GPL on a TNT2Ultra in Win ME

Hi, I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with 32mb. This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal Tournament etc etc I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to run quite poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly erodes and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade my PC ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common problem and you guys have all the answers............ Please help IJ

Chances are its video and/or sound card driver related. Thats a pretty slow system for what you want, I think since it was running fine under 98, I would have left well enough alone until an equipment upgrade was possible. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Ian Jarvis <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0ocih$gcu$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with 32mb. > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > Tournament etc etc > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to run quite > poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly erodes > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade my PC > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > Please help > > IJ > > > >

I would try changing back your video card drivers. I don't think that WinME is the problem here. I have had troubles with detonator drives as well. Hope this helps Daryll Ian Jarvis <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0ocih$gcu$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with32mb. > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > Tournament etc etc > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to runquite

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> poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly erodes > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade my PC > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > Please help > > IJ > > > >

........I've not done anything with the soundcard. Its a soundblaster awe64. I'll play with that because I've never even tryed new drivers. The reason I don't think its hardware related is because the problem fades away after a minute or so ( a bit like a car with damp ignition.....it may start on 3 cylinders but runs on all 4 when warmed up ........Hey thats' it , I'll spray some 'Dampstart' into the back of my PC ! ) I thought the real problem was either driver related , or Win ME putting more demands on my system . If the latter , I'd like to know what the minimum number of critical app's should be resident and working to play GPL , i.e when I view the task manager. IJ "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nKOX7.316464$[email hidden]... > Chances are its video and/or sound card driver related. Thats a prettyslow system for what you > want, I think since it was running fine under 98, I would have left wellenough alone until an

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> equipment upgrade was possible. > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > > Ian Jarvis <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:a0ocih$gcu$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with32mb. > > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > > Tournament etc etc > > > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to runquite > > poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowlyerodes > > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade myPC

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> > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > > > Please help > > > > IJ > > > > > > > > > >

Looking at other newsgroups and some game related, many are Hardware/software related... I have overwhelming evidence the ME is the biggest joke and problem since windows3. The biggest problem is many drivers that work in SE or pre SE don't run in ME. Many MFG's went belly up before ME drivers ever got up to running very good. Also with ME, the OS seems less likely to do what I want it to install on drivers vs. what "IT" thinks is best idea... Example updating video card drivers to the latest reference drivers from NVIDIA. OS always says "the existing drivers are a closer match .... ETC". If I were you, Id go back to SE... or maybe XP? "DJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1LVX7.8827$[email hidden]... > I would try changing back your video card drivers. I don't think thatWinME

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> is the problem here. I have had troubles with detonator drives as well. > Hope this helps Daryll > Ian Jarvis <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a0ocih$gcu$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with > 32mb. > > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > > Tournament etc etc > > > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to run > quite > > poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly

erodes > > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade myPC

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> > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > > > Please help > > > > IJ > > > > > > > > > >

Ian, The 23.xx Detonators are geared more for the GF3 than the GF2. I've had good luck w. nVidia's 7.52 drivers. Old doesn't neccessarily mean slow. --Steve Smith "Ian Jarvis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0ocih$gcu$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with32mb. > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > Tournament etc etc > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to runquite

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> poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly erodes > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade my PC > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > Please help > > IJ > > > >

I'm running GPL in WinME, 192 MEG, Voodoo3 2000. I sometimes get a few stuttered frames very early in a session and then goes away. 128 MEG might be marginal on RAM with ME, and it takes a while to reallocate memory for GPL. You can never be too rich or have too much memory. Good luck. Jim Ian Jarvis wrote:

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> ........I've not done anything with the soundcard. Its a soundblaster awe64. > I'll play with that because I've never even tryed new drivers. > > The reason I don't think its hardware related is because the problem fades > away after a minute or so ( a bit like a car with damp ignition.....it may > start on 3 cylinders but runs on all 4 when warmed up ........Hey thats' it > , I'll spray some 'Dampstart' into the back of my PC ! ) > > I thought the real problem was either driver related , or Win ME putting > more demands on my system . If the latter , I'd like to know what the > minimum number of critical app's should be resident and working to play GPL > , i.e when I view the task manager. > > IJ > > "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nKOX7.316464$[email hidden]... > > Chances are its video and/or sound card driver related. Thats a pretty > slow system for what you > > want, I think since it was running fine under 98, I would have left well > enough alone until an > > equipment upgrade was possible. > > > > -- > > Biz > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > > the....." - Ash > > > > > > > > Ian Jarvis <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a0ocih$gcu$[email hidden]... > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > > > > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with > 32mb. > > > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > > > Tournament etc etc > > > > > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > > > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to run > quite > > > poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > > > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly > erodes > > > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > > > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > > > > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade my > PC > > > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > > > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > > > > > Please help > > > > > > IJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'd try the nVidia 6.50 drivers. Remove the 23.11 drivers using NVCleaner or Detonator Destroyer and install the 6.50 drivers, then try these values in your core.ini: I recently went to a TNT 2 from my Voodoo 2s and was given this info by a helping hand at Legends Central. Worked great in 98. Give it a try. Don't forget to back up your core.ini first... J. P. Hovercraft ----------- [ Int Profile Values ] value3 = Direct3D7:D3DDevice:0 value4 = Direct3D7:TossHighestMip:0 value5 = Direct3D7:TrilinearFiltering:0 value6 = Direct3D7:DoubleMirrorResWidth:0 value7 = Direct3D7:DoubleMirrorResHeight:0 value8 = Direct3D7:DirectMirrorRendering:0 value9 = Direct3D7:DisableZBuffer:0 [ Direct3D7 ] D3DDevice = 0 TossHighestMip = 0 DoubleMirrorResWidth = 0 DoubleMirrorResHeight = 0 DirectMirrorRendering = 1 DisableZBuffer = 0 TrilinearFiltering = 0 AlphaThreshold = 240 TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 0 AnisotropicFiltering = 0 LODBias = -50 ------------------- Ian Jarvis wrote:

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> Hi, > > I've got a fairly old setup which has been okay for GPL. > > Its a Pentium II 350 clocked to 400mhz , 128mb ram & a TNT2 Ultra with 32mb. > This all worked pretty well in hi-res for GPL / Quake III , Unreal > Tournament etc etc > > I recently opted to install Win ME, but things went backward. I've got > Directx8.1 plus detonator 23.11 installed , but GPL has started to run quite > poorly. When launched into the pitlane , the movement is very 'blocky / > jolty ( can't think of a better expression ! ) However this slowly erodes > and after one lap its nearly okay. However because of the initial slow > framerates , I can't get a clean start at VROC. > > I know some options are available i.e go back to Win98 , or upgrade my PC > ( which hopefully may happen soon ), but I was hoping this is a common > problem and you guys have all the answers............ > > Please help > > IJ