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NR2002 Demo in a Window

8 posts by 5 people · 01 Jan 2002 00:20 UTC - 01 Jan 2002 04:56 UTC

Marc Collins 01 Jan 2002 00:20 UTC#144230
Can you only use windowed mode if the resolution is equal to or lower than your desktop resolution? Renders it (pun intended) kind of useless for those capable of running at hi res (as I do with N4). The frame rates I am getting in NR2002 are about half what I get in N4--and that's with half as many cars on the track. Since I can't try OpenGL (what I use in N4), thought I would try the window mode as some report that frame rates are substantially higher. Thanks, Marc -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins [email hidden] Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? ****************************************************************************
Yes, windowed mode it only available at resolutions less than or equal to your desktop resolution (otherwise it game's window couldn't be fully displayed). - Eric "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2d7Y7.11293$[email hidden]... > Can you only use windowed mode if the resolution is equal to or lowerthan > your desktop resolution? Renders it (pun intended) kind of uselessfor > those capable of running at hi res (as I do with N4). The frame ratesI am > getting in NR2002 are about half what I get in N4--and that's withhalf as > many cars on the track. Since I can't try OpenGL (what I use in N4), > thought I would try the window mode as some report that frame ratesare > substantially higher.
Why the game doesn't switch to the correct resolution, like all the other program out there, regardless of the desktop resolution Eric ???? Eric Busch wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)> Yes, windowed mode it only available at resolutions less than or equal > to your desktop resolution (otherwise it game's window couldn't be fully > displayed). > > - Eric > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2d7Y7.11293$[email hidden]... > > Can you only use windowed mode if the resolution is equal to or lower > than > > your desktop resolution? Renders it (pun intended) kind of useless > for > > those capable of running at hi res (as I do with N4). The frame rates > I am > > getting in NR2002 are about half what I get in N4--and that's with > half as > > many cars on the track. Since I can't try OpenGL (what I use in N4), > > thought I would try the window mode as some report that frame rates > are > > substantially higher.
It does when you're running in full-screen mode. I've never seen an app that does what you're asking for when run in windowed mode, can you list some examples? - Eric "Coco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why the game doesn't switch to the correct resolution, like all theother > program out there, regardless of the desktop resolution Eric ????
I had the same question.....why are people with extremely fast systems (1.5ghz and above) getting terrible frames per second? "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dGaY7.3020$[email hidden]... > You are right, Eric...it's only logical that you can't have a windowlarger > than your desktop--at least not one that is going to be useful!! > > Can you tell us whether the final 2002 will have OpenGL and whether it is > true that the D3D version generally has better frame rates in windowedmode? > Also, are the dramatically lower frame rates most are experiencing just a > result of this being an early build? The graphics don't look any betteron
Quoted text (28 lines)> my system (1600 x 1200 16 bit) than N4, so I am hoping that I don't need > something faster than my P4 2.0GHz to run 2002 with a full field. > Basically, is it an early build or are there some other more sophisticated > calculations going on somewhere that account for the drop? > > Thanks and Happy New Year to you and all at Papy. > > Marc > > "Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a0rbon$gs$[email hidden]... > > It does when you're running in full-screen mode. I've never seen an app > > that does what you're asking for when run in windowed mode, can you list > > some examples? > > > > - Eric > > > > > > "Coco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Why the game doesn't switch to the correct resolution, like all the > > other > > > program out there, regardless of the desktop resolution Eric ???? > > > > > > >
You are right, Eric...it's only logical that you can't have a window larger than your desktop--at least not one that is going to be useful!! Can you tell us whether the final 2002 will have OpenGL and whether it is true that the D3D version generally has better frame rates in windowed mode? Also, are the dramatically lower frame rates most are experiencing just a result of this being an early build? The graphics don't look any better on my system (1600 x 1200 16 bit) than N4, so I am hoping that I don't need something faster than my P4 2.0GHz to run 2002 with a full field. Basically, is it an early build or are there some other more sophisticated calculations going on somewhere that account for the drop? Thanks and Happy New Year to you and all at Papy. Marc "Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a0rbon$gs$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> It does when you're running in full-screen mode. I've never seen an app > that does what you're asking for when run in windowed mode, can you list > some examples? > > - Eric > > > "Coco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Why the game doesn't switch to the correct resolution, like all the > other > > program out there, regardless of the desktop resolution Eric ???? > >
You actually expect an answer to those questions Marc? They might comment on the d3d/opengl but if you think they will comment on items that might be taken negatively, then I hope you are not holding your breath. :) Happy New Year. dave henrie "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dGaY7.3020$[email hidden]... > You are right, Eric...it's only logical that you can't have a windowlarger > than your desktop--at least not one that is going to be useful!! > > Can you tell us whether the final 2002 will have OpenGL and whether it is > true that the D3D version generally has better frame rates in windowedmode? > Also, are the dramatically lower frame rates most are experiencing just a > result of this being an early build? The graphics don't look any betteron > my system (1600 x 1200 16 bit) than N4, so I am hoping that I don't need > something faster than my P4 2.0GHz to run 2002 with a full field. > Basically, is it an early build or are there some other more sophisticated > calculations going on somewhere that account for the drop? >
More sophisticated calculations certainly doesn't equal negative to me. I was happy to buy GPL even though I knew I could only take advantage of it fully on a future system. If NR2002 has some sort of super advanced physics and AI that require more computing power, more power to Papy. I think it is simple, really...are these the frame rates we can expect in the final (I doubt it)? There certainly doesn't SEEM to be enough changed/improved to warrant the drop, but there may be lots we can't see...yet :) Marc "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iWaY7.2856$4d5.20375@rwcrnsc54... > You actually expect an answer to those questions Marc? They mightcomment > on the d3d/opengl but if you think they will comment on items that mightbe
Quoted text (10 lines)> taken negatively, then I hope you are not holding your breath. :) > Happy New Year. > dave henrie > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dGaY7.3020$[email hidden]... > > You are right, Eric...it's only logical that you can't have a window > larger > > than your desktop--at least not one that is going to be useful!! > > > > Can you tell us whether the final 2002 will have OpenGL and whether it
is > > true that the D3D version generally has better frame rates in windowed > mode? > > Also, are the dramatically lower frame rates most are experiencing justa > > result of this being an early build? The graphics don't look any better > on > > my system (1600 x 1200 16 bit) than N4, so I am hoping that I don't need > > something faster than my P4 2.0GHz to run 2002 with a full field. > > Basically, is it an early build or are there some other moresophisticated > > calculations going on somewhere that account for the drop? > > > >

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