem with that... > You should be running hardcore with tire/fuel wear set to 1x. Set the > pack for 22 cars...at least one of the tracks..(donnington I think doesn't > work well if you have a larger # of cars). Realism choices are expert and normal, no hardcore. > Many of the addon cars DO NOT have a picture. So if you are scrolling > down the list of cars, and you see a car name but no car/driver picture, > don't sweat it. That's apparently a tough part to track down and most of > the dtm cars have been submitted without car picts. As long as you see > the Merc's, Opels, and Alfa's in the car list, you are ok. Is there a difference between car types? Does a Mercedes drive differently than an Alpha? It looks like "Opel" means BMW. Right? I cycled through cars during a replay, and found a BMW. It is Chuck Hleinhagen's car. When I looked at the info it was identified as an "Opel". We don't have Opels in the U.S., so I went to the Opel web site, and Chuck's car doesn't look like anything they sell. > Now choosing your car. first scan the list of default car #'s. Those for > the original Mercs.(the ones with pictures) If your car has the same # > you'll have to add a digit to keep them separate. If there already is a #27 > but you have that #, then in the text lines below we'll use # 927. Ok, I brought in a new driver file from the TPTCC site, so there are no default pictures of Mercedes. I saw them last night before I brought in the new file. All the cars I raced last night at Indy were Mercedes.

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> This should be covered at the tptcc website, but just in case here is how > you get YOUR car in the field. > use windows explorer and navigate to the DTM folder inside of Heat. find > the file drivers.txt, double clik on that to open it with notepad. Take a > look at the format for each car. the append a similar group of lines to > name your car > don't worry if your drivers.txt doesn't match exactly. scroll down to the > bottom, the last few entries may look like this: > table Driver > number 38 > name Dave Henrie > chassis alfa > rank 1 > race_image 100 > body_style fcar > end > > table Driver > number 43 > name Steve Lovas > chassis opel > race_image 100 > body_style fcar > end > > end > > type the exact same lines or cut and paste the last group. stick it so it's > just above the last END. > so for Larry Lindstrom(say #27 opel) it should look like this... > ... > end > > table Driver > number 927 > name Larry Lindstrom > chassis opel > race_image 100 > body_style fcar > end > > end

Got it, thanks. Because I wanted a BMW, I cloned chuck. He was 918, so I grabbed 818. And I copied his 916.tex file to 818.tex. This seems to work.

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> Then when you boot up dtm you see your name listed and you will be able to > drive your own car....PROVIDED YOU HAVE A CAR FILE IN THE DTM FOLDER. You > can choose a default car or have a custom painted one. put the custom car > files in the dtm folder. so if your car is car927.tex then make sure it's > in the dtm folder. Nascar Heat and each mod all have their own drivers.txt > file and their own carsets so make sure you are working in the proper > subfolder.

How do I paint this thing? When running standard NASCAR Heat, I see the paint icon for easy use. But I don't see that when starting DTM.

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> Email me at [email hidden] for the main dtm server address. Also check > the yahoo egroup for pickup races. Several nights a week somebody will host > a few races. Tues & thurs at 9pm est are the official practice sessions but > those have been filling to capacity. Also IRF is a multiplayer host program > for Heat that allows you to join any of the Heat mods. Nascar, DTM, CART, > IRL, if you have the mod installed, you can race online if there is somebody > hosting publically(sp?).

Yea, the rules section explains how to register. I think I'll get my car painted and do some laps at Road Atlanta, which I've never driven, before proceeding further with getting on line. I hope there is a class for inexperienced drivers who won't get too bent if someone punts them off the road. > whew! I told ya...it's a bugger to get running, but then once you do > eveything becomes pretty transparent. > dave henrie Dave - Yo da MAN!!! Thanks Larry

"Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > ok first turn off the flags, that is what's causing the in-racesumary. > > Yea, I figured that out, thanks. > > > Either you punted somebody or the AI crashed somewhere and the gamethrew a > > yellow flag. We can't use flags online, that is one of Heat'sweaknesses. > > Plus we race in the Euro style mainly and try to avoid yellows. Ifthere is > > an ABSOLUTE bollux we'll either restart or call a yellow with the chat > > function and group everyone up. Thats very rare tho.. That should bein > > the SETUP menu at the track. > > Uh... I don't see anything about yellow flags, or Euro style or chat > functions in the track setup menu. Sorry my fault for getting wordy. By turning off the flags you don't have to worry about the yellows. The Euro style was a reference to NOT throwing yellows when somebody wrecks. There is no menu item for that. American races tend to throw yellow flags whenever there is a wreck or spin, Euro style racing 'usually' means they won't throw a yellow flag unless the track is blocked or filled with wrecked car parts. Chat is in the car during the race.. type the letter t then type whatever message you want...hit enter and the other racers will see it. However, typing while racing isn't the easiest thing to do. There are some voice programs like Game Commander 2 that work with Heat. > > > you'll have the option for hardcore/expert/easy , race length,etc...and > > there will be a toggle for flags, set that to none. Turn off the ghost > > mode. several of the homemade tracks have a problem with that... > > You should be running hardcore with tire/fuel wear set to 1x. Set the > > pack for 22 cars...at least one of the tracks..(donnington I thinkdoesn't > > work well if you have a larger # of cars). The pits should have a file that launches dtm and gives you control over several of the options before you start the game. Hardcore can be enabled with the launcher. Or...you can do the following. with windows explorer go to the dtm folder and look for an options.cfg file. scroll down til you find these lines. wear_factor 1.000000 [GLOBAL] enable_ui_click yes event 0 hardcore_enabled yes identity 0 your file probably says... hardcore_enabled no change the no to yes and then you can choose hardcore mode in setup. Nascar Heat has the same file in the main Heat folder. You can also change the settings there for Nascar. If you have other mods, they too will have their own options.cfg file....and you chould/should enable hardcore in all of them. > > Realism choices are expert and normal, no hardcore. > > > Many of the addon cars DO NOT have a picture. So if you are scrolling > > down the list of cars, and you see a car name but no car/driver picture, > > don't sweat it. That's apparently a tough part to track down and mostof > > the dtm cars have been submitted without car picts. As long as yousee > > the Merc's, Opels, and Alfa's in the car list, you are ok. > > Is there a difference between car types? Does a Mercedes > drive differently than an Alpha? There are three basic types of cars in DTM(so Far) The Merc is the original, then the Alfa and finally the opel. In the main dtm folder, you will see files for each. merc.car opel.car & alfa.car. some of the tptcc users have taken one of these cars, and dropped a BMW paintjob on it. If you look closely at the BMW's you can see the body shape of whatever car file it was based on. The Mercedes is a rear wheel drive car...I think it 'may' be the fastest, but it is also the hardest to recover in a slide/spin situation. The Opel and Alfa's are all wheel drive and can be easier to drive. The alfa has the shorter wheel base of the AWD cars and may be slightly easier to turn. > > It looks like "Opel" means BMW. Right? I cycled through > cars during a replay, and found a BMW. It is Chuck Hleinhagen's > car. When I looked at the info it was identified as an "Opel". > We don't have Opels in the U.S., so I went to the Opel web site, > and Chuck's car doesn't look like anything they sell. Opel is actually a General Motors international brand from Germany. In England the Opels have a brand name of Vauxhaul and in Austrailia they are called Holden. (Caddy is going to build the Holden Commodore next year in the USA) As stated above, the BMW is a fake car with an opel chassis and a BMW paintjob. > > > Now choosing your car. first scan the list of default car #'s. Thosefor > > the original Mercs.(the ones with pictures) If your car has the same # > > you'll have to add a digit to keep them separate. If there already is a#27 > > but you have that #, then in the text lines below we'll use # 927. > > Ok, I brought in a new driver file from the TPTCC site, so > there are no default pictures of Mercedes. I saw them last > night before I brought in the new file. All the cars I raced > last night at Indy were Mercedes. Check out the driver's page at the tpcc website, there you'll see which #'s have already been taken by the current drivers.

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> > Got it, thanks. Because I wanted a BMW, I cloned chuck. > He was 918, so I grabbed 818. And I copied his 916.tex file > to 818.tex. This seems to work. > How do I paint this thing? When running standard NASCAR > Heat, I see the paint icon for easy use. But I don't see > that when starting DTM.

Most painters are using Paintshop pro. I can't paint my house so I get somebody to paint for me...check out the #37 & #38 Alfa's. Those multi-colored wonders are from my team mate. DJ Thibodeau. Great work.

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> > Yea, the rules section explains how to register. > > I think I'll get my car painted and do some laps at > Road Atlanta, which I've never driven, before proceeding > further with getting on line. > > I hope there is a class for inexperienced drivers who > won't get too bent if someone punts them off the road. >

DTM is a very alive mod...it's easy to get outta shape and run off the track. Be gentle getting back on the racing line...don't make a lunge to the middle of the track and you should give the guys still racing a clear path by. Have fun!! dh > > Thanks > Larry

Version 1 cars all have the same power, weight, and aerodynamic characteristics. They differ only by the Opel and Alfa having AWD (75/25 r/f torque split) as they did in '95 and by wheelbase; the Merc's the longest, the Alfa the shortest. For ease of integrating the mod into the game, they still have a lot of Cup car in them. Version 2, on the other hand.... ;-) SB "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote... <snip> > The Mercedes is a rear wheel drive car...I think it 'may' be the fastest, but it is also the hardest to recover in a slide/spinsituation. The Opel and Alfa's are all wheel drive and can be easier to drive. The alfa has the shorter wheel base of the AWD cars and may be slightly easier to turn. < <snip>

Dave Henrie wrote: > > "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Dave Henrie wrote: < Snip > > change the no to yes and then you can choose hardcore mode in setup. > Nascar Heat has the same file in the main Heat folder. You can also change > the settings there for Nascar. If you have other mods, they too will have > their own options.cfg file....and you chould/should enable hardcore in all > of them. Last night, before I got your last post I went to Road Atlanta. I've never seen it. After 3 practice laps I owned the track. Now I've enabled hardcore, I think I'll practice for a week or so before I go on-line. < Snip > > > How do I paint this thing? When running standard NASCAR > > Heat, I see the paint icon for easy use. But I don't see > > that when starting DTM. > Most painters are using Paintshop pro. I can't paint my house so I get > somebody to paint for me...check out the #37 & #38 Alfa's. Those > multi-colored wonders are from my team mate. DJ Thibodeau. Great work. I'm going through a lot of money right now, and I'd rather not spend $100.00 just to paint my car. Is there a way to use the car painter in NASCAR Heat? I'm not familiar with graphics files. Are the ".txt" files some standard format, if so, which format is it? Gimp, which is supposed to be a photoshop clone, and has served me well for my limited needs, gagged when I tried to open my car's ".txt" file, as did Microsoft Paint. Can I convert the cars into a graphic format that Gimp can understand? Is there a free paint program that will work? I think people did a great job on the tracks. But there are some things I'd like to see done to my home town track, Portland. Is there some way I could be involved in tweaking this? I'd like to see some camber in the road and it would be nice to look at Mt Hood when driving down the back straight. I can take a camera out to the track and walk it. I've never done a track before, so I don't know if this is doable. Imola, on the other hand, seems odd. I'm not criticizing whoever made it available. But I like that track, pre and post the Senna tragedy, and I would love to see it be one version of the track or the other. The absence of the chicane at Tamburello, Variante Alta and Variante Marlboro Variante suggests that it could use work. I believe some people have created tracks for SCGT. Are these efforts available, at least as starting points, for conversion to NASCAR Heat? Thanks Larry

Portland is as it is...a conversion from CPR. I don't know if anybody out there has the time and code knowledge to add to it. I will say...for a real event, scrap along the outside wall at the last turn. You'll find PIR's black hole. I can't help ya with painting...I know red, green, and blue but that is already pushing my skills/knowledge. Imola is the Motorcycle circuit that is used by GP bikes. It's fairly up to date...say 1999 or 2000 but it does differ from the Grand Prix F1 circuit. There are some folks converting SCGT tracks, but I assume it is a painfully slow process. We take what we can get. And it's NOT Mt Hood, but if you look VERY VERY carefully at Sears, off to the left of the first hill, you'll see the very tippy top of a mountain...I'd guess Mt Shasta but that should be much farther north. dave henrie "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > < Snip > > > > change the no to yes and then you can choose hardcore mode in setup. > > Nascar Heat has the same file in the main Heat folder. You can also

change > > the settings there for Nascar. If you have other mods, they too willhave > > their own options.cfg file....and you chould/should enable hardcore inall

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> > of them. > > Last night, before I got your last post I went to Road > Atlanta. I've never seen it. After 3 practice laps I > owned the track. Now I've enabled hardcore, I think I'll > practice for a week or so before I go on-line. > > < Snip > > > > > How do I paint this thing? When running standard NASCAR > > > Heat, I see the paint icon for easy use. But I don't see > > > that when starting DTM. > > Most painters are using Paintshop pro. I can't paint my house so I

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> > somebody to paint for me...check out the #37 & #38 Alfa's. Those > > multi-colored wonders are from my team mate. DJ Thibodeau. Great work. > > I'm going through a lot of money right now, and I'd rather > not spend $100.00 just to paint my car. Is there a way to use > the car painter in NASCAR Heat? > > I'm not familiar with graphics files. Are the ".txt" files > some standard format, if so, which format is it? Gimp, which > is supposed to be a photoshop clone, and has served me well > for my limited needs, gagged when I tried to open my car's > ".txt" file, as did Microsoft Paint. Can I convert the cars > into a graphic format that Gimp can understand? Is there a > free paint program that will work? > > I think people did a great job on the tracks. But there > are some things I'd like to see done to my home town track, > Portland. Is there some way I could be involved in tweaking > this? I'd like to see some camber in the road and it would be > nice to look at Mt Hood when driving down the back straight. > I can take a camera out to the track and walk it. I've never > done a track before, so I don't know if this is doable. > > Imola, on the other hand, seems odd. I'm not criticizing > whoever made it available. But I like that track, pre and > post the Senna tragedy, and I would love to see it be one > version of the track or the other. The absence of the chicane > at Tamburello, Variante Alta and Variante Marlboro Variante > suggests that it could use work. > > I believe some people have created tracks for SCGT. Are > these efforts available, at least as starting points, for > conversion to NASCAR Heat? > > Thanks > Larry