Knockhill Raceway

Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced for GPL, or any other current sim? I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what a great little race track! TP

In message <Djm_7.63$762.243@rwcrnsc54> "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced for > GPL, or any other current sim? > > I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what a great > little race track! It's one of the best, isn't it?! By the way, would you blame Steve Soper (Peugeot) or Phil Bennett (Vauxhall) for that collision?! ;-) You can get it for SCGT, as someone converted it from TOCA 2. It would be *great* in some other sims... NASCAR 4! ;-) -- Richard. "You say yes, I say no."

I'm 100000000000000000% sure that if "someone" made the tools avilible - you would see lots of great tracks for N4.... but sadly that dont seem to be the case :-( -- ed_ "Richard Walker" <wrote: > > It would be *great* in some other sims... NASCAR 4! ;-) > > > -- > Richard. > > "You say yes, I say no."

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced for > GPL, or any other current sim? > > I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what a great > little race track! I just did a quick search of our GPL track editing forum at http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=19. Someone mentioned that they were making it but were having problems with the final hairpin. Apparently the track editors don't like parallel straights that almost touch, a la Mexico. This was in May 2001 BTW. Phil Lee -- Race Sim Central Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

What do they say about great minds Tom....I just left a message yesterday on BHMS forum to get it converted to Nascar Heat for DTM racing. Those curbed turns at the peak of a hill really intrigue me... dave henrie "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Djm_7.63$762.243@rwcrnsc54...

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> Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced for > GPL, or any other current sim? > > I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what a great > little race track! > > TP > >

It's been made for SCGT although there is no pit support. So you have to run two sprint races (I don't think the BTCC ever had a pitstop at Knockhill until this year anyway). Parenthetically I hate Knockhill. Hated it in TOCA. Hated it in TOCA2. Hate it now. And I'm Scottish. It's such a rinky-dink little circuit I can't get into a rhythm. Like the Sachsenring (the SCGT conversion is from GP500 prior to the straightening out of the back stretch). No offence to the hard working track converters its the tracks I don't like not the conversions. I just have a tough time on tight circuits, truth be told I don't like the modern Monaco circuit either except for the history. My problem. If you want it and can't find it I'll send it to you. I have most of the 2001 BTCC cars too if you want them. I'm running a season now and although I hate Knockhill it does imitate life well. You can't get a good time unless you clip the entry and exit apexes on the chicane before Clark, (the one Thompson bit it at a few years back with a Honda) and its pretty well 50-50 getting through or spinning out and causing massive prangs. With no pits it's pretty well a case of the walking wounded by the end of the race. Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Djm_7.63$762.243@rwcrnsc54...

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> Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced for > GPL, or any other current sim? > > I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what a great > little race track! > > TP > >

Thanks Euan,,, I found a site with many of the toca tracks so I'll be clearing the dust off my Dodge Stratus SCGT Super Tourer and checking Knockhill out. Thanks for pointing that out. dave henrie "Euan Gilmour" <egilmour@*NOSPAM*home.com> wrote in message news:OlG_7.3091$[email hidden]... > It's been made for SCGT although there is no pit support. So you have to > run two sprint races (I don't think the BTCC ever had a pitstop atKnockhill > until this year anyway). > > Parenthetically I hate Knockhill. Hated it in TOCA. Hated it in TOCA2.Hate > it now. And I'm Scottish. It's such a rinky-dink little circuit I can'tget > into a rhythm. Like the Sachsenring (the SCGT conversion is from GP500 > prior to the straightening out of the back stretch). > No offence to the hard working track converters its the tracks I don'tlike

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> not the conversions. I just have a tough time on tight circuits, truth be > told I don't like the modern Monaco circuit either except for the history. > My problem. > > If you want it and can't find it I'll send it to you. > > I have most of the 2001 BTCC cars too if you want them. I'm running a > season now and although I hate Knockhill it does imitate life well. You > can't get a good time unless you clip the entry and exit apexes on the > chicane before Clark, (the one Thompson bit it at a few years back with a > Honda) and its pretty well 50-50 getting through or spinning out and

causing > massive prangs. With no pits it's pretty well a case of the walkingwounded

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> by the end of the race. > > > > Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Djm_7.63$762.243@rwcrnsc54... > > Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced

for > > GPL, or any other current sim? > > > > I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what agreat

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> > little race track! > > > > TP > > > > > >

you are right, can't even start in the pits...no qualifying either that I can figure out...But you can start at the back of a race. Fun track with a Super Tourer. Hanging the backend out while the fronts claw over the curbing. Also loaded Oulton park, Took me about 5 laps just to figure out the various pathways through all the chicanes...I wish MORE tracks were open like that so leagues could run different events at the same venue. But of course the cheating/shortcutting becomes a big factor. Besides the lack of pits at Knockhill, my touring car install has become very fragile, it crashes to desktop when I exit a race. Not sure what's causing that. dave henrie "Euan Gilmour" <egilmour@*NOSPAM*home.com> wrote in message news:OlG_7.3091$[email hidden]... > It's been made for SCGT although there is no pit support. So you have to > run two sprint races (I don't think the BTCC ever had a pitstop atKnockhill > until this year anyway). > > Parenthetically I hate Knockhill. Hated it in TOCA. Hated it in TOCA2.Hate > it now. And I'm Scottish. It's such a rinky-dink little circuit I can'tget > into a rhythm. Like the Sachsenring (the SCGT conversion is from GP500 > prior to the straightening out of the back stretch). > No offence to the hard working track converters its the tracks I don'tlike

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> not the conversions. I just have a tough time on tight circuits, truth be > told I don't like the modern Monaco circuit either except for the history. > My problem. > > If you want it and can't find it I'll send it to you. > > I have most of the 2001 BTCC cars too if you want them. I'm running a > season now and although I hate Knockhill it does imitate life well. You > can't get a good time unless you clip the entry and exit apexes on the > chicane before Clark, (the one Thompson bit it at a few years back with a > Honda) and its pretty well 50-50 getting through or spinning out and

causing > massive prangs. With no pits it's pretty well a case of the walking wounded

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> by the end of the race. > > > > Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Djm_7.63$762.243@rwcrnsc54... > > Does anyone know if "Knockhill Raceway" in Scotland is being produced

for > > GPL, or any other current sim? > > > > I just watched at touring car race there on Speedvision......what agreat

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> > little race track! > > > > TP > > > > > >

In message <OlG_7.3091$[email hidden]> "Euan Gilmour" <egilmour@*NOSPAM*home.com> wrote: [ SCGT ] > I have most of the 2001 BTCC cars too if you want them. I'm running a > season now and although I hate Knockhill it does imitate life well. Are the physics any good? How is the front-wheel drive? And, most importantly, where do you get 'em?!?! -- Richard. "We all live in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine."

"Richard Walker" <> > I have most of the 2001 BTCC cars too if you want them. I'm running a > > season now and although I hate Knockhill it does imitate life well. > > Are the physics any good? How is the front-wheel drive? > > And, most importantly, where do you get 'em?!?! I have NO clue as to the physics being good as in a good representation of real life. But you really know it's a front wheel drive car. The back end can slide way out but the fronts keep clawing and pull ya through most corners. I would suspect they have a little too much grip, but since I've never been exposed to racing tires...I dunno. Touring cars are available at many SCGT sites...the tracks...I just did a google search for knockhill + SCGT and came upon them on about the third link.... Great bouncy fun...If SCGT had better multiplayer, our TPTCC league that is running DTM now would probably be using SCGT Touring Cars. dave henrie > > > -- > Richard. > > "We all live in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine."

If you ask me it was Bennett's fault. He turned down on Soper. I also thought he was totally unproffesional in the inverview after the race as well. I hope Soper punts him again. > By the way, would you blame Steve Soper (Peugeot) or Phil Bennett(Vauxhall) > for that collision?! ;-) >

In message <Mhs%7.75264$[email hidden]> "Carl Cottrell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > By the way, would you blame Steve Soper (Peugeot) or Phil Bennett > > (Vauxhall) for that collision?! ;-) > > If you ask me it was Bennett's fault. He turned down on Soper. I also > thought he was totally unproffesional in the inverview after the race as > well. I hope Soper punts him again. Just you wait until Croft, and the final race at Brands! :-) Sadly, the great Steve Soper has announced his retirement. He won't be driving in this year's BTCC. :-( -- Richard. "A taste of honey... tasting much sweeter than wine."