MOMO + F1 2001: no Force Feedback (long)

I've installed F1 2001, patched it with version 1.0.2.4, updated that with 1.0.4.5, but there's still no force feedback on my MOMO wheel. In the f1 2001 menu, the wheel appears as Logitech MOMO Force USB (something like that), but when I click on the controller icon below (to set the buttons, pedals, etc), there is no force feedback setting to choose. I've downloaded the advanced FF menu (http://www.rsdg.net/Downloads_Patches.htm), but to no avail. With this file, I get the force feedback icon (shaky joystick), but when I click on it (or click on the arrow beside it), there's nothing there. It's as if the game thinks my controller has no force feedback. Apart from this, it works ok. I've read in the 'advanced options.doc' that you can also edit the *.plr file, with FF settings, but my *.plr file has no settings like that. I've copied the controller settings from my *.plr below. I've tried setting ForceFeedback=0 to ForceFeedback=1 ...but that didn't do anything. What am I doing wrong? Do I need some other patch? I'm running XP Pro by the way. Cheers, Ice D [CONTROLS] JoystickSensitivity=(0.50) KeyboardSensitivity=(0.10) JoystickDeadZone=(0.05) ForceFeedback=0 UseRSShifter=0 UseIndividualAxisSettings=1 AxisSetting_00_00_00=(0.00) AxisSetting_00_00_01=(0.35) AxisSetting_00_01_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_00_01_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_00_02_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_00_02_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_00_03_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_00_03_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_00_04_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_00_04_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_00_05_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_00_05_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_01_00_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_01_00_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_01_01_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_01_01_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_01_02_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_01_02_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_01_03_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_01_03_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_01_04_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_01_04_01=(0.50) AxisSetting_01_05_00=(0.05) AxisSetting_01_05_01=(0.50) SteerRight=(1,1) SteerLeft=(1,2) Accelerate=(1,6) Brake=(1,12) ShiftUp=(1,14) ShiftDown=(1,13) ClutchIn=(0,16) RearLook=(1,18) LookLeft=(1,15) LookRight=(1,16) BiasForward=(0,26) BiasRearward=(0,27) SpeedLimiter=(1,17) InstantReplay=(0,19) CycleDisplayMode=(0,28) PitRequest=(0,31) PitMenuUp=(0,200) PitMenuDown=(0,208) PitMenuIncrement=(0,205) PitMenuDecrement=(0,203) RestartRace=(0,21) PAUSE=(1,19)

The ff icon should be to the right of the joystick 1 and joystick2 icons. Are you sure it's not there? Some people have not noticed it. David G Fisher "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9o9V7.9$[email hidden]... > I've installed F1 2001, patched it with version 1.0.2.4, updated that with > 1.0.4.5, but there's still no force feedback on my MOMO wheel. In the f1 > 2001 menu, the wheel appears as Logitech MOMO Force USB (something like > that), but when I click on the controller icon below (to set the buttons, > pedals, etc), there is no force feedback setting to choose. I'vedownloaded > the advanced FF menu (http://www.rsdg.net/Downloads_Patches.htm), but tono > avail. With this file, I get the force feedback icon (shaky joystick), but > when I click on it (or click on the arrow beside it), there's nothingthere.

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> It's as if the game thinks my controller has no force feedback. Apart from > this, it works ok. > > I've read in the 'advanced options.doc' that you can also edit the *.plr > file, with FF settings, but my *.plr file has no settings like that. I've > copied the controller settings from my *.plr below. I've tried setting > > ForceFeedback=0 > > to > > ForceFeedback=1 > > ...but that didn't do anything. > > What am I doing wrong? Do I need some other patch? I'm running XP Pro by

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> way. > > Cheers, > > Ice D > > > > [CONTROLS] > > JoystickSensitivity=(0.50) > > KeyboardSensitivity=(0.10) > > JoystickDeadZone=(0.05) > > ForceFeedback=0 > > UseRSShifter=0 > > UseIndividualAxisSettings=1 > > AxisSetting_00_00_00=(0.00) > > AxisSetting_00_00_01=(0.35) > > AxisSetting_00_01_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_01_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_02_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_02_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_03_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_03_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_04_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_04_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_05_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_05_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_00_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_00_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_01_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_01_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_02_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_02_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_03_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_03_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_04_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_04_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_05_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_05_01=(0.50) > > SteerRight=(1,1) > > SteerLeft=(1,2) > > Accelerate=(1,6) > > Brake=(1,12) > > ShiftUp=(1,14) > > ShiftDown=(1,13) > > ClutchIn=(0,16) > > RearLook=(1,18) > > LookLeft=(1,15) > > LookRight=(1,16) > > BiasForward=(0,26) > > BiasRearward=(0,27) > > SpeedLimiter=(1,17) > > InstantReplay=(0,19) > > CycleDisplayMode=(0,28) > > PitRequest=(0,31) > > PitMenuUp=(0,200) > > PitMenuDown=(0,208) > > PitMenuIncrement=(0,205) > > PitMenuDecrement=(0,203) > > RestartRace=(0,21) > > PAUSE=(1,19) > > > > >

You need to patch it to version 1.074 - this is the patch released by EA/ISI, and is the only patch which supports FF. Get it here: http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=768 briGuy "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9o9V7.9$[email hidden]... > I've installed F1 2001, patched it with version 1.0.2.4, updated that with > 1.0.4.5, but there's still no force feedback on my MOMO wheel. In the f1 > 2001 menu, the wheel appears as Logitech MOMO Force USB (something like > that), but when I click on the controller icon below (to set the buttons, > pedals, etc), there is no force feedback setting to choose. I'vedownloaded > the advanced FF menu (http://www.rsdg.net/Downloads_Patches.htm), but tono > avail. With this file, I get the force feedback icon (shaky joystick), but > when I click on it (or click on the arrow beside it), there's nothingthere.

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> It's as if the game thinks my controller has no force feedback. Apart from > this, it works ok. > > I've read in the 'advanced options.doc' that you can also edit the *.plr > file, with FF settings, but my *.plr file has no settings like that. I've > copied the controller settings from my *.plr below. I've tried setting > > ForceFeedback=0 > > to > > ForceFeedback=1 > > ...but that didn't do anything. > > What am I doing wrong? Do I need some other patch? I'm running XP Pro by

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> way. > > Cheers, > > Ice D > > > > [CONTROLS] > > JoystickSensitivity=(0.50) > > KeyboardSensitivity=(0.10) > > JoystickDeadZone=(0.05) > > ForceFeedback=0 > > UseRSShifter=0 > > UseIndividualAxisSettings=1 > > AxisSetting_00_00_00=(0.00) > > AxisSetting_00_00_01=(0.35) > > AxisSetting_00_01_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_01_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_02_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_02_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_03_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_03_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_04_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_04_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_00_05_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_00_05_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_00_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_00_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_01_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_01_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_02_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_02_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_03_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_03_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_04_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_04_01=(0.50) > > AxisSetting_01_05_00=(0.05) > > AxisSetting_01_05_01=(0.50) > > SteerRight=(1,1) > > SteerLeft=(1,2) > > Accelerate=(1,6) > > Brake=(1,12) > > ShiftUp=(1,14) > > ShiftDown=(1,13) > > ClutchIn=(0,16) > > RearLook=(1,18) > > LookLeft=(1,15) > > LookRight=(1,16) > > BiasForward=(0,26) > > BiasRearward=(0,27) > > SpeedLimiter=(1,17) > > InstantReplay=(0,19) > > CycleDisplayMode=(0,28) > > PitRequest=(0,31) > > PitMenuUp=(0,200) > > PitMenuDown=(0,208) > > PitMenuIncrement=(0,205) > > PitMenuDecrement=(0,203) > > RestartRace=(0,21) > > PAUSE=(1,19) > > > > >

"briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message news:a03l3s$30j$[email hidden]... > You need to patch it to version 1.074 - this is the patch released by > EA/ISI, and is the only patch which supports FF. Get it here: > http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=768 That's the one, thanks. Force Feedback works, it feels quite good. I have it set to minus 50% right now, I'll probably do some more tweaking. I like the way the MOMO wheel starts shaking when you pull your hands off on a fast straight... you really shoudn't do that in a F1 car :) Cheers, Ice D

No prob, Ice. BTW, the FF effects are fully customizable throught the .plr player file. If you have some time, check out these threads on the High Gear forums: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29583&high light=momo http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30468&high light=momo P.s.: Also, make sure you have the latest 4.11c Logi drivers from the website (www.wingmanteam.com). The ones that come with the wheel have a bug that doesn't properly center the wheel... briGuy "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:C5kV7.901$[email hidden]...

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> > "briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message > news:a03l3s$30j$[email hidden]... > > You need to patch it to version 1.074 - this is the patch released by > > EA/ISI, and is the only patch which supports FF. Get it here: > > http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=768 > > That's the one, thanks. Force Feedback works, it feels quite good. I have

it > set to minus 50% right now, I'll probably do some more tweaking. I likethe

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> way the MOMO wheel starts shaking when you pull your hands off on a fast > straight... you really shoudn't do that in a F1 car :) > > Cheers, > > Ice D > > >

Cheers, I've bookmarked the sites. Gonna try out those Garrsion settings. I did a clean install of 4.11c today, btw. Ice D "briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message news:a04s5p$f9k$[email hidden]... > No prob, Ice. BTW, the FF effects are fully customizable throught the.plr > player file. If you have some time, check out these threads on the High > Gear forums: > >http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29583&high > light=momo >http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30468&high > light=momo > > P.s.: Also, make sure you have the latest 4.11c Logi drivers from the > website (www.wingmanteam.com). The ones that come with the wheel have abug

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> that doesn't properly center the wheel... > > briGuy > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:C5kV7.901$[email hidden]... > > > > "briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message > > news:a03l3s$30j$[email hidden]... > > > You need to patch it to version 1.074 - this is the patch released by > > > EA/ISI, and is the only patch which supports FF. Get it here: > > > http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=768 > > > > That's the one, thanks. Force Feedback works, it feels quite good. I

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> it > > set to minus 50% right now, I'll probably do some more tweaking. I like > the > > way the MOMO wheel starts shaking when you pull your hands off on a fast > > straight... you really shoudn't do that in a F1 car :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ice D > > > > > > > >

"briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote: > No prob, Ice. BTW, the FF effects are fully customizable throught the.plr > player file. If you have some time, check out these threads on the High > Gear forums: > >http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29583&high > light=momo >http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30468&high > light=momo I'm using those 'Garisson' settings now. I just changed his positive FF level to negative level (-65), which felt better to me. It's very good, the steering is pretty heavy, but quite stable. It really feels like you're driving a very powerful car. Along with the nice graphics, this makes for an excellent game! I guess I'll take back some negative things I've said about this game before.. :) Merry X-mas, Ice D