Hey All,
I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
Thanks
Newcomer asks what makes Grand Prix Legends so good
A newcomer asked what makes GPL special, and after some teasing regulars gave answers. They cited physics that respond to real driving technique, soft-chassis 1967 cars that suit PC limitations, strong online play, atmosphere and the fear factor. A few preferred other sims, and the thread had plenty of joking replies.
Automated summary.
friendly group aren't you? lol ;)
"Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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> Hey All, > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > Thanks > >friendly group aren't you? lol ;)
> Hey All,
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> Thanks
You posted this when most users are already offline...give it time and I'm
sure your trolling will reward you.
dave henrie
"Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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> Hey All, > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > Thanks > >"Gutty" wrote...
> Hey All,
>
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
It's pretty poo, actually, but everyone here pretends to like it in order to
feel accepted.
Jan./give the public what they want, I say. ;-)
=---
"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.
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> Hey All,
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> Thanks
Oh boy! Hehe, sits back and waits.......
8-)
*Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
IMHO what makes it so good is I can read the book "Going Faster" by
Skip Barber racing school, then try alot of the things mentioned in
this book and they actually work in GPL... and my lap times get better
and better since I started reading this book.
Which to me proves that GPL is very close if not dead on to accuratly
simulating real world physics,, perfect ? Nope,, but bloody close.
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:04:39 +1100, "Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>Hey All, > >I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > >Thanks > >The minty fresh taste. It's a sim, it's a breath freshener....
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Remove my shorts to reply
<Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
> IMHO what makes it so good is I can read the book "Going Faster" by
> Skip Barber racing school, then try alot of the things mentioned in
> this book and they actually work in GPL... and my lap times get better
> and better since I started reading this book.
>
> Which to me proves that GPL is very close if not dead on to accuratly
> simulating real world physics,, perfect ? Nope,, but bloody close.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:04:39 +1100, "Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Hey All,
> >
> >I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
>
GPL is arguably the best "overall" race sim out there at the moment.
There might be others that have say, better physics but suck at online play,
or better graphics but only 16-18 tracks etc..
Plus with the '67 era cars setup is, if not easy to get right, is at least
easier to understand then modern race cars with wings, ride height, traction
control etc..
As for the "arguably" part, wait for the flames....
Art.
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> Hey All, > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > Thanks > > The FD mod, period :)
-John
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-John
> Hey All,
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> Thanks
(Rich#8) writes:
I think it is an important factor that the cars simulated by
GPL have very soft chassis compared to modern cars. This makes
everything in the dynamics happen a lot slower which reduces
the problems with the limitations in a PC simulation (low frame
rate, low resolution, high control delay etc).
In other words, a good model of an easy target makes an
excellent simulation.
Modern F1 (and even modern sports car) simulations have
a much harder problem to solve. It might even be impossible
to achieve the fidelity of GPL with a modern F1 simulation
on todays PCs.
_
Mats Lofkvist
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> IMHO what makes it so good is I can read the book "Going Faster" by > Skip Barber racing school, then try alot of the things mentioned in > this book and they actually work in GPL... and my lap times get better > and better since I started reading this book. > > Which to me proves that GPL is very close if not dead on to accuratly > simulating real world physics,, perfect ? Nope,, but bloody close.The feel.
Chris
"Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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> Hey All, > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > Thanks > >The feel.
Chris
> Hey All,
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> Thanks
Actually, I suck big time at GPL (haven't put the hours in), and I much
prefer Viper Racing or Grand Prix 3, the only advantage that GPL has is the
fact you don't need the CD to play. It's also bloody time consuming.
A man who wishes to remain anonymous, London
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Gutty" wrote...
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
>
> It's pretty poo, actually, but everyone here pretends to like it in orderto
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> feel accepted. > > Jan./give the public what they want, I say. ;-) > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > >>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gutty) wrote:
>
> Hey All,
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> Thanks
Deathmatch.
capture the flag?
Peter H
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> >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gutty) wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > Thanks > > Deathmatch. >or that huge favourite - Lotus Arena
Peter H
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> capture the flag? > > Peter H > > <jwilliam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gutty) wrote: > > > > > > Hey All, > > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > > Thanks > > > > Deathmatch. > > > >or that huge favourite - Lotus Arena
Peter H
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> capture the flag? > Peter H > > > Hey All, > > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > > Thanks > > Deathmatch.For me, fun is driving on real racetracks in real life. GPL is for me
the game that comes closest to satisfy the need when I can't do it for
real (in the winter time mainly)
And I do wonder if it might not be so that GPL has the highest
percentage of people also racing for real - from low end hobby club
track days to whateever. Dunno....
/Magnus T
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> The feel. > > Chris > "Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Hey All, > > > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > > > Thanks > > > >Perhaps there is a greater appreciation of the game if one were alive and
followed those cars/drivers during that era? Having met Dan Gurney briefly
a couple times, I'm still struck by a person that tall fitting in one of
those little crates let alone being so successful in them. GPL isn't easy,
just as the real-life driving of the day wasn't.
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Chris H.
"Magnus T" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> For me, fun is driving on real racetracks in real life. GPL is for me
> the game that comes closest to satisfy the need when I can't do it for
> real (in the winter time mainly)
>
> And I do wonder if it might not be so that GPL has the highest
> percentage of people also racing for real - from low end hobby club
> track days to whateever. Dunno....
>
> /Magnus T
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> "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > The feel.
> >
> > Chris
> > "Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > Hey All,
> > >
> > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
>
Chris H. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vlU58.113190$%[email hidden]...
> Perhaps there is a greater appreciation of the game if one were alive and
> followed those cars/drivers during that era? Having met Dan Gurney briefly
> a couple times, I'm still struck by a person that tall fitting in one of
> those little crates let alone being so successful in them. GPL isn't easy,
> just as the real-life driving of the day wasn't.
Well, I was born ten years *after* the GPL season and it's the only
driving game I play, so that kills that theory ;-)
Jonny
"Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Chris H. <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:vlU58.113190$%[email hidden]...
> > Perhaps there is a greater appreciation of the game if one were aliveand
> > followed those cars/drivers during that era? Having met Dan Gurneybriefly
> > a couple times, I'm still struck by a person that tall fitting in one of
> > those little crates let alone being so successful in them. GPL isn'teasy,
> > just as the real-life driving of the day wasn't.
>
> Well, I was born ten years *after* the GPL season and it's the only
> driving game I play, so that kills that theory ;-)
>
> Jonny
I was born the year *before* the GPL season so I guess the theory applies to
me... <g>
Can't say I have very many F1 memories though. My earliest sports memories
all involve the Montreal Canadiens, sorry.
Still a good memory, Rob, even though Larry Robinson's coaching talents
weren't recognized in either Los Angeles or New Jersey.
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> "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Chris H. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > Perhaps there is a greater appreciation of the game if one were alive
> and
> > > followed those cars/drivers during that era? Having met Dan Gurney
> briefly
> > > a couple times, I'm still struck by a person that tall fitting in one
of
> > > those little crates let alone being so successful in them. GPL isn't
> easy,
> > > just as the real-life driving of the day wasn't.
> >
> > Well, I was born ten years *after* the GPL season and it's the only
> > driving game I play, so that kills that theory ;-)
> >
> > Jonny
>
> I was born the year *before* the GPL season so I guess the theory applies
to
> me... <g>
>
> Can't say I have very many F1 memories though. My earliest sports memories
> all involve the Montreal Canadiens, sorry.
>
>
>
>Still a good memory, Rob, even though Larry Robinson's coaching talents
>weren't recognized in either Los Angeles or New Jersey.
LET"S GO RANGERS!!!!!
Who? What's baseball got to do with hockey? 8-)
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"TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >Still a good memory, Rob, even though Larry Robinson's coaching talents
> >weren't recognized in either Los Angeles or New Jersey.
>
> LET"S GO RANGERS!!!!!
>
>capture the flag?
Nah, has to be �last man standing�, preferred
map: turn 1 at Monza or Silverstone ;)
Honestly: I think, one can drive this sim for years
and is still improving. (And it has everything you need:
sufficient graphics, not too bad AI, best online play
so far, nice force feedback, ...)
And then it is the game that features the most tracks,
There is almost no place on earth uncovered ->
BIG THX to all the track creators!
Calis
"Gutty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
> Hey All,
>
> I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
>
> Thanks
>
Atmosphere: the combination of colour palette, updated graphics, sound and
the brilliant new cockpits really put you in the seat, I think.
"Oh shit" moments: one develops a real sense of fear with this game. Beads
of sweat will form on your brow any time you are faced with a 5th gear
corner or chicane. Maybe it's because things happen a little more slowly
when it all goes wrong. You have a moment or two to contemplate your fate
before you finally hit.
Wheel to wheel racing: The slidy, softly-sprung cars really let you go side
by side through several corners. The ability to look left and right (if you
are dexterous) lets you keep tabs on your opponent and race cleanly.
Constant improvement: You will always get better with more practice.
Beautiful car models: Now that there are cars like the GPLEA Eagle, your jaw
will drop each time you watch a replay.
Nice force feedback: You know what the front tires and back tires are
doing.
Crazy racetracks: 1960s F1 drivers had cajones. Big ones. I still shake
my head (and grin like an idiot) as I fling myself around some of these
tracks.
And that's just the joys of off-line racing...
Stephen
p.s. most of the same applies to F1-2001, which is getting a lot of my
precious spare time now. The cars are of course much different in their
reactions, but you can "play" with the car the same way you can in GPL (and
in ways you can't with GP3, my former favourite) and really fell the
front-end grip.
The groupies!
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> >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gutty) wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > Thanks > > Deathmatch. >The groupies!
> > Hey All,
> > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good?
> > Thanks
> Deathmatch.
I don't know what? I hotlap but never really got into this game. On the
other hand........F1 2001 or N4........:)
"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> The groupies! > > <jwilliam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gutty) wrote: > > > > > > Hey All, > > > I'm new to this newsgroup and GPL, what makes it so good? > > > Thanks > > > > Deathmatch. > > > >I don't know what? I hotlap but never really got into this game. On the
other hand........F1 2001 or N4........:)
