Steering Wheel Comparison

Hi, Need your opinion on computer steering wheels. I had the Wingman Formula Force, but I broke the paddle so am looking for a new wheel. Although Logitech came out with the Momo wheel, I haven't acted on it because it doesn't have the rally style gear shifter like the Thrustmaster/Guillemot Ferrari wheel. I am just wondering how the Ferrari wheel compares to the Momo wheel, and since none of the stores has, I am wondering if it's worth the price? Thank you, Charles

Not much of a COMPARISON, but I do own the ferrari/guellemot wheel, so I'll try to give ya an honest opinion on it (without trying to justify my purchase). Build quality on the wheel is really nice, clamping is really nice too! blah blah blah... the pedals suck. If it wasn't for me using vecro, then they'd be sliding around way too much on hardwood. The force feedback is done really well for the most part. My biggest complaint is that if you turn the wheel fast, the force feedback seems to disengage completely, and the wheel moves absolutely free until you slow down the movement. What the hell is that?? The shifter is a -great- addition. I use it in Rally Trophy a lot, and boy does it make the game more challenging! However, in Colin McRae 2, I use the F1-Style shifters on the wheel. These things seem really flimsy, which has been lots of people's complaints. But, if you just use them to shift (and not to take your anger out on), then they'll perfectly do the job. The wheel has a long travel (significantly longer than the Logitech I had), which is really nice. I picked mine up for $150CDN (under $100 US) with a free $20 thrustmaster gamepad! I got it at Staples (www.staples.ca). I'm happy with it so far, but I just cannot understand why when I turn the wheel fast, the force feedback seems to go away.. Either way, I think I'm gonna open it up and look.. I hope that helps.. For what it's worth.. the momo seems way too expensive for me (that's why I didn't buy it), and I'm guessing a lot of that money is for the name momo, and the actual wheel. I don't know how much better the force feedback can be, but the pedals definately look more stable. But, if you are a poor university student like me, the thrustmaster and a few $'s worth of velcro is a decent deal.. -- Mike Beauchamp http://mikebeauchamp.com "Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4keT7.8135$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > Need your opinion on computer steering wheels. > > I had the Wingman Formula Force, but I broke the paddle so am looking for a > new wheel. Although Logitech came out with the Momo wheel, I haven't acted > on it because it doesn't have the rally style gear shifter like the > Thrustmaster/Guillemot Ferrari wheel. > > I am just wondering how the Ferrari wheel compares to the Momo wheel, and > since none of the stores has, I am wondering if it's worth the price? > > Thank you, > > Charles > >

You have the TM Ferrari wheel, which is not the same as the Guillemot one, although they look very similar. Pedals are completely different and the wheel innards are too, according to some reports I have read (haven't actually opened up a TM to see inside). Marc. "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%7gT7.7769$[email hidden]... > Not much of a COMPARISON, but I do own the ferrari/guellemot wheel, soI'll > try to give ya an honest opinion on it (without trying to justify my > purchase). > > Build quality on the wheel is really nice, clamping is really nice too!blah

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> blah blah... the pedals suck. If it wasn't for me using vecro, then they'd > be sliding around way too much on hardwood. > > The force feedback is done really well for the most part. My biggest > complaint is that if you turn the wheel fast, the force feedback seems to > disengage completely, and the wheel moves absolutely free until you slow > down the movement. What the hell is that?? > > The shifter is a -great- addition. I use it in Rally Trophy a lot, and boy > does it make the game more challenging! However, in Colin McRae 2, I use

the > F1-Style shifters on the wheel. These things seem really flimsy, which has > been lots of people's complaints. But, if you just use them to shift (and > not to take your anger out on), then they'll perfectly do the job. > > The wheel has a long travel (significantly longer than the Logitech Ihad),

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> which is really nice. I picked mine up for $150CDN (under $100 US) with a > free $20 thrustmaster gamepad! I got it at Staples (www.staples.ca). > > I'm happy with it so far, but I just cannot understand why when I turn the > wheel fast, the force feedback seems to go away.. Either way, I think I'm > gonna open it up and look.. > > I hope that helps.. For what it's worth.. the momo seems way too

expensive > for me (that's why I didn't buy it), and I'm guessing a lot of that moneyis

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> for the name momo, and the actual wheel. I don't know how much better the > force feedback can be, but the pedals definately look more stable. But, if > you are a poor university student like me, the thrustmaster and a few $'s > worth of velcro is a decent deal.. > > -- > Mike Beauchamp > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > "Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4keT7.8135$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > Need your opinion on computer steering wheels. > > > > I had the Wingman Formula Force, but I broke the paddle so am looking

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> a > > new wheel. Although Logitech came out with the Momo wheel, I haven't > acted > > on it because it doesn't have the rally style gear shifter like the > > Thrustmaster/Guillemot Ferrari wheel. > > > > I am just wondering how the Ferrari wheel compares to the Momo wheel,

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> > since none of the stores has, I am wondering if it's worth the price? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Charles > > > > > >

Go to my website (no ads or banners) for a list of some of the many wheel and pedal set-ups which are available currently... www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html Go to the game hardware section: 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

Well, the MSFFW may feel 'plasticky', but reliability of this wheel is outstanding. As for the pedals, I do not think they are poor at all. In fact, I think they are the most comfortable pedals available in a consumer-class wheel. The MSFFW is practically bullet-proof. It just plain works, and it works for years without trouble. However, the SideWinder software is seriously out of date and aging more as the years go by. The SideWinder software IS the weakest link :( And, finally, what MS has done to the GamePort version owners of their hardware is really sad. I also have a Momo wheel. The wheel itself is first-class. However, the pedals are so small and funky that I can use it. My lap times suffered horribly. I did what I've done so many times over the last couple of years. Went back to the MSFFW. I always seem to end up with that back on my desk :) -Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0pu9u$k18$[email hidden]...

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> Go to my website (no ads or banners) for a list of some of the many wheel > and pedal set-ups which are available currently... > > www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html > > Go to the game hardware section: > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

"Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xg%X7.12350$[email hidden]...

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> Well, the MSFFW may feel 'plasticky', but reliability of this wheel is > outstanding. > > As for the pedals, I do not think they are poor at all. In fact, I think > they are the most comfortable pedals available in a consumer-class wheel. > > The MSFFW is practically bullet-proof. It just plain works, and it works > for years without trouble. > > However, the SideWinder software is seriously out of date and aging more

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> the years go by. The SideWinder software IS the weakest link :( > > And, finally, what MS has done to the GamePort version owners of their > hardware is really sad. > > I also have a Momo wheel. The wheel itself is first-class. However, the > pedals are so small and funky that I can use it. My lap times suffered > horribly. > > I did what I've done so many times over the last couple of years. Went

back > to the MSFFW. I always seem to end up with that back on my desk :) > > -Larry Well, Larry (Who is the first Larry???). I can only agree with you about M$FFW. It works and works. I got the gameport model when it was released, and it worked just fine until last summer where I went over to WinXP, and therefore had to buy a new Wheel. I first got a Logitech, but after 2 days I went back to M$, this time the new USB model, and I have not regred that. My first Wheel (the gameport) is now working at my brother in law, as he is running WinME, he can still make use of the gameport model. But SHAME ON YOU MICRO$OFT FOR NOT SUPPORTING YOUR OWN HARDWARE!! That was a dirty trick. Don't you get any ideas about stopping for activating winXP in 1� years time, just to make people buy a new OS again (and again and again) -- Mvh Sven

Same here. Started with the GamePort version (still have it) and then got the USB version. I figure that _eventually_ I might need a part and that's why I keep the Gameport version. It's been two years of hard use on the USB version. It is showing _no_ signs of wear or fatigue, so I may never need them :) The digital (optical) pots might not have the resolution of the analog one's, but I've never heard of one failing. -Larry "Sven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c311159$0$188$[email hidden]... > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xg%X7.12350$[email hidden]... > > Well, the MSFFW may feel 'plasticky', but reliability of this wheel is > > outstanding. > > > > As for the pedals, I do not think they are poor at all. In fact, Ithink > > they are the most comfortable pedals available in a consumer-classwheel. > > > > The MSFFW is practically bullet-proof. It just plain works, and itworks

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> > for years without trouble. > > > > However, the SideWinder software is seriously out of date and aging more > as > > the years go by. The SideWinder software IS the weakest link :( > > > > And, finally, what MS has done to the GamePort version owners of their > > hardware is really sad. > > > > I also have a Momo wheel. The wheel itself is first-class. However,

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> > pedals are so small and funky that I can use it. My lap times suffered > > horribly. > > > > I did what I've done so many times over the last couple of years. Went > back > > to the MSFFW. I always seem to end up with that back on my desk :) > > > > -Larry > > > Well, Larry (Who is the first Larry???). I can only agree with you about > M$FFW. It works and works. I got the gameport model when it was released, > and it worked just fine until last summer where I went over to WinXP, and > therefore had to buy a new Wheel. I first got a Logitech, but after 2 days

I > went back to M$, this time the new USB model, and I have not regred that.My > first Wheel (the gameport) is now working at my brother in law, as he is > running WinME, he can still make use of the gameport model. > > But SHAME ON YOU MICRO$OFT FOR NOT SUPPORTING YOUR OWN HARDWARE!! That wasa > dirty trick. Don't you get any ideas about stopping for activating winXPin > 1� years time, just to make people buy a new OS again (and again andagain)

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