NR2002 Frame rate

My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11 drivers and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. Thnaks, Chris

Check and see if antriscopic filtering is checked in your graphics settings in options. Configure it to use Tnl Hal if you have not. I had the same problem until I unchecked atriscopic filtering. Don Burnette "Chris Maness" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KDLX7.8709$[email hidden]... > My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11drivers > and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. > > Thnaks, > Chris > >

First, we must keep in mind that this is a DEMO. With that said... ABIT KG7/512MB/AthlonXP 1800+/TBSC/1280X960X16. All options except Anistropic Filtering turned on (Anistropic filtering absolutely kills the frame rate). Mine are ok in testing. Around 80fps. However, when I join a race at Atlanta with 19 cars, it drops like a rock. 20-30fps. And it sure doesn't seem to be due to AI, because there doesn't seem to BE any AI. These guys are kamakazi drivers. I have yet to pass more than 2 cars without one of them simply pulling me down and ramming me right off the track. Also, the contact physics are all screwed up. Just the _slightest_ tap send one or both cars spinning. Even barely touching an AI car in the rear on the straight sends them spinning off into the sunset. Rubbin' is Racin', but not in this demo :) I sure hope it isn't like that in the final. If it is, online racing is going to be a disaster. Setups from N4 are un-useable. My Atlanta setup for N4, which is really quite good (one of the few I've been able to do well), is crap in N5. The front end washes out horribly. I had to re-set everything from scratch. I will say this. You can _really_ feel the effets of the track-bar in N5. Enough that just 1/4 of a turn really means a lot, especially in getting the power down off-corner. One round too much, and you find yourself loosing the rear end. The physics seem to want to snap-spin on you if you lose the rear even the slightest bit. The Sound is very, very good. It took 5 versions and about 6 years to get it right, but by golly it actually sounds like a Race car now :) There is still a little bit of crackling, but I honestly think that's an NT (2K/XP) thing. We may never get rid of that totally in games. Is it just me, or do the sounds seem to be lacking ALL base components, though? I have the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's and they really rumble in N4. In N5, even with the base cranked up all the way (and this is one SERIOUS sub-woofer), there's nothing there. When you really get down to it, the Interface is exactly the same, only different. I haven't decided whether I like it or not. I'm also not sure I like the new guage layout or not. I still haven't figured out which one is the temp. You can't read the damned things, and because NO damage appears to be modeled, you can't overheat and set off the light. Anyone notice the flame out the exhaust, and even neater, the sparks that you get if you scrape the wall, neat! Stability has been NO problem for me at all. I think the Graphics are a bit better. Closer to NH quality. In fact, overall, the demo feels a little bit _more_ like NH. In summary: 1. Nicer graphics and effects. 2. Better Sound (especially tire scrub and squeal), but the bass component seems to be missing completely. 3. The AI is brain-dead. 4. I am VERY concerned about frame rates. 5. Stability is fantastic. 6. I can take or leave the new interface. 7. Not sure about the interior yet. Need full working guages and damage to evaluate their usefulness. The need to be more legible! 8. Damage model is an unknown at this point. All of the above are based on the DEMO, and are taken with a grain of salt. I will buy it. The Demo did it's job. -Larry "Chris Maness" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KDLX7.8709$[email hidden]... > My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11drivers > and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. > > Thnaks, > Chris > >

> Is it just me, or do the sounds seem to be lacking ALL base components, > though? I have the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's and they really rumble in N4.In > N5, even with the base cranked up all the way (and this is one SERIOUS > sub-woofer), there's nothing there. A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy.

"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8xNX7.17696$[email hidden]...

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> > > Is it just me, or do the sounds seem to be lacking ALL base components, > > though? I have the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's and they really rumble in N4. > In > > N5, even with the base cranked up all the way (and this is one SERIOUS > > sub-woofer), there's nothing there. > > A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of > Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. >

I'll take my Klipsch's anyday, they sound awesome to me. Don Burnette

Ditto Don. I couldn't want any more performance from my PC system. They even rival my home system for quality of sound. "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9HNX7.8967$[email hidden]... > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8xNX7.17696$[email hidden]... > > > > > Is it just me, or do the sounds seem to be lacking ALL basecomponents, > > > though? I have the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's and they really rumble inN4.

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> > In > > > N5, even with the base cranked up all the way (and this is one SERIOUS > > > sub-woofer), there's nothing there. > > > > A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of > > Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. > > > > I'll take my Klipsch's anyday, they sound awesome to me. > > Don Burnette > > >

"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8xNX7.17696$[email hidden]... > > A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of > Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. Can they drop bombs too? ;-) Bart Westra

I assure you, the Klipsh ProMedia 5.1's are quite sufficient for a computer :) -Larry "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8xNX7.17696$[email hidden]...

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> > > Is it just me, or do the sounds seem to be lacking ALL base components, > > though? I have the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's and they really rumble in N4. > In > > N5, even with the base cranked up all the way (and this is one SERIOUS > > sub-woofer), there's nothing there. > > A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of > Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. > >

Ditto... The new PowerDVD XP 4.0, with full DTS and Dolby 5.1 support, makes them even better. The beach landing in Saving Private Ryan is amazing on these speakers (assuming you have the appropriate sound card - The TBSC is great). -Larry "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ditto Don. I couldn't want any more performance from my PC system. They > even rival my home system for quality of sound. > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9HNX7.8967$[email hidden]... > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8xNX7.17696$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Is it just me, or do the sounds seem to be lacking ALL base > components, > > > > though? I have the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's and they really rumble in > N4. > > > In > > > > N5, even with the base cranked up all the way (and this is one

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> > > > sub-woofer), there's nothing there. > > > > > > A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of > > > Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. > > > > > > > I'll take my Klipsch's anyday, they sound awesome to me. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > >

How do you get the frame rate? Iain "Chris Maness" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KDLX7.8709$[email hidden]... > My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11drivers > and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. > > Thnaks, > Chris > >

Iain, It's [CTRL] F I think... if not that then it's [ALT] F. John Cauthen "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:X61Y7.22282$[email hidden]...

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> How do you get the frame rate? > Iain > > "Chris Maness" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KDLX7.8709$[email hidden]... > > My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11 > drivers > > and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. > > > > Thnaks, > > Chris > > > > > >

Should be just the F key for frame rate. -- Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0q9rs$9fiu$[email hidden]... > Iain, > > It's [CTRL] F I think... if not that then it's [ALT] F. > > John Cauthen > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:X61Y7.22282$[email hidden]... > > How do you get the frame rate? > > Iain > > > > "Chris Maness" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:KDLX7.8709$[email hidden]... > > > My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11 > > drivers > > > and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. > > > > > > Thnaks, > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > >

In article <i2MX7.10694$[email hidden]>, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: >I sure hope it isn't like that in the final. If it is, online racing is >going to be a disaster. It isn't NOW? :-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <9HNX7.8967$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> >> A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of >> Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. >> > >I'll take my Klipsch's anyday, they sound awesome to me. >

I've never heard EITHER. What made you get those, Don? I got a cheap Benwin system...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <9HNX7.8967$[email hidden]>, "DonBurnette"

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >> > >> A "serious" sub-woofer is an Audio Pro B2-50. Combined with a pair of > >> Tandberg amps. Anything else is just a frivolous toy. > >> > > > >I'll take my Klipsch's anyday, they sound awesome to me. > > > > I've never heard EITHER. What made you get those, Don? I got a cheap

Benwin > system...<g> > I had just read a lot about them, and I have not been dissappointed. Plus, I love good sound. They are awesome. Don Burnette

FWIW, the frame-rates on my AMD 1.3GHz, KyroII 64MB, 256MB DDR, SBLive match up (or might be faster) with what I'm seeing on N4 with the same settings. 30-80 fps with the average in a pack in 30-35fps at 1024x768x32. I did turn Antistropic filter off of course :) They seemed to improve on the sound and extra touches like flames out the mufflers, some physics tweeks(?), etc. Chris Maness wrote: > > My framerates are really bad (less than 20). I have GF3 with 23.11 drivers > and 1.4GHZ system. Any ideals on what I can do to increase them. > > Thnaks, > Chris -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)