See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super.
However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce.
Many thanks.
Does rFactor use Starforce copy protection?
A user asked whether rFactor came with Starforce. Replies explained that it did not, but was download-only with a hardware-tied key and limited activations; others said reinstalls did not require a new key unless the system was formatted, and that backing up the key folder avoided problems. Some still objected to activation limits.
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:18:32 -0500, Cowboy Bob
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super.
>
>However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce.
>
>Many thanks.
No, it doesn't come with Starforce. It comes with a three install
limitation before requiring a new key and is tied to your hardware
config. That's almost as bad as SF IMO.
Gringo wrote in news:[email hidden]:
This is a bit misleading. There are documented ways to re-install
rF without having to use a key. Only a format or a new disk would
require use of a key.
Check the rF forums at Race Sim Central for more details.
Bottom line, I wouldn't worry too much about the three-install
limit. And ISI has promised no hassles if you do need to ask for
more keys.
--
Darryl
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> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:18:32 -0500, Cowboy Bob > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super. >> >>However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce. >> >>Many thanks. > > No, it doesn't come with Starforce. It comes with a three > install limitation before requiring a new key and is tied to > your hardware config. That's almost as bad as SF IMO. >
"Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Lol, which is a hassle unto itself.
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> Gringo wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:18:32 -0500, Cowboy Bob > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super. > >> > >>However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce. > >> > >>Many thanks. > > > > No, it doesn't come with Starforce. It comes with a three > > install limitation before requiring a new key and is tied to > > your hardware config. That's almost as bad as SF IMO. > > > > This is a bit misleading. There are documented ways to re-install > rF without having to use a key. Only a format or a new disk would > require use of a key. > > Check the rF forums at Race Sim Central for more details. > > Bottom line, I wouldn't worry too much about the three-install > limit. And ISI has promised no hassles if you do need to ask for > more keys. > > -- > Darryl > "Bottom line, I wouldn't worry too much about the three-install > limit. And ISI has promised no hassles if you do need to ask for > more keys. "Cowboy Bob wrote:
> See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super.
>
> However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce.
It doesn't even come with a cd. As a matter of fact the only way to purchase
rFactor is as a download, through www.rfactor.net.
Regards, Hans
> It doesn't even come with a cd. As a matter of fact the only way to
> purchase rFactor is as a download, through www.rfactor.net.
Well, despite all the fear mongering, I haven't had any issues with
Starforce or rFactor's key system...
I'm curious though, what do other games like LFS use for copy protection?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:24:48 -0600, AugerIn wrote:
lol too, why would one ever want to re-install windows? ;->
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> >> "Bottom line, I wouldn't worry too much about the three-install >> limit. And ISI has promised no hassles if you do need to ask for >> more keys. " > > > Lol, which is a hassle unto itself.Steve, the biggest problem I run into with programs like StarForce is that
they'll block the usage of programs like Daemon Tools. I haven't run into
the problem with RFactor but I also just updated to the latest Daemon Tools
so they may have gotten around it.
"Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> It doesn't even come with a cd. As a matter of fact the only way to >> purchase rFactor is as a download, through www.rfactor.net. > > Well, despite all the fear mongering, I haven't had any issues with > Starforce or rFactor's key system... > > I'm curious though, what do other games like LFS use for copy protection? > >
"Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Which can be re-installed as many times as one wishes. And all without
having to ask anyone for anything <wink>
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> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:24:48 -0600, AugerIn wrote: > > > >> "Bottom line, I wouldn't worry too much about the three-install > >> limit. And ISI has promised no hassles if you do need to ask for > >> more keys. " > > > > > > Lol, which is a hassle unto itself. > > lol too, why would one ever want to re-install windows? ;-> > > > > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:52:14 GMT, Darryl Johnson
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>This is a bit misleading. There are documented ways to re-install
>rF without having to use a key. Only a format or a new disk would
>require use of a key.
Yea, and I format the HDD about every six months.
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Rosebud...
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:20:33 -0600, "AugerIn" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Which can be re-installed as many times as one wishes. And all without
>having to ask anyone for anything <wink>
>
I wouldn't compare an OS to a game. One is integral to using a
computer and the other is not.
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Rosebud...
All you have to do is back up the key folder in your profile and that takes
care of all that.
-Larry
"Gringo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:18:32 -0500, Cowboy Bob > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super. >> >>However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce. >> >>Many thanks. > > No, it doesn't come with Starforce. It comes with a three install > limitation before requiring a new key and is tied to your hardware > config. That's almost as bad as SF IMO. >
"Gringo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Not this shit again.
There is no problem with installing rFactor as many times as a person wants.
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> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:18:32 -0500, Cowboy Bob > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>See title. I would really like to buy this sim, it looks super. >> >>However, I'm a bit nervous when it comes to Starforce. >> >>Many thanks. > > No, it doesn't come with Starforce. It comes with a three install > limitation before requiring a new key and is tied to your hardware > config. That's almost as bad as SF IMO. >
"House of Brutus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:20:33 -0600, "AugerIn" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
> > Which can be re-installed as many times as one wishes. And allwithout
I wasn't.
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> >having to ask anyone for anything <wink> > > > > I wouldn't compare an OS to a game. One is integral to using a > computer and the other is not. > -- > Rosebud...House of Brutus <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:
>
> I wouldn't compare an OS to a game. One is integral to using a
> computer and the other is not.
> --
ahh but I would not USE the computer if I didn't have the game.
:)
dh
In article <AH_qf.1142$OU5.1021@clgrps13>,
Michael Horton says...
> Steve, the biggest problem I run into with programs like StarForce is that
> they'll block the usage of programs like Daemon Tools. I haven't run into
> the problem with RFactor but I also just updated to the latest Daemon Tools
> so they may have gotten around it.
I've never had an issue with Daemon tools and starforce. Have them both
installed on my system with no problems...?
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Cheers,
Rod.
> I've never had an issue with Daemon tools and starforce. Have them both
> installed on my system with no problems...?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Rod.
Me too, no problems encountered, even with the last >1 year old Daemon Tools
3.xx version - still haven't updated to the 4.x series. I don't understand
issues that people have with StarForce. There are some issues in
out-of-the-box games that have an old starforce version that causes
compatibility problems, but those were usually sorted out after updates to
the game itself or manual update of the starforce drivers.
Generally Starforce is a bad thing, though. It prevents a legimate customer
from taking a backup copy of the game he/she bought, and I doubt the
publishers will replace a worn-out cd/dvd :/
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Mika Takala
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:22:06 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>Not this shit again.
>
>There is no problem with installing rFactor as many times as a person wants.
Ah, it's the old "software industry apologist" stance. I expect you
think piracy is lost sales too.
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Rosebud...
"Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Problem is that game companies are more volatile than a lit stick of
dynamite. Here one minute, gone the next taking all their promises with
them. I update components and reformat my PC on a regular basis and refuse
to go with any software that limits it to only a few installs. I know they
mean well, but what happens to us when a few years down the road, the
company no longer exists or gets bought out by a less diligent company? You
may not even be able to buy another copy.
