Why GPL - show off or swank????

I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in stores. I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. -- -- Mvh E.L.

Hello Emerson Just a wild stab in the dark, but I'd guess GPL doesn't look like this on your rig: http://jfcarsets.cjb.net/ http://www.andre-gpl-texture.racesim.net/leipzig.html Do you have a 3D card? Emerson Lauda wrote:

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> > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2.

Mvh, Your kidding aren't you ? Joel Willstein -- "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn , then you have enough horsepower." Mark Donohue "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

Hard to believe some wanker who fancies himself "Emerson Lauda" would have a prob w. showing off. Sheesh. "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause

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> the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

Hard to believe some ***er who fancies himself "Emerson Lauda" would have a prob w. showing off. Sheesh.

DGF is that you ?? naah you have so much more class :) Mikkel PS: just kidding DFG... no offense intended. Emerson Lauda <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause

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> the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

"Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... <Snip!> > Mvh > E.L. >Hi Emerson(?) You being a Dane, you should take a look at http://www.simracing.dk or perhaps http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=10 which is our official forum. Not just for crusty old sims like GPL - we have everything worth driving, especially online! Cheers, Jens

Emerson, This isn't a game at all, it's a "simulator" which means it simulates driving a race car. This game is so popular because it is very realistic, as far as the physics go. The graphics are continually improving with all the add-ons by sim drivers. It's not very funny to drive, but it is tremendous fun, because of the tremendous challenge provided by its reality, and for a lot of us GPL drivers it's the closest we'll get to racing real cars. BH Emerson Lauda <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause

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> the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

>"Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote > It is ugly Bzzzzt. It's still the most beautiful racing sim at the moment. > has a terrible sound Yeah compared to...? > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". Hello DGF. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/yves.menard/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

DUCK! dave henrie "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now,

"Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now Well, that might be the source of your problems... > patched it to newest > version, And no other patches? No GPLEA, no soundpack, no extra tracks? > but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. I guess not on the above. > It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. Definitely not on the above then; and even with the stock sounds, I'd never, ever, ever call any of the sounds of those cars terrible. Come on; the Honda V12, Ferrari V12, BRM H16, Repco V8, Cosworth V8, the Weslake V12...you just don't get much of a better-sounding group than that. Something tells me you find the sound of an unmuffled Civic rather pleasant. *gag* And likewise, I'd never call a Lotus 49 or Brabham BT24 'funny to drive'...I'd call them some of the most beautiful and high-performing pieces of art on the face of this earth. I have to wonder about what someone considers 'fun to drive' if one of those isn't...let me guess, a Civic again? 'Cause, you know, getting sideways is never ever ever any fun, so use a front-wheel-drive and take that possibility right out... > My guess is, that it is just to show > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". If the game were really as bad as you say, that'd mean nothing. The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. Your point being? It was added, after all, along with Direct3D, not out of market demand, but out of the love for this game by some programmers at Papyrus. > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. I'm not surprised a single soul has yet to agree with you. > Mvh > E.L. Milhouse

Emerson Lauda <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > Hello, Mr Troll. -- - Will DeRivera - GPL Rank 105.63 - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com - Hi, I'm a sig virus. - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the world.

Wow how did you guess? I drive GPL purely for status and to brag. When I go out and hang in the bars, all the other guys have lame pickup lines, but me,, haha I have GPL ,, something like "hey baby whats your name, oh and by the way my best lap at Nurnburgring is 7:35, so can I get your number? :rolleyes: sounds to me like your just getting frustrated at how difficult GPL can be but there in lies its beauty... Have you ever seen a group of people so passionate about a 3 year old game ? More here then just show off or swank :-) No other sim gets your blood pumping or your adrenaline flowing like GPL, sometimes its hard to believe its just a sim.. On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 03:43:11 GMT, "Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... >> I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now > >Well, that might be the source of your problems... > >> patched it to newest >> version, > >And no other patches? No GPLEA, no soundpack, no extra tracks? > >> but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a >> great sim. > >I guess not on the above. > >> It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and >> these old cars are not funny to drive. > >Definitely not on the above then; and even with the stock sounds, I'd never, >ever, ever call any of the sounds of those cars terrible. Come on; the Honda >V12, Ferrari V12, BRM H16, Repco V8, Cosworth V8, the Weslake V12...you just >don't get much of a better-sounding group than that. Something tells me you >find the sound of an unmuffled Civic rather pleasant. *gag* > >And likewise, I'd never call a Lotus 49 or Brabham BT24 'funny to >drive'...I'd call them some of the most beautiful and high-performing pieces >of art on the face of this earth. I have to wonder about what someone >considers 'fun to drive' if one of those isn't...let me guess, a Civic >again? 'Cause, you know, getting sideways is never ever ever any fun, so >use a front-wheel-drive and take that possibility right out... > >> My guess is, that it is just to show >> off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". > >If the game were really as bad as you say, that'd mean nothing. > >The support for Force Feedback is lousy >> unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is >because >> the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in >> stores. > >Your point being? It was added, after all, along with Direct3D, not out of >market demand, but out of the love for this game by some programmers at >Papyrus. > >> I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > >I'm not surprised a single soul has yet to agree with you. > >> Mvh >> E.L. > >Milhouse > >

For shame! How dare you talk down GPL. Thirty years from now the same ten people still will be talking about GPL this and GPL that. And VROC this and VROC that. And Papy this and Papy that. And Cart this and Cart that. It's the same BS over and over and over. It's the Civ III of GPL. Alanb

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What a surprise that you slam the game and never return. You've got TROLL written all over you. The gfx are fantastic, the force feedback aftertweaked for your wheel is very realistic, and the car physics model is pretty accurate, what more so you want in a SIM? Sounds like you should go back to your arcade console games, since you have not bothered to reference any sims you find better than GPL. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Emerson Lauda <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

heehee, its actually a TROLL! -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Ben Coleman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2aaaff$[email hidden]... > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:6NwW7.248$NE5.2613@rwcrnsc53... > > DUCK! > > dave henrie > > No, I think it's a goose.... > > Ben > > > "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > > > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, > > > > > >

In article <3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]>, "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest >version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a >great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and >these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show >off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy >unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because >the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in >stores. > >I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2.

You're right - the standard graphics don't compare to some current games. Maybe not the sound, either(although it's hardly 'terrible'). I don't have FF, so I can't comment on how easy or difficult it is to configure. But people still like the program. There are graphics and sound upgrades available on the 'net, and people continue to create new tracks to run. Have you tried any of the add-ons? You might find something to interest you. I'm not sure how it's showing off to say you drive GPL. Is it showing off to say you drive F1 2001, or RT, or Viper racing? It's just a game you play... Besides, there are people who still play GP2 and ICR2...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

DGF's apprentice, "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote > Thirty years from now the same ten people still will be talking about GPLthis ...and thirty years from now the same 2 people still will be talking about people talking about GPL this and people talking about GPL that. > It's the same BS over and over and over. Yep, you write the same BS over and over and over. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/yves.menard/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

<Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Wow how did you guess? I drive GPL purely for status and to brag. When > I go out and hang in the bars, all the other guys have lame pickup > lines, but me,, haha I have GPL ,, something like "hey baby whats your > name, oh and by the way my best lap at Nurnburgring is 7:35, so can I > get your number? :rolleyes: LOL. If it were only that easy. "Hey baby...I'm under 8 minutes..." Milhouse

Ok, all. I must say I'm not too far from "Emerson Lauda", but I have only the standard upgrades, and the graphis is NOT very nice. All these addons you write about, where do I find them? Not on Sierras web-site. Has someone a link to Force-feedback (with explanation, as I understand it is quite difficult to set up. I have a MS Forcefeedback wheel the USB model), D3d graphics, new graphics to tracks, sky, cars aso? After what you all writes it can maybe be a really nice game after all. I do wishes though it was sportscars and not these suicidebombs (many drivers was actually killed in these F1 cars). And the link (s) is???? -- -- Mvh Sven

Alan Bernardo wrote: > > For shame! How dare you talk down GPL. Thirty years from now the same ten > people still will be talking about GPL this and GPL that. And VROC this and > VROC that. And Papy this and Papy that. And Cart this and Cart that. Yeah, and you'll still be a twat! > It's the same BS over and over and over. Yeah, from you! Condescendingly yours GA

Sven wrote: > -- > > -- > Mvh > Sven And Emerson Lauda also wrote in a very similar fashion: > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. You've been rumbled, son!

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:06:34 +0100, "Sven" <[email hidden]> wrote: >After what you all writes it can maybe be a really nice game after all. I do >wishes though it was sportscars and not these suicidebombs (many drivers was >actually killed in these F1 cars). > >And the link (s) is???? http://www.legendscentral.com/gplintro.shtml (beginners guide to GPL by Phil Lee) and http://www.noctua.f2s.com/links.html (especially check out the first column) The upgrades make a huge difference on the looks of GPL. After you upgrade GPL will certainly be a really nice game :) Andre

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:40:13 +0000, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >Alan Bernardo wrote: >> >> For shame! How dare you talk down GPL. Thirty years from now the same ten >> people still will be talking about GPL this and GPL that. And VROC this and >> VROC that. And Papy this and Papy that. And Cart this and Cart that. > >Yeah, and you'll still be a twat! > >> It's the same BS over and over and over. > >Yeah, from you! > >Condescendingly yours > >GA

Hey.. I missed Alans original post. Thank God I might add. Andre

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> > http://www.legendscentral.com/gplintro.shtml (beginners guide to GPL > by Phil Lee) > > and > > http://www.noctua.f2s.com/links.html (especially check out the first > column) > > The upgrades make a huge difference on the looks of GPL. > After you upgrade GPL will certainly be a really nice game :) > > Andre

Thank you for the link. I'll try them out for sure. -- -- Mvh Sven

"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Sven wrote: > > > -- > > > > -- > > Mvh > > Sven > > And Emerson Lauda also wrote in a very similar fashion: > > > -- > > > > -- > > Mvh > > E.L. > > You've been rumbled, son!

Not sure what you are meaning? -- -- Mvh Sven

Geez... Spend more time with it. Get to know GP racing of the era so you'll have a better understanding of "those old cars" (rolling my eyes as I write that). Practice with easy to handle setups in the Cooper F1 or maybe the F2s. As long as you're not a hardcore arcade fan you'll soon figure out why so many of us love it so. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten System Specs: http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/m/v/mvwooten/system.txt ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

Sven wrote:

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> > You've been rumbled, son! > > Not sure what you are meaning? > > -- > > -- > Mvh > Sven

Your sig is so similar to Emerson's that it leads me to believe that you and him are one and the same person.

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> I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to show > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2.

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> > Your sig is so similar to Emerson's that it leads me to believe that you > and him are one and the same person. Oh, I see. The Mvh is a Danish shortning for With kind regards (Med venlig hilsen) and is used by a lot of Danes. And no, He (or she??) and me is NOT the same person :o) -- -- Mvh Sven

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> > > > > Your sig is so similar to Emerson's that it leads me to believe that you > > and him are one and the same person. > > Oh, I see. The Mvh is a Danish shortning for With kind regards (Med venlig > hilsen) and is used by a lot of Danes. And no, He (or she??) and me is NOT > the same person :o) > > -- > > -- > Mvh > Sven

Yeah I understand that, but: > -- > > -- The above is just too much of a coincidence for me, because it also appears in Emerson's sig. See below. Emerson Lauda wrote: > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. Now compare that again with your own, below. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > Sven You are he, IMO of course. Gerry

"Milhouse" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now > > Well, that might be the source of your problems... > > > patched it to newest > > version, > > And no other patches? No GPLEA, no soundpack, no extra tracks?

every six months or so, I feel like having another go at GPL. I can sense I'm nearing one of these pathetic events now, so; does anyone have a semi-exhaustive lists of patches and, uh, "stuff" one can't live without? btw; has anyone done a mod to race newer cars in GPL? or maybe '67 cars on current tires. that'd be fun. I think. or maybe not. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 myk, trygg og god.

Sven <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2b321a$0$222$[email hidden]... > Oh, I see. The Mvh is a Danish shortning for With kind regards (Med venlig > hilsen) and is used by a lot of Danes. And no, He (or she??) and me is NOT > the same person :o) > Mvh > Sven Hi Sven, drop by the danish section at http://www.racesimcentral.com , or have a look at http://www.simracing.dk/gpl/info.htm we are currently about 110 danish GPL'er there, and new faces are always welcome. We'll teach you to love GPL like any good simmer should ;) Mikkel Gram-Hansen

Uh, folks... Noticed that "Emerson" has disappeared? Can you say "troll"?

I'm only a casual GPL racer, and even _I_ disagree with most of what you posted. GPL's strength's are it's accurate modeling of the handling of a 1967 Grand Prix Racer. If you don't like the way they handle, then there's always Need For Speed - High Stakes. The Force-Feedback in GPL is the most realistic available in ANY SIM right now. It adds more to the ability to drive the car than anything I've ever seen in a SIM. Finally, I have seen a LOT uglier 3D games than GPL :) -Larry "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause

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> the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

Guys, This was a Hit & Run. Let it go... -Larry "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound, and > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just toshow > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That isbecause

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> the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > stores. > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > -- > > -- > Mvh > E.L. > >

>"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote > You are he, IMO of course. Yes, he was the troll. I pity him coming back as "himself" and try to ask for normal help. He badly trolled. From: "Sven" <[email hidden]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.10.91.191 X-Trace: 1009451261 news.stofanet.dk 210 212.10.91.191 X-Complaints-To: Telia Stofa Abuse <[email hidden]> Xref: nf1.bellglobal.com rec.autos.simulators:397654 From: "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.10.91.191 X-Trace: 1009414980 news.stofanet.dk 260 212.10.91.191 X-Complaints-To: Telia Stofa Abuse <[email hidden]> Xref: nf1.bellglobal.com rec.autos.simulators:397584 -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/yves.menard/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Hmm... I still didn't bother to put any graphic updates either. It took me some efforts to setup force feedback properly. I don't have (or at least didn't before GPL) interest in that era of racing. But the driving experience as well as online racing in GPL is superb and this is the main thing in the driving sim for me. I would guess that's the main reason why we consider it a great sim. Alex. "Sven" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3c2b00fd$0$210$[email hidden]:

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> Ok, all. I must say I'm not too far from "Emerson Lauda", but I have > only the standard upgrades, and the graphis is NOT very nice. All these > addons you write about, where do I find them? Not on Sierras web-site. > Has someone a link to Force-feedback (with explanation, as I understand > it is quite difficult to set up. I have a MS Forcefeedback wheel the > USB model), D3d graphics, new graphics to tracks, sky, cars aso? > After what you all writes it can maybe be a really nice game after all. > I do wishes though it was sportscars and not these suicidebombs (many > drivers was actually killed in these F1 cars). > > And the link (s) is???? > -- > > -- > Mvh > Sven > > > >

Don't bother please, you seem to miss the entire point to playing GPL.. Here are the two websites that offer just about everything in patches and add-ons. http://gplpp.com/ for add-ons http://www.noctua.f2s.com/links.html for the Ultimate link guide -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Milhouse" <[email hidden]> writes: > > "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > > > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now > > > > Well, that might be the source of your problems... > > > > > patched it to newest > > > version, > > > > And no other patches? No GPLEA, no soundpack, no extra tracks? > > every six months or so, I feel like having another go at GPL. I can > sense I'm nearing one of these pathetic events now, so; does anyone > have a semi-exhaustive lists of patches and, uh, "stuff" one can't > live without? > > btw; has anyone done a mod to race newer cars in GPL? or maybe '67 > cars on current tires. that'd be fun. I think. or maybe not. > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > myk, trygg og god.

Ok, I was a troll yesterday night (local time was 2 AM) influenced by a lot of Christmas beer and annoyed by this game (GPL) because of soundproblems (Windows XP <> SB Audigy), and none of the patches I found worked, the game run slowly and unsteady framerate, because I did not know of the CPU-fix patch (the www.papy.com is still unavailable to me), but everyone wrote "Oh, a nice game, great game, good sound, nice graphics" aso, and I sit here with a Geforce 3, 1610 Mhz T.bird (1400@1610 11,5*140), with lousy sound, poor graphic, and too drunk to drive (even in a sim). Now the framerate is OK, but the sound is still not good. Clicks and crakles in the enginesound, funny though, mostly when driving alone. I have now used most of the day, getting patches, new sounds, tested, but the FF is still "abnormal" I can't get the right values, and the sound is still teasing me. The graphics is somewhat around a Quake2 standard, still a long way to RtCW. So I will leave you with your GPL, and go back to GP3 Season 2000, and I will wait for GP4. But, nomatter how lousy I was, I still feel this almost religious thing some of you have about GPL. If you don't think this game is a gift from God, then you are off. And with all these patches, and repairs there has to be done for this game to run on a modern PC, I really wanted to know if it was worth it or not. Some flightsimmers still play USNF (in the old DOS-version), and they are also religious about it, but they admit, that this game is ugly, and oldfashioned, but they love it anyway. I'm sorry I took your time. -- Mvh Sven

Oh, forgot the most important: Thank you to all of you who tried to help in spite of my bad maners. EOD from here. -- Mvh Sven

Disclaimer: *Caution!*, this reply may contain sarcasm. "Emerson Lauda" wrote... > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched > it to newest version, but I really don't see why so many > people think this is such a great sim. > It is ugly (compared to todays games) So? -Eyecandy without substance is entertaining for... oh, all of 5 minutes? -Besides, there's already more community add-on eyecandy than my video card can handle. So lighten up and start downloading. > has a terrible sound, Hmmm... a matter of taste perhaps and a soundpack does wonders. I can't even remember what the originals sounded like. > and these old cars are not funny to drive. You're right... it's no fun at all! -lol. ;-) > My guess is, that it is just to show off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". Sure, hundreds of people spend countless hours practising their driving, creating add-ons and writing utilities just to belong to the GPL community. > The support for Force Feedback is lousy unless you spend > hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is because > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game > was sold in stores. Put it this way, the game allows you to get good FF, provided you take the time to tweak the settings. Which is more than can be said for most games that ship with FF support. Do like I did, ask someone who's got the same controller and more time on their hands than they know what to do with. > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. We might all be surprised. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

No hard feelings.. give it a shot, it IS worth the effort IMHO Mikkel Sven <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2ba4b6$0$256$[email hidden]...

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> Oh, forgot the most important: > Thank you to all of you who tried to help in spite of my bad maners. > > EOD from here. > > -- > Mvh > Sven > > > >

Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Disclaimer: *Caution!*, this reply may contain sarcasm. > > has a terrible sound, > > Hmmm... a matter of taste perhaps and a soundpack does wonders. I can'teven > remember what the originals sounded like. Jan if you can't remember the awesome original Ferrari sound... SHAME on you ! That is still the sweetest sounding ride in any game ever. Mikkel

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> > From: "Sven" <[email hidden]> > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.10.91.191 > X-Trace: 1009451261 news.stofanet.dk 210 212.10.91.191 > X-Complaints-To: Telia Stofa Abuse <[email hidden]> > Xref: nf1.bellglobal.com rec.autos.simulators:397654 > > From: "Emerson Lauda" <[email hidden]> > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.10.91.191 > X-Trace: 1009414980 news.stofanet.dk 260 212.10.91.191 > X-Complaints-To: Telia Stofa Abuse <[email hidden]> > Xref: nf1.bellglobal.com rec.autos.simulators:397584 >

lmao...pretty damn neat trick how he got the same ip address. Glad i'm not the only one who noticed how similar that sig was, too. Busted! -- - Will DeRivera - GPL Rank 105.63 - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com - Hi, I'm a sig virus. - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the world.

Sven <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2ba268$0$225$[email hidden]... > Ok, I was a troll yesterday night (local time was 2 AM) influenced by alot > of Christmas beer and annoyed by this game (GPL) because of soundproblems > (Windows XP <> SB Audigy), and none of the patches I found worked, thegame > run slowly and unsteady framerate, because I did not know of the CPU-fix > patch (the www.papy.com is still unavailable to me), but everyone wrote > "Oh, a nice game, great game, good sound, nice graphics" aso, and I sithere > with a Geforce 3, 1610 Mhz T.bird (1400@1610 11,5*140), with lousy sound, > poor graphic, and too drunk to drive (even in a sim). Now the framerate is > OK, but the sound is still not good. Clicks and crakles in theenginesound, > funny though, mostly when driving alone. I have now used most of the day, > getting patches, new sounds, tested, but the FF is still "abnormal" Ican't > get the right values, and the sound is still teasing me. The graphics is > somewhat around a Quake2 standard, still a long way to RtCW. So I willleave > you with your GPL, and go back to GP3 Season 2000, and I will wait forGP4. > I don't recall anyone caliming that the game is a gorgeous, perfect modern (in pc terms) sim. It's far from it. Out of the box, it's ugly...hell, it should be, the sim is three years old! PC power has tripled in that time! It certainly was amazing three years ago graphically. Part of the beauty of this sim is the support from the community. With all the stuff out there, GPL can be turned into a great looking sim. From what i've read in numerous places around the 'net, you're not the only one having problems with the XP-Audigy combo...and not just in GPL at that. IMO, by far the greatest reason a lot of us care so much for the sim is that it's still the best, most pure simulation out there. Some are arguing that F1 2001 is poised to take it's place, but i haven't tried it yet so i don't have room to comment on that. I still suck at GPL, but it's still my favorite...and this comes from a stock car nut. lol. -- - Will DeRivera - GPL Rank 105.63 - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com - Hi, I'm a sig virus. - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the world.

Yep burn on the God of sims and watch the fur fly!! Greg31 GPL rank...uhhhh...you mean without the Ring? Larry (The Other Larry) wrote in message ... >Guys, > >This was a Hit & Run. Let it go... > >-Larry

"Sven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<3c2ba268$0$225$[email hidden]>... > But, nomatter how lousy I was, I still feel this almost religious thing some > of you have about GPL. If you don't think this game is a gift from God, then > you are off. And with all these patches, and repairs there has to be done > for this game to run on a modern PC, I really wanted to know if it was worth > it or not. Hey there. I'm definitely in the minority when it comes to this opinion, but I think the graphics in Grand Prix Legends are excellent even in the original incarnation. The thing is, when designing a driving simulation, you either need to sacrifice realism and detail in the physics model or detail of graphics and sound. Most people won't ackowledge that, but if you think about it logically you're dealing with a finite amount of system resources. While a fast 3-D accelerator will ease the load substantially, increased graphical detail will still eat CPU cycles. That said, I'll give you my recommendations for improving the graphics. I can't offer help in the sound department because I find the sounds to be excellent (even if the Coventry is a sample of a small block Chevy). First, check out legends of 67. www.legendsof67.free-online.co.uk They have tons of great information on making GPL as close to the real 1967 Formula One season as possible. I use the graphic addon recommendations they have listed for the original GPL tracks and they work really well. I also would install GPL Season and the season file with the Cooper/Honda fixes. For cars, I recommend sticking to those being made by the GPLEA. www.gplea.org They're free of clipping/texture problems and are absolutely top notch. It's possible, I suppose, that there are cars being made that look even nicer but with the GPLEA you know that what you're getting is high quality. They're still working on the Honda/Cooper patches, but I am confident they'll be great. As for tracks, I'm really picky. However, if you've just purchased the game, I do not recommend getting addon tracks yet. Some will argue with me, but for the first few weeks/months you'll have your hands full just learning the 11 tracks that came with the game. Then again, I've had the game for 2 years and I'm struggling with 1:31's at Monza so I'm probably not a good person to make a recommendation here. When you are ready for new tracks, check www.gplpp.com which has links to every available track for GPL, as well as information on tracks in development and so forth. My current favorites are the East German tracks Andre released at http://www.andre-gpl-texture.racesim.net/ Nothing comes close in terms of professionalism and attention to detail. I hope you're having fun with this game. There is not an open wheeled sim available that rivals the realism of GPL, and having some pretty images to look at makes it all the more enjoyable. Still, my biggest advice would be to read through Steve Smith's wonderfully written manual and practice until the subtleties in the physics engine start to appear. Once you've reached that point, things start getting fun and you'll see why we all make such a big deal over it. =) Jason

Notice I haven't said a word. :-) David G Fisher "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0e053$2ma9$[email hidden]...

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> DGF is that you ?? > naah you have so much more class :) > > Mikkel > > PS: just kidding DFG... no offense intended. > > Emerson Lauda <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3c2a7344$0$260$[email hidden]... > > I've got this "game" GPL for quite a while now, patched it to newest > > version, but I really don't see why so many people think this is such a > > great sim. It is ugly (compared to todays games) has a terrible sound,

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> > these old cars are not funny to drive. My guess is, that it is just to > show > > off and say "I'm a GPL-driver". The support for Force Feedback is lousy > > unless you spend hours and hours to tweak it to your wheel. That is > because > > the game is so old, that FF was not invented when this game was sold in > > stores. > > > > I'm NOT surprised there has never been a GPL2. > > > > -- > > > > -- > > Mvh > > E.L. > > > > > >

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:35:17 +0100, "Sven" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ok, I was a troll yesterday night (local time was 2 AM) influenced by a lot >of Christmas beer and annoyed by this game (GPL) because of soundproblems Don't drink and post buddy.. >get the right values, and the sound is still teasing me. The graphics is >somewhat around a Quake2 standard, still a long way to RtCW. So I will leave >you with your GPL, and go back to GP3 Season 2000, and I will wait for GP4. Hmm.. it seems that you are not able to appreciate GPL for what it is because you have all these problems. Just to show you how GPL looks and sounds like after you correctly updated it, download and watch this movie: http://www.gplegends.net/movies/9801.avi It starts with the original GPL, and then step by step all the cars, tracks and scenerys transform into the latest versions. Amazing difference, believe me :) The movie is 40mb though, I hope you're not on dial-up :) >But, nomatter how lousy I was, I still feel this almost religious thing some >of you have about GPL. Because for many of us GPL still delivers the best overall driving experience and the most overall fun. I liked F1 2001 very much too, even though it was very buggy pre-patch. But I hardly play it anymore, simply because I can't play it online in a normal way. I had a couple of online F1 2001 races and the quality was very poor with many bugs. In GPL you have flawless online races with 20 players. Especially in league races with experienced drivers this is a fantastic experience. >If you don't think this game is a gift from God, then >you are off. Exactly ;) >And with all these patches, and repairs there has to be done >for this game to run on a modern PC, I really wanted to know if it was worth >it or not. Some flightsimmers still play USNF (in the old DOS-version), and >they are also religious about it, but they admit, that this game is ugly, >and oldfashioned, but they love it anyway. I still play Kick Off 2 on my amiga emulator.. simply because it's fun to play. Listen, I can imagine that a clean install of GPL looks very outdated now, and combined with ff and sound problems AND the fact that it takes quite some dedication to get the hang of GPL the overall experience is not 'very funny' to you. But the way you look at GPL-fans is ridiculous, stating we play GPL just to make an impression on other people. If you are willing to put the time in it, you will discover that GPL is the best sim yet, unless you prefer Nascar more. If you quit that trolling crap I'm sure you'll get all the help you will need here. >I'm sorry I took your time. Don't be. Andre

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> As for tracks, I'm really picky. However, if you've just purchased > the game, I do not recommend getting addon tracks yet. Some will > argue with me, but for the first few weeks/months you'll have your > hands full just learning the 11 tracks that came with the game. Totally agree. However, there are several enhancements to the existing tracks which allow GPL to look much better now we have faster computers that can use the enhanced graphics over the original. I am sure it is linked from some of the other sites you have been given but here are some anyway: http://www.racesimcentral.com/darkgreen.htm http://www.bengpl.racesim.net/alskies.html Yes it can take some fiddling to enhance the sim, but that seems par for the course these days, the sim community is so strong & capable that F1-2001 is full of add-ons and that has only recently been released. It is amazing just what is being done for all sims. Cheers Tony

Yes, the original Ferrari sound is awesome, if inaccurate. I've tried have a dozen Ferrari sounds, but the original is the one I keep coming back to. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten System Specs: http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/m/v/mvwooten/system.txt ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0gf26$u7k$[email hidden]... > Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Disclaimer: *Caution!*, this reply may contain sarcasm. > > > has a terrible sound, > > > > Hmmm... a matter of taste perhaps and a soundpack does wonders. I can't > even > > remember what the originals sounded like. > > > Jan if you can't remember the awesome original Ferrari sound... SHAME on you > ! > That is still the sweetest sounding ride in any game ever. > > Mikkel > >

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 06:47:16 -0600, "Morgan V. Wooten" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yes, the original Ferrari sound is awesome, if inaccurate. I've tried have a >dozen Ferrari sounds, but the original is the one I keep coming back to. I use Sam Dobies Ferrari sound, it's better than the original imho, more raw power sounding. I don't have an url but I can mail it to you if you want.. Andre

"Mikkel Gram-Hansen" wrote... > <snip> > Jan if you can't remember the awesome original Ferrari sound... > SHAME on you ! > That is still the sweetest sounding ride in any game ever. Well, call me a heretic, but I replaced it. IIRC I found it to be a little "flat" compared to the meatier, more animal-like Ferrari sample I'm using now (don't remember who made it). It's pretty similar, but is throatier and has a rawer exhaust note. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:[email hidden]... <Snip!> > Well, call me a heretic, but I replaced it. IIRC I found it to be alittle > "flat" compared to the meatier, more animal-like Ferrari sample I'musing > now (don't remember who made it). >Meaty? Animal? Ah, I know the sound: "Moooooooooooooo....!" or is it: "Oink...Oink....Oink...!"

<Snip!> Meaty? Animal? Ah, I know the sound: "Moooooooooooooo....!" or is it: "Oink...Oink....Oink...!"

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> Totally agree. However, there are several enhancements to the existing > tracks which allow GPL to look much better now we have faster computers > that can use the enhanced graphics over the original. > > I am sure it is linked from some of the other sites you have been given > but here are some anyway: > > http://www.racesimcentral.com/darkgreen.htm > http://www.bengpl.racesim.net/alskies.html

Wow thanks. I've been looking for hi-res textures for the original tracks, and so far what I've downloaded fromt those sites are nice. Now I just need to find hi-res textures/popup fixes for the Nascar Legends and Nascar 1999 conversions. Any suggestions? Thinking about replacing my copy of Nascar 3 also if I can find a hi-res/popup fix for IMS, preferably with completely revamped graphics to reflect 1967. Jason

Hi Sven, You are forgiven if you promise to spend some more brain on your trollings next time <g> About GPL: Since you canot run the full show, you miss alot. I admit that the standard GPL-edition (V1.0, no FF, no addon cars, tracks, gimicks) must look very lousy nowadays. Hell, the sim is already 3 years old.... You should get your rig running first (I'm having a similar setup BTW and tons of probs too): Get the latest 4in1 (for a via chipset) and the 23.11 drivers for the GF3 Switch on AGP x 4, switch off any FSAA Try to get the soundcard on an extra IRQ, this should solve a lotta stutter and cracklings. get GPL 1.2, 3D-wheels and the GPLEA carsets. Don't download addon tracks now, you get lost. At 1024 x 768 the sim blows your mind, even nowadays. Cya Jens BTW: XP 1600+, GF2 GTS 64 DDR, SB something 128, 256 MB, always a sixpack in reach here On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:35:17 +0100, "Sven" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ok, I was a troll yesterday night (local time was 2 AM) influenced by a lot >of Christmas beer and annoyed by this game (GPL) because of soundproblems<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95