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Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave about it for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what all the fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. My lap times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a voodoo banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils that I should get? Thanks for ruining my life :) Jah_warrior86 -------------- GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;)

Check out this page. It's a beginner's guide to Grand Prix Legends. I was just like you and very recently was able to get Grand Prix Legends to work with my Geforce 3 card. Now I see what I've been missing!!! There are links here to the many patches. Jeff http://www.slottweak.com/gplintro.htm "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave aboutit

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> for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what all the > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. My lap > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a voodoo > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils that I > should get? > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > Jah_warrior86 > -------------- > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > >

jah_warrior86 wrote: > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) There is. Dave Henrie owns the copyright. :-P -- Fester

"Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > jah_warrior86 wrote: > > > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > > There is. Dave Henrie owns the copyright. :-P Right you are Uncle and I sick my lawyers after ANYONe who attempts to drive as slowly as me. dave(non-moving chicane)henrie > > -- > > Fester

In article <%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]>, "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> writes: >Man, this is a blast. My lap >times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. And that's what counts...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last night. Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) I reinstalled the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Just with that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to see what all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have to decide if I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of 6 years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystick can't be too bad! -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave about it > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what all the > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. My lap > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a voodoo > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils that I > should get? > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > Jah_warrior86 > -------------- > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > >

"jah_warrior86" wrote... > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys > rave about it for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd > see first hand what all the fuss is about. Sorry for doubting > you guys... Now this is the kind of attitude we like to see here on RAS. <g> > Man, this is a blast. My lap times really suck, but I'm having > fun at Monza for now. That's what it's all about and, IMHO, it gets better the better one gets. > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck > with a voodoo banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' > patches/updates/utils that I should get? Well, learning the supplied tracks will do you for a while. Then I think the next step to achieve full blown addiction should be to go to www.vroc.net and start racing online. This will introduce more tracks and encourage a system upgrade. After which you could start to think about getting some snazzy scenery and cars and so on. ;-) > Thanks for ruining my life :) Hey, no problem! Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

Hey Scott, I see you go to MTU, so I was wondering if you went to the Lake Superior Pro Rally this year. Sweet event, at least it looks like it is. I'm going to make the trip up someday, but in the meantime I go to rallies around here in PA. Just wondering, as I knew Houghton was the collegetown for MTU and the rally. Thanks, Alex "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vlm71$f4376$[email hidden]... > You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last night. > Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) I reinstalled > the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Just with > that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to see what > all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have to decideif

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> I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of 6 > years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystick can't be > too bad! > -- > Scott Lyman > Mechanical Engineering Student > Michigan Technological University > > "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave

about > it > > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what allthe > > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. Mylap > > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with avoodoo > > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils thatI

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I've never made it yet, just read about it in the school paper. A lot of the teams stay right here in town, and this year I went with a couple of friends to one of the local hotels and checked out some of the cars while they were registering at the hotel. We even talked to a few crewmen, but they couldn't chat for too long with the busy weekend ahead and all. One of these years I'll have to check it out for real... -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4otT7.4099$[email hidden]... > Hey Scott, I see you go to MTU, so I was wondering if you went to the Lake > Superior Pro Rally this year. Sweet event, at least it looks like it is. I'm > going to make the trip up someday, but in the meantime I go to rallies > around here in PA. > > Just wondering, as I knew Houghton was the collegetown for MTU and the > rally. > > Thanks, > Alex > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9vlm71$f4376$[email hidden]... > > You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last night. > > Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) I reinstalled > > the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Just with > > that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to see what > > all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have to decide > if > > I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of 6 > > years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystick can't be > > too bad! > > -- > > Scott Lyman > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > Michigan Technological University > > > > "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > > > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave > about > > it > > > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what all > the > > > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. My > lap > > > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > > > > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a > voodoo > > > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils that > I > > > should get? > > > > > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > > > > > Jah_warrior86 > > > -------------- > > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > > > > > > > > > > > >

you mean its not called the POR anymore? I went every year while I was a student at Tech. Chris Carncross Class of '91 Mechanical Engineering Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4otT7.4099$[email hidden]...

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> Hey Scott, I see you go to MTU, so I was wondering if you went to the Lake > Superior Pro Rally this year. Sweet event, at least it looks like it is. I'm > going to make the trip up someday, but in the meantime I go to rallies > around here in PA. > > Just wondering, as I knew Houghton was the collegetown for MTU and the > rally. > > Thanks, > Alex > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9vlm71$f4376$[email hidden]... > > You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last night. > > Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) I reinstalled > > the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Just with > > that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to see what > > all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have to decide > if > > I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of 6 > > years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystick can't be > > too bad! > > -- > > Scott Lyman > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > Michigan Technological University > > > > "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > > > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave > about > > it > > > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what all > the > > > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. My > lap > > > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > > > > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a > voodoo > > > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils that > I > > > should get? > > > > > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > > > > > Jah_warrior86 > > > -------------- > > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > > > > > > > > > > > >

The SCCA Pro Rally is the official name according to the MTU Lode. How was it when you went? -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PavT7.229389$[email hidden]... > you mean its not called the POR anymore? I went every year while I was a student at Tech. > > Chris Carncross > Class of '91 > Mechanical Engineering > > Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4otT7.4099$[email hidden]... > > Hey Scott, I see you go to MTU, so I was wondering if you went to the Lake > > Superior Pro Rally this year. Sweet event, at least it looks like it is. I'm > > going to make the trip up someday, but in the meantime I go to rallies > > around here in PA. > > > > Just wondering, as I knew Houghton was the collegetown for MTU and the > > rally. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9vlm71$f4376$[email hidden]... > > > You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last night. > > > Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) I reinstalled > > > the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Just with > > > that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to see what > > > all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have to decide > > if > > > I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of 6 > > > years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystick can't be > > > too bad! > > > -- > > > Scott Lyman > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > > > > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave > > about > > > it > > > > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what all > > the > > > > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. My > > lap > > > > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > > > > > > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a > > voodoo > > > > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils that > > I > > > > should get? > > > > > > > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > > > > > > > Jah_warrior86 > > > > -------------- > > > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Nope, they stopped calling it POR in the early 90's I think? I'm only 14, and my first rally was in 93, so it's a bit beyond my time :) Thanks, Alex "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PavT7.229389$[email hidden]... > you mean its not called the POR anymore? I went every year while I was astudent at Tech.

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> > going to make the trip up someday, but in the meantime I go to rallies > > around here in PA. > > > > Just wondering, as I knew Houghton was the collegetown for MTU and the > > rally. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9vlm71$f4376$[email hidden]... > > > You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last

night. > > > Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) Ireinstalled > > > the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Justwith > > > that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to seewhat > > > all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have todecide > > if > > > I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of6 > > > years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystickcan't be

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> > > too bad! > > > -- > > > Scott Lyman > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > > > > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave > > about > > > it > > > > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what

all > > the > > > > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast.My > > lap > > > > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > > > > > > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a > > voodoo > > > > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utilsthat

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> > I > > > > should get? > > > > > > > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > > > > > > > Jah_warrior86 > > > > -------------- > > > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi again, I just turned a 1:33.945 at Monza and was wondering if this is about what my times should be after driving for a little while. Also, I'm using the brabham and am wondering what the best car to learn on is? I guess I could start trying to learn the other tracks eventually though seeing as I can't make a lap on any other track yet :-) Thanks all for the links Jah_warrior86

1:33 is pretty good! Keep it up. 1:30 is sort of a milestone at Monza. If you can run 1:30's, you can do OK online. Lot's of people like to start with the Coventry (Cooper). Lotus is about the fastest, but it is also the hardest to drive. -- Pat Dotson jah_warrior86 wrote: > > Hi again, > > I just turned a 1:33.945 at Monza and was wondering if this is about what my > times should be after driving for a little while. Also, I'm using the > brabham and am wondering what the best car to learn on is? > I guess I could start trying to learn the other tracks eventually though > seeing as I can't make a lap on any other track yet :-) > Thanks all for the links > > Jah_warrior86

Well its not the only SCCA Pro Rally.... :) It used to be called the POR for "Press On Regardless", and of course I assume it still has stages all over the UP(at least in the Copper Country area), when I was there it was Rod Millen and his 4-wheel drive RX-7, and there was someone big in an Audi Quattro but for the life of me I can't remember his name. There was(hopefully still is) quite a good rally in PA called Tiadoughton(sp?) that I used to go and work stages at, plus Chillicothe, OH, (Sundowner)etc... Chris Carncross PS-I was Class of '90, see what happens when you start getting older.... Scott Lyman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vm0sr$g58a5$[email hidden]...

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> The SCCA Pro Rally is the official name according to the MTU Lode. How was > it when you went? > -- > Scott Lyman > Mechanical Engineering Student > Michigan Technological University > > "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PavT7.229389$[email hidden]... > > you mean its not called the POR anymore? I went every year while I was a > student at Tech. > > > > Chris Carncross > > Class of '91 > > Mechanical Engineering > > > > Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:4otT7.4099$[email hidden]... > > > Hey Scott, I see you go to MTU, so I was wondering if you went to the > Lake > > > Superior Pro Rally this year. Sweet event, at least it looks like it is. > I'm > > > going to make the trip up someday, but in the meantime I go to rallies > > > around here in PA. > > > > > > Just wondering, as I knew Houghton was the collegetown for MTU and the > > > rally. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9vlm71$f4376$[email hidden]... > > > > You're not the only one, I ordered a copy through purplus.com last > night. > > > > Now that I finally have a new computer (old one was a P133) I > reinstalled > > > > the demo with the OpenGL upgrade and was basically blown away! Just > with > > > > that it looks like a practically new release, so I can't wait to see > what > > > > all the car and track updates/addons look like. Now I'll have to > decide > > > if > > > > I need to get a wheel/pedal setup or stick with my trusty joystick of > 6 > > > > years. My SS rating for N4 is currently a 7, so the old joystick > can't be > > > > too bad! > > > > -- > > > > Scott Lyman > > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > > > "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:%RhT7.9114$[email hidden]... > > > > > Well, I finally broke down and got GPL. After hearing you guys rave > > > about > > > > it > > > > > for the past who knows how long, I thought I'd see first hand what > all > > > the > > > > > fuss is about. Sorry for doubting you guys... Man, this is a blast. > My > > > lap > > > > > times really suck, but I'm having fun at Monza for now. > > > > > > > > > > I have the 1.201 update, GPLRA, the glide patch (still stuck with a > > > voodoo > > > > > banshee card). Are there any other 'critical' patches/updates/utils > that > > > I > > > > > should get? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for ruining my life :) > > > > > > > > > > Jah_warrior86 > > > > > -------------- > > > > > GPL rank: there's gotta be an infinity symbol here somewhere ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I guess I'll just have to go next year to find out its official name...and maybe as long as I'm there I'll watch the race too! I never really got into rallies that much, I've only ever seriously followed NASCAR but occasionaly watch NHRA and World of Outlaws along with some of the local drags and circle track action. I guess as long as its so close and sounds like a pretty big thing I'll have to make it out there next year. -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University

In article <vKvT7.4149$[email hidden]>, "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> writes: >Nope, they stopped calling it POR in the early 90's I think? I'm only 14, >and my first rally was in 93, so it's a bit beyond my time :) Brat...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Pat's right - you're doing well! One thing I'd toss in about racing online is to learn to drive consistent laps; lots of online racers can do quick laps but throw it all away by spinning off several times a race. One off will cost you a lot more time than the tenths you might have gained by pushing the limit. Save the 110% stuff for offline practicing and GPLRank and your online results will be the better for it. Good luck, (and watch out for Surtees...;-) ) SB "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 1:33 is pretty good! Keep it up. 1:30 is sort of > a milestone at Monza. If you can run 1:30's, you > can do OK online. > > Lot's of people like to start with the Coventry > (Cooper). Lotus is about the fastest, but it > is also the hardest to drive. > > -- > Pat Dotson > > jah_warrior86 wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > I just turned a 1:33.945 at Monza and was wondering if this is about what my > > times should be after driving for a little while. Also, I'm using the > > brabham and am wondering what the best car to learn on is? > > I guess I could start trying to learn the other tracks eventually though > > seeing as I can't make a lap on any other track yet :-) > > Thanks all for the links > > > > Jah_warrior86

yikes... I guess I'll have to go with a rank of infinity - 1 then ;-) Jah_warrior86

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> Right you are Uncle and I sick my lawyers after ANYONe who attempts to > drive as slowly as me. > dave(non-moving chicane)henrie > > > > -- > > > > Fester > >

I found a site with some old rally results from "my era" The other guy I was thinking of was John Buffum, and the race in Southern OH was called SunRiser not sundowner like I incorrectly stated in my previous post. you'll see that the UP rally was referred to as POR. http://www.rallyracingnews.com/rnindex.html -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Scott Lyman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vmh14$g3j37$[email hidden]... > I guess I'll just have to go next year to find out its official name...and > maybe as long as I'm there I'll watch the race too! I never really got into > rallies that much, I've only ever seriously followed NASCAR but occasionaly > watch NHRA and World of Outlaws along with some of the local drags and > circle track action. I guess as long as its so close and sounds like a > pretty big thing I'll have to make it out there next year. > -- > Scott Lyman > Mechanical Engineering Student > Michigan Technological University > > >

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> Hi again, > > I just turned a 1:33.945 at Monza and was wondering if this is > about what my times should be after driving for a little while. > Also, I'm using the brabham and am wondering what the best car to > learn on is? I guess I could start trying to learn the other tracks > eventually though seeing as I can't make a lap on any other track > yet :-) Thanks all for the links > > Jah_warrior86

I shouldn't worry too much about the actual time - consistency and smoothness are more important. There's no point in turning in 1:28s if you're going to crash every other lap. Pat Dotson is pretty much right to say that 1:30 is a bit of a benchmark, though plenty of people online ehave a good time with consistent 1:31s or 1:32s because they've learnt basic racecraft (getting out of the way of faster cars etc). Personally I learnt on the Lotus, which is exactly what a lot of people say *not* to do! It does seem to be largely a matter of personal preference - when you get comfortable with one car, stick with it for a while. Circuits? I can't imagine learning the tracks on a strictly one-at-a- time basis - when I got bored with Monza I went off to Spa; when that became tiring I had a go at Rouen; and so on. Made things much more interesting. Spa in particular is a great beginner's circuit - not too many corners to remember yet very fast, lots of gradients and a good challenge. One last thing - you have turned off *all* the driver aids, haven't you? If not, do it now - otherwise you'll have to learn to drive the car almost from scratch later on. -- "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

you are making good progress. Make sure you lower your fuel to only enough to run 7 or 8 laps...(depending on the track) Most people prefer the Cooper(called Covington in the game) or the Ferrari. Neither is the fastest but are very balanced. If you choose the Ferrari, find Eagle Woman's site and grab her sweet red candy setups...these are very stable and will allow you to concentrate on driving not setting up a car. good luck. dave henrie "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mrxT7.9219$[email hidden]... > Hi again, > > I just turned a 1:33.945 at Monza and was wondering if this is about whatmy

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Nope, they stopped calling it POR in the early 90's I think? I'm only 14, > >and my first rally was in 93, so it's a bit beyond my time :) > > > Brat...<g> > > Eldred

yeah but he's a fast brat. :) dave henrie

Lol, "that other guy". It's JB! I have his biography damnit! :) (signed too) BTW, the Rally in PA is STPR (Susquehannock Trail Pro Rally) Been going to that one since I was 6, then I started going to Maine last year, and went to Cherokee Trails for the first time this year. I pretty much go to every rally a club rally team close to me goes to me. It's so great, except I always feel guilty cuz I get to go so many places I normally wouldn't be able to go. Anyway, go to http://www.specialstage.com/ It's the central US Pro Rally meeting place, has a nice forum, articles from all events (some written by me) etc. I'm RallyBrat in the forums BTW. Thanks, Alex "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kACT7.170662$[email hidden]... > I found a site with some old rally results from "my era" The other guy Iwas thinking of was John > Buffum, and the race in Southern OH was called SunRiser not sundowner likeI incorrectly stated in

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news:9vmh14$g3j37$[email hidden]... > > I guess I'll just have to go next year to find out its officialname...and > > maybe as long as I'm there I'll watch the race too! I never really gotinto > > rallies that much, I've only ever seriously followed NASCAR butoccasionaly

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> > watch NHRA and World of Outlaws along with some of the local drags and > > circle track action. I guess as long as its so close and sounds like a > > pretty big thing I'll have to make it out there next year. > > -- > > Scott Lyman > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > > >