NASCAR 2002 DEMO OUT!!!!

What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out John

Computer Gaming world also has a two page preview.(the upcomming issue with RPG's on the cover) My first impression from the article: They stated they dropped the Nascar 3, 4, 5 naming convention and changed to a yearly name..i.e. 2002. This accomplished two things...consumers can buy it and know the new cars are included...and the expectations of a HUGE Quantum leap from the old version to a new one can be deminished. I have NO problem with either concept, but retailing a yearly update for $50 seems waaay to pricey. Some of the other tidbits....working on the AI(check EVERY Papyrus title since Indy 500, you'll see that feature :> ) and increased graphic textures, driving school, racing line...the core seems to be fairly consistant with N4 but several extras outside the actual racing have been added. dave henrie "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rUvX7.29252$[email hidden]... > What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > > John > >

I got it from there before their server got bogged down, installing it now. "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rUvX7.29252$[email hidden]... > What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > > John > > >

I just pulled it off the 2nd listing at HC. 35KB/s for the whole file. Haven't tried to install it yet tho... dh "Floppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > > > >John > > > > > alt.binaries.simulators.autos

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > >John > alt.binaries.simulators.autos

And a patch wouldn't do the same thing because.... ? :) I know, I know, just a joke<G> -John Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aZvX7.18264$[email hidden]... > Computer Gaming world also has a two page preview.(the upcomming issue > with RPG's on the cover) > My first impression from the article: They stated they dropped theNascar > 3, 4, 5 naming convention and changed to a yearly name..i.e. 2002. This > accomplished two things...consumers can buy it and know the new cars are > included...and the expectations of a HUGE Quantum leap from the oldversion > to a new one can be deminished. I have NO problem with either concept,but

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> retailing a yearly update for $50 seems waaay to pricey. > Some of the other tidbits....working on the AI(check EVERY Papyrus title > since Indy 500, you'll see that feature :> ) and increased graphic > textures, driving school, racing line...the core seems to be fairly > consistant with N4 but several extras outside the actual racing have been > added. > dave henrie > > "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rUvX7.29252$[email hidden]... > > What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > > > > John > > > > > >

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:36:38 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: This will be the first Nx game which I definately won't be getting...

Any particular reason for saying this. At first glance, the Demo looks pretty nice. Those who expect 100 fps might as well forget it, though some will swear they get as much even though they don't. I'm running a P4 1.3 with a GeForce 3 ti200 and 256 RAM. I got 30 fps in the single race, at 1024x768x16 with all cars and all options on high, without filtering and lighting. The game ran pretty smoothly and looked nice. I figure that with a little tweaking I could get at least 40 fps. I'm more than happy with that. Alanb "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:36:38 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > This will be the first Nx game which I definately won't be getting...

Franklin, and other GeForce3 owners that are getting these low frame rates. Go into your graphics option in N2002 demo, see if the install defaulted antriscopic filtering on - if so, remove the check mark - you should see vast improvement in framerates - at least I did . My Athlon XP1600 with geForce3 Ti200 is now in the 70's., whereas before it was in the upper 20's. I was pretty frustrated with it until I stumbled across that. Don Burnette "Franklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7byX7.155$[email hidden]... > Any particular reason for saying this. At first glance, the Demo looks > pretty nice. Those who expect 100 fps might as well forget it, thoughsome

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> will swear they get as much even though they don't. > > I'm running a P4 1.3 with a GeForce 3 ti200 and 256 RAM. I got 30 fps in > the single race, at 1024x768x16 with all cars and all options on high, > without filtering and lighting. The game ran pretty smoothly and looked > nice. I figure that with a little tweaking I could get at least 40 fps. > I'm more than happy with that. > > Alanb > > "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:36:38 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > This will be the first Nx game which I definately won't be getting... > >

I had that turned off from the beginning. I do get 70 fps but that's during testing. Like I said earlier, I get around 30 fps with everything high and all cars, running 1024x768x16. I'm satisfied with that. You didn't mention what resolution you were running in and under what circumstances. Not saying that you are doing the same, but you get so much of "I'm running 1600x1200 all max settings and all cars and I'm getting 70 fps" stuff that it's no longer believable that someone is getting that kind of rate. Folks do tend to exaggerate. Why, I'm not sure, but they do nevertheless. Alanb "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lAyX7.6513$[email hidden]... > Franklin, and other GeForce3 owners that are getting these low framerates. > Go into your graphics option in N2002 demo, see if the install defaulted > antriscopic filtering on - if so, remove the check mark - you should see > vast improvement in framerates - at least I did . My Athlon XP1600 with > geForce3 Ti200 is now in the 70's., whereas before it was in the upper20's.

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> I was pretty frustrated with it until I stumbled across that. > > Don Burnette > > > "Franklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7byX7.155$[email hidden]... > > Any particular reason for saying this. At first glance, the Demo looks > > pretty nice. Those who expect 100 fps might as well forget it, though > some > > will swear they get as much even though they don't. > > > > I'm running a P4 1.3 with a GeForce 3 ti200 and 256 RAM. I got 30 fps

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> > the single race, at 1024x768x16 with all cars and all options on high, > > without filtering and lighting. The game ran pretty smoothly and looked > > nice. I figure that with a little tweaking I could get at least 40 fps. > > I'm more than happy with that. > > > > Alanb > > > > "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:36:38 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > This will be the first Nx game which I definately won't be getting... > > > > > >

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 06:08:03 GMT, "Franklin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Any particular reason for saying this. I just don't see it as value for the price. For full price, I expect a new game while this is, at most, just tweaking of the existing product. I might pay $15 or 20 for this, but no more.

I was running 1024x768x32 bit , world detail medium, draw ahead 50%, car detail medium, and all others on high when I posted the below. I have since changed to 1280x960x32, car detail to high, kept everything else the same, and am getting around 45-60 fps in a race with 19 drivers, starting at the rear of the pack. I can certainly live with that. My system: Athlon XP1600 ( 1.4ghz), GeForce3 ti200, 512 mb ddr ram. Don Burnette "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QTyX7.157$[email hidden]... > I had that turned off from the beginning. I do get 70 fps but that'sduring > testing. Like I said earlier, I get around 30 fps with everything highand > all cars, running 1024x768x16. I'm satisfied with that. > > You didn't mention what resolution you were running in and under what > circumstances. Not saying that you are doing the same, but you get somuch > of "I'm running 1600x1200 all max settings and all cars and I'm getting 70 > fps" stuff that it's no longer believable that someone is getting thatkind

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> of rate. Folks do tend to exaggerate. Why, I'm not sure, but they do > nevertheless. > > Alanb > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lAyX7.6513$[email hidden]... > > Franklin, and other GeForce3 owners that are getting these low frame > rates. > > Go into your graphics option in N2002 demo, see if the install defaulted > > antriscopic filtering on - if so, remove the check mark - you should see > > vast improvement in framerates - at least I did . My Athlon XP1600 with > > geForce3 Ti200 is now in the 70's., whereas before it was in the upper > 20's. > > I was pretty frustrated with it until I stumbled across that. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > "Franklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:7byX7.155$[email hidden]... > > > Any particular reason for saying this. At first glance, the Demo

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> > > pretty nice. Those who expect 100 fps might as well forget it, though > > some > > > will swear they get as much even though they don't. > > > > > > I'm running a P4 1.3 with a GeForce 3 ti200 and 256 RAM. I got 30 fps > in > > > the single race, at 1024x768x16 with all cars and all options on high, > > > without filtering and lighting. The game ran pretty smoothly and

looked > > > nice. I figure that with a little tweaking I could get at least 40fps.

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> > > I'm more than happy with that. > > > > > > Alanb > > > > > > "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:36:38 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > This will be the first Nx game which I definately won't be

getting... > > > > > > > > > > > >

Me too Don & I'm running my lowly Intel P3 1.ghz :) I like the graphics and the "faster loss of grip" if you go into the turns too hard at Atlanta! I tend to do this .. :) "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pBzX7.6539$[email hidden]...

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| I was running 1024x768x32 bit , world detail medium, draw ahead 50%, car | detail medium, and all others on high when I posted the below. | I have since changed to 1280x960x32, car detail to high, kept everything | else the same, and am getting around 45-60 fps in a race with 19 drivers, | starting at the rear of the pack. I can certainly live with that. | My system: Athlon XP1600 ( 1.4ghz), GeForce3 ti200, 512 mb ddr ram. | | Don Burnette | | | "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:QTyX7.157$[email hidden]... | > I had that turned off from the beginning. I do get 70 fps but that's | during | > testing. Like I said earlier, I get around 30 fps with everything high | and | > all cars, running 1024x768x16. I'm satisfied with that. | > | > You didn't mention what resolution you were running in and under what | > circumstances. Not saying that you are doing the same, but you get so | much | > of "I'm running 1600x1200 all max settings and all cars and I'm getting

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| > fps" stuff that it's no longer believable that someone is getting that | kind | > of rate. Folks do tend to exaggerate. Why, I'm not sure, but they do | > nevertheless. | > | > Alanb | > | > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:lAyX7.6513$[email hidden]... | > > Franklin, and other GeForce3 owners that are getting these low frame | > rates. | > > Go into your graphics option in N2002 demo, see if the install

defaulted | > > antriscopic filtering on - if so, remove the check mark - you shouldsee | > > vast improvement in framerates - at least I did . My Athlon XP1600with

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| > > geForce3 Ti200 is now in the 70's., whereas before it was in the upper | > 20's. | > > I was pretty frustrated with it until I stumbled across that. | > > | > > Don Burnette | > > | > > | > > "Franklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > > news:7byX7.155$[email hidden]... | > > > Any particular reason for saying this. At first glance, the Demo | looks | > > > pretty nice. Those who expect 100 fps might as well forget it,

though | > > some | > > > will swear they get as much even though they don't. | > > > | > > > I'm running a P4 1.3 with a GeForce 3 ti200 and 256 RAM. I got 30fps | > in | > > > the single race, at 1024x768x16 with all cars and all options onhigh,

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| > > > without filtering and lighting. The game ran pretty smoothly and | looked | > > > nice. I figure that with a little tweaking I could get at least 40 | fps. | > > > I'm more than happy with that. | > > > | > > > Alanb | > > > | > > > "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > > > news:[email hidden]... | > > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:36:38 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> | > > > > wrote: | > > > > | > > > > This will be the first Nx game which I definately won't be | getting... | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > | |

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > >John I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right now. Andre

In article <rUvX7.29252$[email hidden]>, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > >John > >http://www.zone15.com/NR2002_demo.exe http://www.pitwagon.racesim.net/pw2002/NR2002_demo.exe

started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> | wrote: | | >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out | > | >John | | I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right | now. | | Andre

Do you get the same fantastic downlad speeds I do with @home (soon to be comcast only)? You're nearby so I'm curious. I get up to 400 kbs. 300+ is normal. Of course it depends who I'm downloading from, but the ceiling is very high. David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_CKX7.339327$[email hidden]...

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> started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> > | wrote: > | > | >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > | > > | >John > | > | I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right > | now. > | > | Andre > >

YUP! :) Nearby? Howz bout' next door? :)~ Coming to your local theater soon folks the New & Improved @Comcast.net 4-Million Strong & Climbing! hahaha "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pWKX7.339394$[email hidden]...

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| Do you get the same fantastic downlad speeds I do with @home (soon to be | comcast only)? You're nearby so I'm curious. | | I get up to 400 kbs. 300+ is normal. Of course it depends who I'm | downloading from, but the ceiling is very high. | | David G Fisher | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:_CKX7.339327$[email hidden]... | > started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) | > | > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > | On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> | > | wrote: | > | | > | >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out | > | > | > | >John | > | | > | I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right | > | now. | > | | > | Andre | > | > | |

I've had cable for two years now, and the surprising thing is the download speeds haven't changed at all. David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b_LX7.339469$[email hidden]...

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> YUP! :) Nearby? Howz bout' next door? :)~ > Coming to your local theater soon folks the > New & Improved @Comcast.net 4-Million > Strong & Climbing! hahaha > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pWKX7.339394$[email hidden]... > | Do you get the same fantastic downlad speeds I do with @home (soon to be > | comcast only)? You're nearby so I'm curious. > | > | I get up to 400 kbs. 300+ is normal. Of course it depends who I'm > | downloading from, but the ceiling is very high. > | > | David G Fisher > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:_CKX7.339327$[email hidden]... > | > started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) > | > > | > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:[email hidden]... > | > | On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> > | > | wrote: > | > | > | > | >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed

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> | > | > > | > | >John > | > | > | > | I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right > | > | now. > | > | > | > | Andre > | > > | > > | > | > >

Yeah, I got it at around 130KB/Sec at 3am last night. Once I figured out WHICH word to click on! Don't these folks understand the color blue? :) -Larry "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > > > >John > > I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right > now. > > Andre

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:16:58 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: >started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) Basterd :) Andre

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> >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >| On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> >| wrote: >| >| >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out >| > >| >John >| >| I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right >| now. >| >| Andre > >

Is that K bit or K BYTE ? It's written as K bit, of which 265kbs isn't really super fast. I suspect they actually mean 265KB/Sec and 325KB/Sec. The difference between kb/Sec and KB/sec is substantial :) My download off cable modem was at 130KB/sec, which is 1040kb/sec (of course) :) If the planets are in proper alignment, and there are no sour routers on Cox's network (rare, indeed), I can see 180KB/Sec downloads which is about 1.5mbit/sec. -Larry "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:16:58 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) > > Basterd :) > > Andre > > > > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >| On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> > >| wrote: > >| > >| >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > >| > > >| >John > >| > >| I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right > >| now. > >| > >| Andre > > > > >

Yea...anytime you see Kb, multiple it by 8 to get what itis in KB (8 bits to a byte...) -Stuart Becktell "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uy%X7.12630$[email hidden]...

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> Is that K bit or K BYTE ? > > It's written as K bit, of which 265kbs isn't really super fast. > > I suspect they actually mean 265KB/Sec and 325KB/Sec. > > The difference between kb/Sec and KB/sec is substantial :) > > My download off cable modem was at 130KB/sec, which is 1040kb/sec (of > course) :) > > If the planets are in proper alignment, and there are no sour routers on > Cox's network (rare, indeed), I can see 180KB/Sec downloads which is about > 1.5mbit/sec. > > -Larry > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:16:58 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >started @ 265kbs & went up to 325kbs here Andre :) > > > > Basterd :) > > > > Andre > > > > > > > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > >| On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:31:35 GMT, "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> > > >| wrote: > > >| > > >| >What site other than hcmotorsports has it?. That server is maxed out > > >| > > > >| >John > > >| > > >| I guess the server works again, downloading with a nice 132kbs right > > >| now. > > >| > > >| Andre > > > > > > > > > >

Actually, that would be divide kb by 8 to get KB :) That's ok. The new math screws with me too :) -Larry "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:y30Y7.52782$[email hidden]... > Yea...anytime you see Kb, multiple it by 8 to get what itis in KB (8 bitsto

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> a byte...) > -Stuart Becktell > "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:uy%X7.12630$[email hidden]... > > Is that K bit or K BYTE ? > > > > It's written as K bit, of which 265kbs isn't really super fast. > > > > I suspect they actually mean 265KB/Sec and 325KB/Sec. > > > > The difference between kb/Sec and KB/sec is substantial :) > > > > My download off cable modem was at 130KB/sec, which is 1040kb/sec (of > > course) :) > > > > If the planets are in proper alignment, and there are no sour routers on > > Cox's network (rare, indeed), I can see 180KB/Sec downloads which is

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 06:08:03 GMT, "Franklin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Any particular reason for saying this. At first glance, the Demo looks >pretty nice. Those who expect 100 fps might as well forget it, though some >will swear they get as much even though they don't. > At this point, I'd be a bit wary about getting the latest incarnation of N 2002 / 5 (for us old timers). I'm still steamed about losing the shift-R function. I know that it's an old arguement, but not having a way to fix some dumb AI running over me in T1 after a brilliant qualifying run is inexcusable.

I guess you haven't checked out the demo, as session restarts are included. - Eric "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > At this point, I'd be a bit wary about getting the latest incarnation > of N 2002 / 5 (for us old timers). I'm still steamed about losing the > shift-R function. I know that it's an old arguement, but not having a > way to fix some dumb AI running over me in T1 after a brilliant > qualifying run is inexcusable.

Hi Eric!!! Been a long time since NASROC. No, I haven't. I lost high-speed capability when I moved outside of town... :( The guy getting hacked up next door didn't force me out. My car getting hit while parked didn't force me out. Not being able to get a parking spot within a block of my apartment did it... Guess I'm paying for it now... On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:48:25 -0500, "Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I guess you haven't checked out the demo, as session restarts are >included. > >- Eric > > >"Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> At this point, I'd be a bit wary about getting the latest incarnation >> of N 2002 / 5 (for us old timers). I'm still steamed about losing the >> shift-R function. I know that it's an old arguement, but not having a >> way to fix some dumb AI running over me in T1 after a brilliant >> qualifying run is inexcusable. >