Hello All RAS'ers,
Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably
hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for
months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems
fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated!
Tia.. Thom_j.
P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
Wheel I have..
Guess who's going to try and help you?
Me. You're best friend.
What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper
installed? If you do, uninstall it.
You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure you get
everything.
I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I
installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers so I had to
do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was great, but
I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as me, but
then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was fine. I
did the same and also have no problems now.
The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current drivers, and
then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to the
2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to the
2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can always
just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't have
split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff.
Drivers are here. http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php
David G Fisher
"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hello All RAS'ers, > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > Tia.. Thom_j. > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > Wheel I have.. > >Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet drivers. Go
here http://uk.guillemot.com/corp/liens/indexlien.html and then hit the
drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot".
DGF
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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but
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> Guess who's going to try and help you? > > Me. You're best friend. > > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper > installed? If you do, uninstall it. > > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure you get > everything. > > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers so I had to > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was great,Quoted text (37 lines)
> I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as me, but > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was fine. I > did the same and also have no problems now. > > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current drivers, and > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to the > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility. > > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to the > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can always > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't have > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff. > > Drivers are here. http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php > > David G Fisher > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... > > Hello All RAS'ers, > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > > Tia.. Thom_j. > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > > Wheel I have.. > > > > > >I think it may actually be a "Christmas miracle".
It ran, but only in 640 x 480. The graphics also did some strange skipping
on occasion.
David G Fisher
"Ben Coleman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:oxPW7.334174$[email hidden]... > > Guess who's going to try and help you? > > > > Me. You're best friend. > > > > This is why they call it the silly season. People just start doing crazy > things for no good reason. Did you get GPL running in the end? > > Ben > >First thank you for the info David G Fisher :)
Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add
a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everything out but
maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to run to use
the cleanW.exe to do the un-install.
Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but this time
I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine after that
but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001 right
out of box!
Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff
Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never
seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every sim still
on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I
have plenty of room.
One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in
Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in
Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when my actual
Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone &
the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear?
Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to
Center' in the Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties
& all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh?
So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with
the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use
to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible!
I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties
applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback
enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my
wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still
is really squirrel'ie tho'...
Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6
drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly!
I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain
as much as I could..
Regards Thom_j.
P.S. Specs: CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive,
RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control
TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE
P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment
on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports.
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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get
| > everything.
| >
| > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I
| > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers so I hadto
| > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was great,
| but
| > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as me,but
| > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was fine.I
| > did the same and also have no problems now.
| >
| > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current drivers,and
| > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to the
| > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
| >
| > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to the
| > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you canalways
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| Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet drivers. Go | here http://uk.guillemot.com/corp/liens/indexlien.html and then hit the | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot". | | DGF | | "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:oxPW7.334174$[email hidden]... | > Guess who's going to try and help you? | > | > Me. You're best friend. | > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper | > installed? If you do, uninstall it. | > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure youQuoted text (29 lines)
| > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't have | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff. | > | > Drivers are here. http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php | > | > David G Fisher | > | > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > > Hello All RAS'ers, | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! | > > Tia.. Thom_j. | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > > Wheel I have.. | > > | > > | > | > | |Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" type of
question: did you get the "development update" from
http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going to
get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issues as
well.
"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hello All RAS'ers, > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > Tia.. Thom_j. > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > Wheel I have.. > >Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline
& not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept!
So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should
look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j.
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" type of | question: did you get the "development update" from | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going to | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issues as | well. | | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > Hello All RAS'ers, | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! | > Tia.. Thom_j. | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > Wheel I have.. | > | > |Ah, sh*t. I thought you already had the patch installed. :-)
You probably would have had to go through everything I mentioned in my other
post anyway.
David G Fisher
"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept! > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j. > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nlSW7.27222$[email hidden]... > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" type of > | question: did you get the "development update" from > | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going to > | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issues as > | well. > | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... > | > Hello All RAS'ers, > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > | > Tia.. Thom_j. > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > | > Wheel I have.. > | > > | > > | > >Ok David thank you for your info as I'm so far out of touch
with all this that I need all the help that You'All are willing to
offer!! Visions of, Dmi7, Ab7b5, G7, Ab7b5, G7, Eb7, are
still dancng in my cabaza` :) Thom_j.
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Ah, sh*t. I thought you already had the patch installed. :-)
|
| You probably would have had to go through everything I mentioned in myother
of
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| post anyway. | | David G Fisher | | | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:FHSW7.334934$[email hidden]... | > Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline | > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept! | > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should | > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:nlSW7.27222$[email hidden]... | > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" typeQuoted text (29 lines)
| > | question: did you get the "development update" from | > | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going to | > | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issues as | > | well. | > | | > | | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > | > Hello All RAS'ers, | > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably | > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for | > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} | > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems | > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] | > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no | > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months | > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone | > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! | > | > Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > | > Wheel I have.. | > | > | > | > | > | | > | > | |So you have both the 2.1.6 drivers and the EA patch (it's the patch I
referred to in my first post and contains the ff and driver updates) now
installed?
If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to have split
axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering is too
sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed
sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivity set to
80%.
For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and +100.
If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the 2.1.6,
then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which will give you
split axis ability.
David G Fisher
"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> First thank you for the info David G Fisher :)
> Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add
> a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everything outbut
had
> to
> | > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then wasgreat,
> | but
> | > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as me,
> but
> | > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything wasfine.
> I
> | > did the same and also have no problems now.
> | >
> | > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current drivers,
> and
> | > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade tothe
> | > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
> | >
> | > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading tothe
> | > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can
> always
> | > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won'thave
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> maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to run to use > the cleanW.exe to do the un-install. > Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but this time > I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine after that > but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001 right > out of box! > Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff > Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never > seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every sim still > on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I > have plenty of room. > One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in > Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in > Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when my actual > Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone & > the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear? > Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to > Center' in the Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties > & all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh? > So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with > the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use > to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible! > I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties > applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback > enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my > wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still > is really squirrel'ie tho'... > Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6 > drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly! > I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain > as much as I could.. > Regards Thom_j. > P.S. Specs: CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive, > RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control > TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE > P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment > on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports. > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SFPW7.334180$[email hidden]... > | Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet drivers. Go > | here http://uk.guillemot.com/corp/liens/indexlien.html and then hit the > | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot". > | > | DGF > | > | "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:oxPW7.334174$[email hidden]... > | > Guess who's going to try and help you? > | > > | > Me. You're best friend. > | > > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper > | > installed? If you do, uninstall it. > | > > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure you > get > | > everything. > | > > | > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I > | > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers so IQuoted text (30 lines)
> | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff. > | > > | > Drivers are here. http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php > | > > | > David G Fisher > | > > | > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... > | > > Hello All RAS'ers, > | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > | > > Tia.. Thom_j. > | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > | > > Wheel I have.. > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > >"Oooo" Ok! See, as stated I'm so out of touch I didnt know any
of this! So I *can* go back to my 2.3.6 right? Also refer to how
weird my X-Axis is in the 2.3.6. applet window in control panel!
It never hurt any of my other Sims but I thought I better put it in
so you would know what I see when I am setting it up..
Again I just got F1 2001 today! Btw: what are the hotlaps times
for Hock? Just curious.. Tia.. Thom_j.
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| 80%.
|
| For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and +100.
|
| If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the 2.1.6,
| then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which will giveyou
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| So you have both the 2.1.6 drivers and the EA patch (it's the patch I | referred to in my first post and contains the ff and driver updates) now | installed? | | If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to have split | axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering is too | sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed | sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivity setQuoted text (12 lines)
| split axis ability. | | David G Fisher | | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:OkSW7.334923$[email hidden]... | > First thank you for the info David G Fisher :) | > Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add | > a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everything out | but | > maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to run toQuoted text (40 lines)
| > the cleanW.exe to do the un-install. | > Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but this time | > I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine after that | > but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001 right | > out of box! | > Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff | > Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never | > seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every sim still | > on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I | > have plenty of room. | > One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in | > Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in | > Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when my actual | > Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone & | > the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear? | > Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to | > Center' in the Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties | > & all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh? | > So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with | > the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use | > to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible! | > I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties | > applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback | > enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my | > wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still | > is really squirrel'ie tho'... | > Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6 | > drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly! | > I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain | > as much as I could.. | > Regards Thom_j. | > P.S. Specs: CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive, | > RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control | > TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE | > P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment | > on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports. | > | > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:SFPW7.334180$[email hidden]... | > | Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet drivers.Quoted text (14 lines)
| > | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot". | > | | > | DGF | > | | > | "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:oxPW7.334174$[email hidden]... | > | > Guess who's going to try and help you? | > | > | > | > Me. You're best friend. | > | > | > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper | > | > installed? If you do, uninstall it. | > | > | > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sureQuoted text (12 lines)
| | > get | > | > everything. | > | > | > | > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I | > | > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers so I | had | > to | > | > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was | great, | > | but | > | > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing asQuoted text (7 lines)
| > but | > | > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was | fine. | > I | > | > did the same and also have no problems now. | > | > | > | > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your currentQuoted text (43 lines)
| > and | > | > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to | the | > | > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility. | > | > | > | > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to | the | > | > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can | > always | > | > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't | have | > | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff. | > | > | > | > Drivers are here. http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php | > | > | > | > David G Fisher | > | > | > | > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | > news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > | > > Hello All RAS'ers, | > | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably | > | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for | > | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} | > | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems | > | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] | > | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no | > | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months | > | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone | > | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! | > | > > Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > | > > Wheel I have.. | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |Yes, as long as the ff is ok with the 2.1.6 drivers then you just upgrade
using the 2.3.6 drivers here.
http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php
Just make sure you don't install Thrustmapper (I don't think it's included
with this download).
I don't have any clue as to what causes the wheel to appear off center in
control panel. Maybe it won't be that way after a new install of the 2.3.6
drivers.
Get Ian Bell's post patch setups including Hockenheim (all of them are
excellent) here http://www.simbin.com/f12001setups.htm
I think 1:37 is a fast time.
Da
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> | sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed
> | sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivityset
> to
> | 80%.
> |
> | For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and+100.
> |
> | If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the2.1.6,
out
right
> | > out of box!
> | > Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff
> | > Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never
> | > seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every simstill
drivers.
Thrustmapper
I
> | > | > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers soI
to
> | the
> | > | > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
> | > | >
> | > | > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgradingto
http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php
seems
> | > | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
> | > | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
> | > | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
> | > | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
> | > | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it'sappreciated!
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> "Oooo" Ok! See, as stated I'm so out of touch I didnt know any > of this! So I *can* go back to my 2.3.6 right? Also refer to how > weird my X-Axis is in the 2.3.6. applet window in control panel! > It never hurt any of my other Sims but I thought I better put it in > so you would know what I see when I am setting it up.. > Again I just got F1 2001 today! Btw: what are the hotlaps times > for Hock? Just curious.. Tia.. Thom_j. > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:g%SW7.334943$[email hidden]... > | So you have both the 2.1.6 drivers and the EA patch (it's the patch I > | referred to in my first post and contains the ff and driver updates) now > | installed? > | > | If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to have split > | axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering isQuoted text (12 lines)
> | then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which will give > you > | split axis ability. > | > | David G Fisher > | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:OkSW7.334923$[email hidden]... > | > First thank you for the info David G Fisher :) > | > Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add > | > a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everythingQuoted text (7 lines)
> | but > | > maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to run to > use > | > the cleanW.exe to do the un-install. > | > Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but this time > | > I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine after that > | > but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001Quoted text (32 lines)
> | > on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I > | > have plenty of room. > | > One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in > | > Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in > | > Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when my actual > | > Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone & > | > the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear? > | > Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to > | > Center' in the Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties > | > & all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh? > | > So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with > | > the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use > | > to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible! > | > I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties > | > applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback > | > enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my > | > wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still > | > is really squirrel'ie tho'... > | > Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6 > | > drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly! > | > I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain > | > as much as I could.. > | > Regards Thom_j. > | > P.S. Specs: CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive, > | > RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control > | > TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE > | > P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment > | > on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports. > | > > | > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:SFPW7.334180$[email hidden]... > | > | Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the ProphetQuoted text (14 lines)
> Go > | > | here http://uk.guillemot.com/corp/liens/indexlien.html and then hit > the > | > | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot". > | > | > | > | DGF > | > | > | > | "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > | news:oxPW7.334174$[email hidden]... > | > | > Guess who's going to try and help you? > | > | > > | > | > Me. You're best friend. > | > | > > | > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you haveQuoted text (9 lines)
> | > | > installed? If you do, uninstall it. > | > | > > | > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure > you > | > | > get > | > | > everything. > | > | > > | > | > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 untilQuoted text (17 lines)
> | had > | > to > | > | > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was > | great, > | > | but > | > | > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as > me, > | > but > | > | > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was > | fine. > | > I > | > | > did the same and also have no problems now. > | > | > > | > | > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current > drivers, > | > and > | > | > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgradeQuoted text (8 lines)
> | the > | > | > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can > | > always > | > | > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't > | have > | > | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff. > | > | > > | > | > Drivers are here.Quoted text (10 lines)
> | > | > > | > | > David G Fisher > | > | > > | > | > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > | > news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... > | > | > > Hello All RAS'ers, > | > | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > | > | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > | > | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > | > | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everythingQuoted text (16 lines)
> | > | > > Tia.. Thom_j. > | > | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > | > | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > | > | > > Wheel I have.. > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > | > >Then I am crawling like a snail right now!! haha
I can only get 1:45.197 Ouch! :)
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now
| > | installed?
| > |
| > | If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to havesplit
give
to
| > use
| > | > the cleanW.exe to do the un-install.
| > | > Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but thistime
| > | > I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine afterthat
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| > you
| > |
| > | > get
| > | > | > everything.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001until
| I
| > | > | > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 driversso
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| > me,
| > | > but
| > | > | > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everythingwas
upgrade
| to
| > | the
| > | > | > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and thenupgrading
| to
| > | the
| > | > | > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, youcan
| > | > always
| > | > | > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. Youwon't
probably
| > | > | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been onlinefor
| > | > | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > | > | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything
| seems
| > | > | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > | > | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I haveno
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| Yes, as long as the ff is ok with the 2.1.6 drivers then you just upgrade | using the 2.3.6 drivers here. | http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php | | Just make sure you don't install Thrustmapper (I don't think it's included | with this download). | | I don't have any clue as to what causes the wheel to appear off center in | control panel. Maybe it won't be that way after a new install of the 2.3.6 | drivers. | | Get Ian Bell's post patch setups including Hockenheim (all of them are | excellent) here http://www.simbin.com/f12001setups.htm | | I think 1:37 is a fast time. | | Da | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:h6TW7.334944$[email hidden]... | > "Oooo" Ok! See, as stated I'm so out of touch I didnt know any | > of this! So I *can* go back to my 2.3.6 right? Also refer to how | > weird my X-Axis is in the 2.3.6. applet window in control panel! | > It never hurt any of my other Sims but I thought I better put it in | > so you would know what I see when I am setting it up.. | > Again I just got F1 2001 today! Btw: what are the hotlaps times | > for Hock? Just curious.. Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:g%SW7.334943$[email hidden]... | > | So you have both the 2.1.6 drivers and the EA patch (it's the patch I | > | referred to in my first post and contains the ff and driver updates)Quoted text (14 lines)
| > | axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering is | too | > | sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed | > | sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivity | set | > to | > | 80%. | > | | > | For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and | +100. | > | | > | If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the | 2.1.6, | > | then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which willQuoted text (14 lines)
| > you | > | split axis ability. | > | | > | David G Fisher | > | | > | | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:OkSW7.334923$[email hidden]... | > | > First thank you for the info David G Fisher :) | > | > Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add | > | > a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everything | out | > | but | > | > maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to runQuoted text (12 lines)
| > | > but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001 | right | > | > out of box! | > | > Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff | > | > Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never | > | > seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every sim | still | > | > on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I | > | > have plenty of room. | > | > One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in | > | > Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in | > | > Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when myQuoted text (30 lines)
| > | > Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone & | > | > the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear? | > | > Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to | > | > Center' in the Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties | > | > & all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh? | > | > So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with | > | > the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use | > | > to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible! | > | > I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties | > | > applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback | > | > enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my | > | > wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still | > | > is really squirrel'ie tho'... | > | > Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6 | > | > drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly! | > | > I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain | > | > as much as I could.. | > | > Regards Thom_j. | > | > P.S. Specs: CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive, | > | > RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control | > | > TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE | > | > P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment | > | > on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports. | > | > | > | > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | > news:SFPW7.334180$[email hidden]... | > | > | Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet | drivers. | > Go | > | > | here http://uk.guillemot.com/corp/liens/indexlien.html and thenQuoted text (16 lines)
| > the | > | > | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot". | > | > | | > | > | DGF | > | > | | > | > | "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | > | news:oxPW7.334174$[email hidden]... | > | > | > Guess who's going to try and help you? | > | > | > | > | > | > Me. You're best friend. | > | > | > | > | > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have | Thrustmapper | > | > | > installed? If you do, uninstall it. | > | > | > | > | > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. MakeQuoted text (7 lines)
| I | > | had | > | > to | > | > | > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was | > | great, | > | > | but | > | > | > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thingQuoted text (8 lines)
| > | fine. | > | > I | > | > | > did the same and also have no problems now. | > | > | > | > | > | > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current | > drivers, | > | > and | > | > | > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and thenQuoted text (12 lines)
| > | have | > | > | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff. | > | > | > | > | > | > Drivers are here. | http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php | > | > | > | > | > | > David G Fisher | > | > | > | > | > | > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | > | > news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > | > | > > Hello All RAS'ers, | > | > | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all haveQuoted text (22 lines)
| > | > | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months | > | > | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone | > | > | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's | appreciated! | > | > | > > Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > | > | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > | > | > > Wheel I have.. | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |Yes you definitely need the patch. It is also a good idea to delete
your old player and create a new one after patching, to make sure all
the settings are correct. You will then find a force feedback icon in
the controllers menu somewhere - I think it looks like a vibrating
joystick IIRC. Click on that to go into the FF settings. I think DGF
already gave you some recommended settings to start with. Also, and
this is largely a subjective thing, I prefer to set Speed Sensitivity
(in the main controller menu) to 10%, and X Axis Sensitivity (in the
advanced controller menu, which I think is a joystick icon with the
number 1 next to it) to about 20%. This seems to me to be the best
compromise between controllability and linearity. YMMV. Good luck,
Thom!
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> | question: did you get the "development update" from
> | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't goingto
> | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issuesas
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> Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept! > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j. > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nlSW7.27222$[email hidden]... > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in"Quoted text (24 lines)
> | well. > | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... > | > Hello All RAS'ers, > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > | > Tia.. Thom_j. > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > | > Wheel I have.. > | > > | > > | > >Thanx A Heap On More Input Haqsau..
I did update the patch but still no FF. Now in going back to the 2.1.6.
drivers for the Ferrari wheel. I guess it is 2.1.6.? as after I took all out
of the 'control panel\gaming options' Then went to run to cleanW.exe
& rebooted so my Win98SE "Window Wizard" {should be Window
DumAzz} would try to locate the new hardware ( I use browse to set
it up as needs the chkdsk.exe, if it doesnt then I go to the source and
use setup, & it works here too.) but when I go to systems\properties
\device manager\sound video * game controllers\Thrustmaster force
feedback racing wheel [usb]\drivers tab-, To look at the drivers date
doesnt match {as its 5-10-2000} the 2.1.6 dates & then I go into the
Drivers Files Details: & it says Provider: Microsoft Corp & then the
'File Version: 4.08.00.0400' this doesnt have anything to do with the
TM drivers does it? Where do I find the version I am using now?
Also I see your Xaxis settings are a tad different then DGF's, Since
I am the type that uses a low wheel lock in GPL like usually 10:1 or
even sometimes down to 8:1 and 12:1 in Nascar 4, how can I get a
smooth setting for driving on the track but a nice tight lock like the
other sims I use low locks since F1 2001 does not use Steer Lock
or does it?
Finally I didn't take my driver name out either! Do you think since
I really just started yesterday I should start all over again from the
beginning? but I did see something about "to do or not to do" on
uninstalling when you have the patch installed already but I forget
where? I want to set F1 2001' in a proper manner but I dont want
to make un'needed extra work for myself at this point!
Any Ideas, Suggestions, Comments, etc..?
All help is appreciated!! Tia.. Cordially Thom_j.
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Yes you definitely need the patch. It is also a good idea to delete | your old player and create a new one after patching, to make sure all | the settings are correct. You will then find a force feedback icon in | the controllers menu somewhere - I think it looks like a vibrating | joystick IIRC. Click on that to go into the FF settings. I think DGF | already gave you some recommended settings to start with. Also, and | this is largely a subjective thing, I prefer to set Speed Sensitivity | (in the main controller menu) to 10%, and X Axis Sensitivity (in the | advanced controller menu, which I think is a joystick icon with the | number 1 next to it) to about 20%. This seems to me to be the best | compromise between controllability and linearity. YMMV. Good luck, | Thom! | | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:FHSW7.334934$[email hidden]... | > Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline | > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept! | > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should | > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:nlSW7.27222$[email hidden]... | > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" | type of | > | question: did you get the "development update" from | > | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going | to | > | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issues | as | > | well. | > | | > | | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > | > Hello All RAS'ers, | > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably | > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for | > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} | > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems | > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] | > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no | > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months | > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone | > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! | > | > Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > | > Wheel I have.. | > | > | > | > | > | | > | > |Thom
If you are seeing MS as the provider, then you don't have the correct TM
drivers installed.
you should see Immersion Corporation, 23/07/01, and 2.3.6.0 if you're using
the 2.3.6 drivers.
Good luck.
Iain
"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:hX3X7.336013$[email hidden]...
> Thanx A Heap On More Input Haqsau..
> I did update the patch but still no FF. Now in going back to the 2.1.6.
> drivers for the Ferrari wheel. I guess it is 2.1.6.? as after I took allout
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> of the 'control panel\gaming options' Then went to run to cleanW.exe > & rebooted so my Win98SE "Window Wizard" {should be Window > DumAzz} would try to locate the new hardware ( I use browse to set > it up as needs the chkdsk.exe, if it doesnt then I go to the source and > use setup, & it works here too.) but when I go to systems\properties > \device manager\sound video * game controllers\Thrustmaster force > feedback racing wheel [usb]\drivers tab-, To look at the drivers date > doesnt match {as its 5-10-2000} the 2.1.6 dates & then I go into the > Drivers Files Details: & it says Provider: Microsoft Corp & then the > 'File Version: 4.08.00.0400' this doesnt have anything to do with the > TM drivers does it? Where do I find the version I am using now? > Also I see your Xaxis settings are a tad different then DGF's, Since > I am the type that uses a low wheel lock in GPL like usually 10:1 or > even sometimes down to 8:1 and 12:1 in Nascar 4, how can I get a > smooth setting for driving on the track but a nice tight lock like the > other sims I use low locks since F1 2001 does not use Steer Lock > or does it? > Finally I didn't take my driver name out either! Do you think since > I really just started yesterday I should start all over again from the > beginning? but I did see something about "to do or not to do" on > uninstalling when you have the patch installed already but I forget > where? I want to set F1 2001' in a proper manner but I dont want > to make un'needed extra work for myself at this point! > Any Ideas, Suggestions, Comments, etc..? > All help is appreciated!! Tia.. Cordially Thom_j. > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kM2X7.29904$[email hidden]... > | Yes you definitely need the patch. It is also a good idea to delete > | your old player and create a new one after patching, to make sure all > | the settings are correct. You will then find a force feedback icon in > | the controllers menu somewhere - I think it looks like a vibrating > | joystick IIRC. Click on that to go into the FF settings. I think DGF > | already gave you some recommended settings to start with. Also, and > | this is largely a subjective thing, I prefer to set Speed Sensitivity > | (in the main controller menu) to 10%, and X Axis Sensitivity (in the > | advanced controller menu, which I think is a joystick icon with the > | number 1 next to it) to about 20%. This seems to me to be the best > | compromise between controllability and linearity. YMMV. Good luck, > | Thom! > | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:FHSW7.334934$[email hidden]... > | > Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline > | > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept! > | > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should > | > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j. > | > > | > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:nlSW7.27222$[email hidden]... > | > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" > | type of > | > | question: did you get the "development update" from > | > | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going > | to > | > | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driver issues > | as > | > | well. > | > | > | > | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... > | > | > Hello All RAS'ers, > | > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably > | > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for > | > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} > | > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems > | > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A] > | > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no > | > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months > | > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone > | > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated! > | > | > Tia.. Thom_j. > | > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) > | > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race > | > | > Wheel I have.. > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > > | > >"O" ok Iain, I use the Immersion software but I have no idea how in
the *H* the Microsoft got into my Systems Manager's Controller? I
do see all the "applications" when I go in my Control Panel\Gaming
Options and then Properties tho'.... Odd? If you ever need anything
screwed up just let me do it! phew...lol :)
"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Ym5X7.51434$[email hidden]...
| Thom
| If you are seeing MS as the provider, then you don't have the correct TM
| drivers installed.
| you should see Immersion Corporation, 23/07/01, and 2.3.6.0 if you'reusing
issues
seems
| > | > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > | > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
| > | > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > | > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > | > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it'sappreciated!
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| the 2.3.6 drivers. | Good luck. | Iain | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:hX3X7.336013$[email hidden]... | > Thanx A Heap On More Input Haqsau.. | > I did update the patch but still no FF. Now in going back to the 2.1.6. | > drivers for the Ferrari wheel. I guess it is 2.1.6.? as after I took all | out | > of the 'control panel\gaming options' Then went to run to cleanW.exe | > & rebooted so my Win98SE "Window Wizard" {should be Window | > DumAzz} would try to locate the new hardware ( I use browse to set | > it up as needs the chkdsk.exe, if it doesnt then I go to the source and | > use setup, & it works here too.) but when I go to systems\properties | > \device manager\sound video * game controllers\Thrustmaster force | > feedback racing wheel [usb]\drivers tab-, To look at the drivers date | > doesnt match {as its 5-10-2000} the 2.1.6 dates & then I go into the | > Drivers Files Details: & it says Provider: Microsoft Corp & then the | > 'File Version: 4.08.00.0400' this doesnt have anything to do with the | > TM drivers does it? Where do I find the version I am using now? | > Also I see your Xaxis settings are a tad different then DGF's, Since | > I am the type that uses a low wheel lock in GPL like usually 10:1 or | > even sometimes down to 8:1 and 12:1 in Nascar 4, how can I get a | > smooth setting for driving on the track but a nice tight lock like the | > other sims I use low locks since F1 2001 does not use Steer Lock | > or does it? | > Finally I didn't take my driver name out either! Do you think since | > I really just started yesterday I should start all over again from the | > beginning? but I did see something about "to do or not to do" on | > uninstalling when you have the patch installed already but I forget | > where? I want to set F1 2001' in a proper manner but I dont want | > to make un'needed extra work for myself at this point! | > Any Ideas, Suggestions, Comments, etc..? | > All help is appreciated!! Tia.. Cordially Thom_j. | > | > | > | > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:kM2X7.29904$[email hidden]... | > | Yes you definitely need the patch. It is also a good idea to delete | > | your old player and create a new one after patching, to make sure all | > | the settings are correct. You will then find a force feedback icon in | > | the controllers menu somewhere - I think it looks like a vibrating | > | joystick IIRC. Click on that to go into the FF settings. I think DGF | > | already gave you some recommended settings to start with. Also, and | > | this is largely a subjective thing, I prefer to set Speed Sensitivity | > | (in the main controller menu) to 10%, and X Axis Sensitivity (in the | > | advanced controller menu, which I think is a joystick icon with the | > | number 1 next to it) to about 20%. This seems to me to be the best | > | compromise between controllability and linearity. YMMV. Good luck, | > | Thom! | > | | > | | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:FHSW7.334934$[email hidden]... | > | > Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline | > | > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept! | > | > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should | > | > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > | > | > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | > news:nlSW7.27222$[email hidden]... | > | > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" | > | type of | > | > | question: did you get the "development update" from | > | > | http://www.easportsf1.com ? Because without that you aren't going | > | to | > | > | get any FF no matter what you do! Plus it fixes some driverQuoted text (11 lines)
| > | as | > | > | well. | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | > | news:eRNW7.333958$[email hidden]... | > | > | > Hello All RAS'ers, | > | > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably | > | > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for | > | > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang} | > | > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everythingQuoted text (14 lines)
| > | > | > Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :) | > | > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race | > | > | > Wheel I have.. | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | | > | > | |You'll know when your Ferrari FF drivers are really screwed when you
cannot save garage settings or replays during an N4 online session :(
If that happens do a fresh install and just stick with the 2.0.16
drivers that came in the box. They're nothing fancy and tool
programming software kills N4 and almost everything else, but at least
everything works. We'll almost everything, but that has to do with
NHL2002 that you probably don't have ;)
If you have the 2.0.16 drivers, re-install them and overwrite any files
it complains about.
Jason.
"Thom j." wrote:
>
> "O" ok Iain, I use the Immersion software but I have no idea how in
> the *H* the Microsoft got into my Systems Manager's Controller? I
> do see all the "applications" when I go in my Control Panel\Gaming
> Options and then Properties tho'.... Odd? If you ever need anything
> screwed up just let me do it! phew...lol :)[super duper snippage]
--
Jason Monds
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(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
Thom,
Can't help you with the TM stuff, but for the steering lock, you need
to look at three things. First there is a steering lock setting in
the vehicle setup menu, that sets the maximum steering angle of the
front wheels. Higher numbers here give you more responsive steering.
Anything less than 20 is going to be tough on tight courses like
Monaco. Next is your X Axis sensitivity in the advanced controller
menu. This controls how much turn of the wheel it takes to get to
full lock, at low speed. Higher numbers equal more responsive
steering. Lastly is the Speed Sensitivity setting in the controller
menu, which determines how much the sensitivity is reduced at higher
speeds. 100% gives the maximum reduction at high speeds, 0% results
in no reduction at high speeds. I have mine set up for moderately
fast steering at low speeds and minimal reduction at high speeds. If
you prefer really fast steering at low speeds but still want it stable
at high speeds then you need to use more speed sensitivity, like DGF
does, more X Axis sensitivity, and perhaps more lock. There is no
steering ratio variable like in Papy sims, the steering ratio is a
function of the three things I have listed.
Regards,
Haqsau
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server when they absorbed Mediaone!
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