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Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? Particularly with XP and N4 ? I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen locked. The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, and so far it's been ok. There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning these drivers, too. TIA! -Larry KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC

I run 23.11+XP+n4 on a gf2 gts no probs "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screenlocked. > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, andso

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> far it's been ok. > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > these drivers, too. > > TIA! > > -Larry > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > >

With Geforce3 and N4 you should be using OpenGL, from what I understand you should get much better performance... -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Larry (The Other Larry) <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen locked. > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, and so > far it's been ok. > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > these drivers, too. > > TIA! > > -Larry > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > >

Hi Larry, it's probably got nothing to do with N4. WinXP seems to have problems with installing some sorts of drivers, don't know if it's non-WHQL related or not. The NG's are full of these probs under WinXP, across all hardware platforms, VIA/Intel, Intel/Intel, AMD/VIA, etc. It's apparently not limited to Nvidia, although that's where it seems to occur most frequently, but that could be because the Nvidia cards are so widespread, especially in the power gaming community. But I've read about a case where the installation of new soundcard drivers caused a similar instability. You may want to have a look at your Registry, into "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nv4]" and see if the entry "ImagePath" points to "System32\DRIVERS\nv4.sys". If it does, try changing it to "ImagePath": "System32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys" XP seems to forget to register the latest version of nv4_mini.sys correctly, and keeps pointing to the older nv4.sys that belongs to the 12.40 drivers XP installs originally. I'm not sure it'll help you, but it could. Good luck! Achim But since WinXP is the common factor "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screenlocked. > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, andso

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> far it's been ok. > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > these drivers, too. > > TIA! > > -Larry > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > >

I always use OpenGL. -Larry "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aieT7.299179$[email hidden]... > With Geforce3 and N4 you should be using OpenGL, from what I understandyou should get much better

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> performance... > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Larry (The Other Larry) <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen

locked. > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, andso

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> > far it's been ok. > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > > these drivers, too. > > > > TIA! > > > > -Larry > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > >

Very interesting. Thanks! -Larry "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vld2b$fvsas$[email hidden]...

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> Hi Larry, > > it's probably got nothing to do with N4. WinXP seems to have problems with > installing some sorts of drivers, don't know if it's non-WHQL related or > not. > > The NG's are full of these probs under WinXP, across all hardware

platforms, > VIA/Intel, Intel/Intel, AMD/VIA, etc. It's apparently not limited toNvidia,

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> although that's where it seems to occur most frequently, but that could be > because the Nvidia cards are so widespread, especially in the power gaming > community. But I've read about a case where the installation of new > soundcard drivers caused a similar instability. > > You may want to have a look at your Registry, into > "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nv4]" > and see if the entry > "ImagePath" points to "System32\DRIVERS\nv4.sys". > If it does, try changing it to > "ImagePath": "System32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys" > > XP seems to forget to register the latest version of nv4_mini.sys

correctly, > and keeps pointing to the older nv4.sys that belongs to the 12.40 driversXP

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> installs originally. I'm not sure it'll help you, but it could. > > Good luck! > > Achim > > > But since WinXP is the common factor > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen > locked. > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, and > so > > far it's been ok. > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > > these drivers, too. > > > > TIA! > > > > -Larry > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > >

I had N4 lockup on me during a league race for the first time last friday night using 23.11 drivers with XP home. StParadise

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> Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen locked. > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, and so > far it's been ok. > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > these drivers, too. > > TIA! > > -Larry > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC

23.11 was awful on my 1.5 ghz P4. I couldnt play Rally Trophy or Ghost Recon because of the horrible screen stutter and insane load times. I ended up finding the Detonator Destroyer file which fixed all my probs. I had to remove 23.11 Nvidia drivers using Add/Remove progs. Then I ran the Detonator Destroyer program, rebooted, installed older Nvidia drivers. Fixed it all. No more stuttering in any of the games I was having probs w. before. I didnt know how awesome Ratty Trophy is until doing this. The sense of speed is excellent. Charlie "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yTrT7.203$[email hidden]...

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> Very interesting. Thanks! > > -Larry > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9vld2b$fvsas$[email hidden]... > > Hi Larry, > > > > it's probably got nothing to do with N4. WinXP seems to have problems

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> > installing some sorts of drivers, don't know if it's non-WHQL related or > > not. > > > > The NG's are full of these probs under WinXP, across all hardware > platforms, > > VIA/Intel, Intel/Intel, AMD/VIA, etc. It's apparently not limited to > Nvidia, > > although that's where it seems to occur most frequently, but that could

be > > because the Nvidia cards are so widespread, especially in the powergaming

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> > community. But I've read about a case where the installation of new > > soundcard drivers caused a similar instability. > > > > You may want to have a look at your Registry, into > > "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nv4]" > > and see if the entry > > "ImagePath" points to "System32\DRIVERS\nv4.sys". > > If it does, try changing it to > > "ImagePath": "System32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys" > > > > XP seems to forget to register the latest version of nv4_mini.sys > correctly, > > and keeps pointing to the older nv4.sys that belongs to the 12.40

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> XP > > installs originally. I'm not sure it'll help you, but it could. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Achim > > > > > > But since WinXP is the common factor > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with

them. > > > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen > > locked. > > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500,and > > so > > > far it's been ok. > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right nowconcerning

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> > > these drivers, too. > > > > > > TIA! > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > > > > > > > >

I thought Det Destroyer was only for Win9x? Is there a new one? -Larry "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kBNT7.11$[email hidden]... > 23.11 was awful on my 1.5 ghz P4. I couldnt play Rally Trophy or Ghost > Recon because of the horrible screen stutter and insane load times. Iended > up finding the Detonator Destroyer file which fixed all my probs. I had to > remove 23.11 Nvidia drivers using Add/Remove progs. Then I ran theDetonator > Destroyer program, rebooted, installed older Nvidia drivers. Fixed it all. > No more stuttering in any of the games I was having probs w. before. Ididnt

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> know how awesome Ratty Trophy is until doing this. The sense of speed is > excellent. > > Charlie > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yTrT7.203$[email hidden]... > > Very interesting. Thanks! > > > > -Larry > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9vld2b$fvsas$[email hidden]... > > > Hi Larry, > > > > > > it's probably got nothing to do with N4. WinXP seems to have problems > with > > > installing some sorts of drivers, don't know if it's non-WHQL related

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> > > not. > > > > > > The NG's are full of these probs under WinXP, across all hardware > > platforms, > > > VIA/Intel, Intel/Intel, AMD/VIA, etc. It's apparently not limited to > > Nvidia, > > > although that's where it seems to occur most frequently, but that

could

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> be > > > because the Nvidia cards are so widespread, especially in the power > gaming > > > community. But I've read about a case where the installation of new > > > soundcard drivers caused a similar instability. > > > > > > You may want to have a look at your Registry, into > > > "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nv4]" > > > and see if the entry > > > "ImagePath" points to "System32\DRIVERS\nv4.sys". > > > If it does, try changing it to > > > "ImagePath": "System32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys" > > > > > > XP seems to forget to register the latest version of nv4_mini.sys > > correctly, > > > and keeps pointing to the older nv4.sys that belongs to the 12.40 > drivers > > XP > > > installs originally. I'm not sure it'll help you, but it could. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > But since WinXP is the common factor > > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with > them. > > > > > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen > > > locked. > > > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, > and > > > so > > > > far it's been ok. > > > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now > concerning > > > > these drivers, too. > > > > > > > > TIA! > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I wonder if you had tried the destroyer BEFORE using the 23.11's? It sounds like you had leftover files from previous driver versions. dave henrie "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kBNT7.11$[email hidden]... > 23.11 was awful on my 1.5 ghz P4. I couldnt play Rally Trophy or Ghost > Recon because of the horrible screen stutter and insane load times. Iended > up finding the Detonator Destroyer file which fixed all my probs. I had to > remove 23.11 Nvidia drivers using Add/Remove progs. Then I ran theDetonator > Destroyer program, rebooted, installed older Nvidia drivers. Fixed it all. > No more stuttering in any of the games I was having probs w. before. Ididnt

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> know how awesome Ratty Trophy is until doing this. The sense of speed is > excellent. > > Charlie > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yTrT7.203$[email hidden]... > > Very interesting. Thanks! > > > > -Larry > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9vld2b$fvsas$[email hidden]... > > > Hi Larry, > > > > > > it's probably got nothing to do with N4. WinXP seems to have problems > with > > > installing some sorts of drivers, don't know if it's non-WHQL related

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> > > not. > > > > > > The NG's are full of these probs under WinXP, across all hardware > > platforms, > > > VIA/Intel, Intel/Intel, AMD/VIA, etc. It's apparently not limited to > > Nvidia, > > > although that's where it seems to occur most frequently, but that

could

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> be > > > because the Nvidia cards are so widespread, especially in the power > gaming > > > community. But I've read about a case where the installation of new > > > soundcard drivers caused a similar instability. > > > > > > You may want to have a look at your Registry, into > > > "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nv4]" > > > and see if the entry > > > "ImagePath" points to "System32\DRIVERS\nv4.sys". > > > If it does, try changing it to > > > "ImagePath": "System32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys" > > > > > > XP seems to forget to register the latest version of nv4_mini.sys > > correctly, > > > and keeps pointing to the older nv4.sys that belongs to the 12.40 > drivers > > XP > > > installs originally. I'm not sure it'll help you, but it could. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > But since WinXP is the common factor > > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:HicT7.44496$[email hidden]... > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with > them. > > > > > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen > > > locked. > > > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, > and > > > so > > > > far it's been ok. > > > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now > concerning > > > > these drivers, too. > > > > > > > > TIA! > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Though I am not convinced that the 23.11's are a particularly good driver release by nVidia (the complaints all over the web are pretty steady), I think I found the specific problem on my end. There seems to be a problem with ABIT's 5W release of the ABIT KG7 BIOS. There are definite patterns developing over on the ABIT newsgroup, and so far I think eveyone has had their issue resolved by flashing back to the 5E BIOS Rev. My KG7 went back to being the absolute, rock-steady (best AMD I've every used) system board that I was used to. I have not seen a single 3D Gaming freeze since I did it. I'm still sticking with the 22.50 drivers though. I don't hear too many complaints about them and since I'm pushing 80-90fps in N4 I don't need to be greedy for more speed :) -Larry "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I had N4 lockup on me during a league race for the first time last > friday night using 23.11 drivers with XP home. StParadise > > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen

locked. > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, andso

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> > far it's been ok. > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > > these drivers, too. > > > > TIA! > > > > -Larry > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC

Hi Larry, the 23.11 are excellent drivers. Best-ever visual quality. Their prob might be that they tax the systems to the max, squeezing the last bit of performance out of them. Well configured and stable systems can take it, but systems that are not rock solid may run into trouble. Achim "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:u8eU7.22915$[email hidden]...

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> Though I am not convinced that the 23.11's are a particularly good driver > release by nVidia (the complaints all over the web are pretty steady), I > think I found the specific problem on my end. > > There seems to be a problem with ABIT's 5W release of the ABIT KG7 BIOS. > There are definite patterns developing over on the ABIT newsgroup, and so > far I think eveyone has had their issue resolved by flashing back to the

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> BIOS Rev. > > My KG7 went back to being the absolute, rock-steady (best AMD I've every > used) system board that I was used to. I have not seen a single 3D Gaming > freeze since I did it. > > I'm still sticking with the 22.50 drivers though. I don't hear too many > complaints about them and since I'm pushing 80-90fps in N4 I don't need to > be greedy for more speed :) > > -Larry > > "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I had N4 lockup on me during a league race for the first time last > > friday night using 23.11 drivers with XP home. StParadise > > > > > > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with

them. > > > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen > locked. > > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500,and > so > > > far it's been ok. > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right nowconcerning

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> > > these drivers, too. > > > > > > TIA! > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > >

Not for everyone, that is for sure. There are dozens of stories across the net investigating problems with the 23.11 drivers, as well as many, many user complaints. The 23.11's are quite troublesome for many. For me, the 22.50's are working great and I'm developing a new attitude towards these nVidia drivers, especially NEDS. If what I have works, and there's nothing REALLY compelling about the new one's (and it's gotta be more than 5fps improvement), then I'm not budging :) -Larry "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vsbga$hlm76$[email hidden]... > Hi Larry, > > the 23.11 are excellent drivers. Best-ever visual quality. > > Their prob might be that they tax the systems to the max, squeezing thelast > bit of performance out of them. Well configured and stable systems cantake

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> it, but systems that are not rock solid may run into trouble. > > Achim > > > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:u8eU7.22915$[email hidden]... > > Though I am not convinced that the 23.11's are a particularly good

driver > > release by nVidia (the complaints all over the web are pretty steady), I > > think I found the specific problem on my end. > > > > There seems to be a problem with ABIT's 5W release of the ABIT KG7 BIOS. > > There are definite patterns developing over on the ABIT newsgroup, andso > > far I think eveyone has had their issue resolved by flashing back to the > 5E > > BIOS Rev. > > > > My KG7 went back to being the absolute, rock-steady (best AMD I've every > > used) system board that I was used to. I have not seen a single 3DGaming > > freeze since I did it. > > > > I'm still sticking with the 22.50 drivers though. I don't hear too many > > complaints about them and since I'm pushing 80-90fps in N4 I don't needto

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> > be greedy for more speed :) > > > > -Larry > > > > "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I had N4 lockup on me during a league race for the first time last > > > friday night using 23.11 drivers with XP home. StParadise > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with > them. > > > > > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen > > locked. > > > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, > and > > so > > > > far it's been ok. > > > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now > concerning > > > > these drivers, too. > > > > > > > > TIA! > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > >

Hi Larry, I think most of the probs reported about the 23.11 are really with WinXP, and looking at how many probs WinXP has with all sorts of other drivers as well, I'd say it's not that the 23.11 are particularly bad. They're just pulled into the drain by XP's probs. However, I absolutely agree with you that if you have working drivers, there's no need to try others. Of course, people always think the new drivers are better. But, that may not always be the case especially if they are _beta_. Achim "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZLmU7.30527$[email hidden]...

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> Not for everyone, that is for sure. > > There are dozens of stories across the net investigating problems with the > 23.11 drivers, as well as many, many user complaints. > > The 23.11's are quite troublesome for many. > > For me, the 22.50's are working great and I'm developing a new attitude > towards these nVidia drivers, especially NEDS. If what I have works, and > there's nothing REALLY compelling about the new one's (and it's gotta be > more than 5fps improvement), then I'm not budging :) > > -Larry > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9vsbga$hlm76$[email hidden]... > > Hi Larry, > > > > the 23.11 are excellent drivers. Best-ever visual quality. > > > > Their prob might be that they tax the systems to the max, squeezing the > last > > bit of performance out of them. Well configured and stable systems can > take > > it, but systems that are not rock solid may run into trouble. > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:u8eU7.22915$[email hidden]... > > > Though I am not convinced that the 23.11's are a particularly good > driver > > > release by nVidia (the complaints all over the web are pretty steady),

I > > > think I found the specific problem on my end. > > > > > > There seems to be a problem with ABIT's 5W release of the ABIT KG7BIOS. > > > There are definite patterns developing over on the ABIT newsgroup, and > so > > > far I think eveyone has had their issue resolved by flashing back tothe > > 5E > > > BIOS Rev. > > > > > > My KG7 went back to being the absolute, rock-steady (best AMD I'veevery > > > used) system board that I was used to. I have not seen a single 3D > Gaming > > > freeze since I did it. > > > > > > I'm still sticking with the 22.50 drivers though. I don't hear toomany > > > complaints about them and since I'm pushing 80-90fps in N4 I don'tneed

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> to > > > be greedy for more speed :) > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I had N4 lockup on me during a league race for the first time last > > > > friday night using 23.11 drivers with XP home. StParadise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11

drivers? > > > > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > > > > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with > > them. > > > > > > > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with thescreen > > > locked. > > > > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on thecomputer. > > > > > > > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3Ti500,

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> > and > > > so > > > > > far it's been ok. > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now > > concerning > > > > > these drivers, too. > > > > > > > > > > TIA! > > > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC > > > > > > > > > > > >

These two things happened to me: 1. When installing the 23.11 drivers in WinXP, I get an error message stating that "these drivers have not been tested with Windows XP and Microsoft strongly suggests stopping the installation" When I stop the installation my card won't configure in N4 properly. When telling it to continue installation it does configure, but...... 2. My framerates have dropped in half, from 40 fps to 20. After hearing all the great things from people about how much Windows XP boosted their gaming framerates, I've concluded they are liars. LOL Gary "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I had N4 lockup on me during a league race for the first time last > friday night using 23.11 drivers with XP home. StParadise > > > > > Is anyone having serious problems with nVidia's Det-4 23.11 drivers? > > Particularly with XP and N4 ? > > > > I've also noted that Flight Simulator 2002 is none too stable with them. > > > > N4 will run for a period of time, but then crash-out with the screen

locked. > > The only way to recover is to mash the reset button on the computer. > > > > I wen't back to the 22.50 drivers that came with my GeForce 3 Ti500, andso

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> > far it's been ok. > > > > There seems to be a lot of chatter all over the net right now concerning > > these drivers, too. > > > > TIA! > > > > -Larry > > > > KG7/512MB/WinXP/AthlonXP1800+/TBSC