Radeon 8500 and N4/GPL

Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what kind of performance are you getting at the high resolutions? Here's my specs: Tbird 1.33 Epox 8KTA3 mb 256mb pc133 ram (micron) SB Live X-gamer sound card WinXP Home edition I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest res. Vintook

yer dreaming I think. almost all advice sites recomend staying in 16bit color. Going to 32bit and highest resolutions will tax your 1.33 Tbird and the vidcard. I'm not sure if the Radeon handles 32bit any better than a Geforce3. the only vidcard that does 32bit without a slowdown is the Kyro and that has other issues. dave henrie "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what kindof

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> performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > Here's my specs: > Tbird 1.33 > Epox 8KTA3 mb > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > SB Live X-gamer sound card > WinXP Home edition > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest

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"AlvinKlein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > For me (R8500, Tbird 1.4, KK266, 512mb) there's very little differencewith N4 > at 16bit or 32bits. Besides in N4, at least with my system, only 16bit is > selectable in openGL. 32bit color is selectable in Direct3D but openGLruns > much better, and looks better it seems, so I only run it on OpenGL. I runit on > 1152x864 with 2X quality Smoothvision, with high anisotropic filter (looks > better than 1600x1200) and get about 60s to high 70's fps. It actuallyruns > faster (about 80s to mid 90s fps) at 1600x1200 with no smoothvision. Yea, but that's on the track with no other cars around, right? I have an 8500 too and see just over 90fps at Daytona with just me on the track, but as soon as I race with a full field it's quite a bit less than that.

I run 1024*768 at 32 bit with a Radeon 7500 with most items on (not all) and get 40-90 when racing online, 12 ahead, 3 behind. Running a 1.33 Tbird with 768MB ram. Also 32 bit is selectable in OpenGL as that is what I run. "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what kindof

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> performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > Here's my specs: > Tbird 1.33 > Epox 8KTA3 mb > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > SB Live X-gamer sound card > WinXP Home edition > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest

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If you get the radeon your nuts... there are hundreds of posts with problems with 2 things now days, Radeons & Soundblasters. SO THINK! You want things to run at or above most performance levels, but you are going to buy the cheapy alternative??? yeah right Im sure the Yugo would keep up with the Honda CRX... SURE... If you drove them off a cliff at the same, time I bet there would be little performance difference in the 2 at least till they hit the water.... Jesus Chrysler fellas, use your head "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what kindof

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> performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > Here's my specs: > Tbird 1.33 > Epox 8KTA3 mb > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > SB Live X-gamer sound card > WinXP Home edition > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest

res. > > Vintook > > >

All cards have problems, period. ATI is no worse than others they just are slower on drivers. "Stingre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you get the radeon your nuts... there are hundreds of posts with > problems with 2 things now days, Radeons & Soundblasters. SO THINK! You > want things to run at or above most performance levels, but you are goingto

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> buy the cheapy alternative??? yeah right Im sure the Yugo would keep up > with the Honda CRX... SURE... If you drove them off a cliff at the same, > time I bet there would be little performance difference in the 2 at least > till they hit the water.... > > Jesus Chrysler fellas, use your head > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what

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> of > > performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > > > Here's my specs: > > Tbird 1.33 > > Epox 8KTA3 mb > > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > > SB Live X-gamer sound card > > WinXP Home edition > > > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest > res. > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > >

Funny, I read lots of posts from GeForce owners having problems with F1 2001. "Stingre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you get the radeon your nuts... there are hundreds of posts with > problems with 2 things now days, Radeons & Soundblasters. SO THINK! You > want things to run at or above most performance levels, but you are goingto

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> buy the cheapy alternative??? yeah right Im sure the Yugo would keep up > with the Honda CRX... SURE... If you drove them off a cliff at the same, > time I bet there would be little performance difference in the 2 at least > till they hit the water.... > > Jesus Chrysler fellas, use your head > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what

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> of > > performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > > > Here's my specs: > > Tbird 1.33 > > Epox 8KTA3 mb > > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > > SB Live X-gamer sound card > > WinXP Home edition > > > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest > res. > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > >

Er, oops I guess I initiated the flame-backs (sorry) but one thing stands out Steve... HE SAID NASCAR4 & GPL, not F1. if he had said F1, I would have had to keep my comments to myself (aka mouth shut), as I obviously wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about. I haven't seen whatever F1 is. Now then, I just want to know, am I one of the few who actually reads the questions?? HMMMM!? <G>. Artificial Intelligence is no match for NATURAL stupidity... --Stingre "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KcE18.3310$[email hidden]...

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> Funny, I read lots of posts from GeForce owners having problems with F1 > 2001. > > "Stingre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > If you get the radeon your nuts... there are hundreds of posts with > > problems with 2 things now days, Radeons & Soundblasters. SO THINK!

You > > want things to run at or above most performance levels, but you aregoing > to > > buy the cheapy alternative??? yeah right Im sure the Yugo would keep up > > with the Honda CRX... SURE... If you drove them off a cliff at the same, > > time I bet there would be little performance difference in the 2 atleast

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> > till they hit the water.... > > > > Jesus Chrysler fellas, use your head > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > > > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what > kind > > of > > > performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > > > > > Here's my specs: > > > Tbird 1.33 > > > Epox 8KTA3 mb > > > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > > > SB Live X-gamer sound card > > > WinXP Home edition > > > > > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the

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Do you own a radeon 8500? Do you run it with these games? From reading threads on other message boards (since posting here) I have found that a majority of radeon 8500 owners have very few problems and get almost equal performance to Ti500 cards (a couble FPS is nothing). I was only looking to find anyone else in this newsgroup that owns one and what kind of performance they get at the highest resolutions so I have an idea of what to expect when I recieve my card. Responses like yours are just worthless and don't answer anything. If you've never owned a radeon then I don't see how you can even base any kind of a response at all on what you seem to perceive from reading a couple posts somewhere. Vintook "Stingre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Er, oops I guess I initiated the flame-backs (sorry) but one thing stands > out Steve... HE SAID NASCAR4 & GPL, not F1. > if he had said F1, I would have had to keep my comments to myself (akamouth

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> shut), as I obviously wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about. I > haven't seen whatever F1 is. > > Now then, I just want to know, am I one of the few who actually reads the > questions?? HMMMM!? <G>. > > Artificial Intelligence is no match for NATURAL stupidity... > --Stingre > > "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KcE18.3310$[email hidden]... > > Funny, I read lots of posts from GeForce owners having problems with F1 > > 2001. > > > > "Stingre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > If you get the radeon your nuts... there are hundreds of posts with > > > problems with 2 things now days, Radeons & Soundblasters. SO THINK! > You > > > want things to run at or above most performance levels, but you are > going > > to > > > buy the cheapy alternative??? yeah right Im sure the Yugo would keep

up > > > with the Honda CRX... SURE... If you drove them off a cliff at thesame,

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> > > time I bet there would be little performance difference in the 2 at > least > > > till they hit the water.... > > > > > > Jesus Chrysler fellas, use your head > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:vKo18.232717$[email hidden]... > > > > Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what > > kind > > > of > > > > performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > > > > > > > Here's my specs: > > > > Tbird 1.33 > > > > Epox 8KTA3 mb > > > > 256mb pc133 ram (micron) > > > > SB Live X-gamer sound card > > > > WinXP Home edition > > > > > > > > I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the > highest > > > res. > > > > > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ignore stingre, he's just a trolling prick. I have an 8500 and am running a TBird 1ghz with 768mb RAM on Win2K with an older SB Live. I am *not* running the latest drivers (6011 for Win2k) yet, and am in fact two versions behind as i write this. I'm running N4 at 1600x1200x32 but with a few things turned down/off. If you want details, I'll write them down for you later today. GPL is jerky at times, and I don't know why. I've stopped running the updated car files and 3d wheels, but I still have the problem. The experiemental OpenGL module for GPL doesn't work at all for me. I seem to remember seeing other people saying they're doing fine with this hardware combo in GPL. In article <mNJ18.244954$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Do you own a radeon 8500? Do you run it with these games? From reading > threads on other message boards (since posting here) I have found that a > majority of radeon 8500 owners have very few problems and get almost equal > performance to Ti500 cards (a couble FPS is nothing). I was only looking to > find anyone else in this newsgroup that owns one and what kind of > performance they get at the highest resolutions so I have an idea of what to > expect when I recieve my card. Responses like yours are just worthless and > don't answer anything. If you've never owned a radeon then I don't see how > you can even base any kind of a response at all on what you seem to perceive > from reading a couple posts somewhere. > > Vintook

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"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZGB18.95237$[email hidden]... > All cards have problems, period. ATI is no worse than others they justare > slower on drivers. Yea, and that's the *big* problem with ATI. They said with the release of the R8500 they would be releasing drivers on a bi-weekly basis, well I haven't seen new drivers for the R8500 for almost two months now. I can't play FS2002 with the ATI drivers, I have to use 3rd party hacked drivers (Omega). The R8500 is superior hardware running on inferior drivers. If ATI doesn't get out decent drivers soon this will be the first and *last* ATI card I ever buy.

Hello, I changed from a V5 5500 to the ATi Radeon 8500 retail when the 8500 first came back, so I have had quite a bit of gaming time on it. From what I have seen, there has been little performance difference between 16 bit and 32 bit colour. Relative to many other cards I have used, the 8500 actully seems to suffer less when going to 32 bit colour. I have not had any problems with N4 and my setup. The one game I have had some problems with is Ubi Soft's F1 Racing Championship. Abit KT7-R 768 Megs PC133 AMD TBird 1 GHz ATi 8500 Retail SB Audigy Win 98SE/XP dual boot 2 x IBM 75 GXP 46 Gig in RAID 0 I run at 1024x768; 2X FSAA; high quality everything; all views maxed and I get anywhere from 26 fps to 45 fps. Raymond ACT LABS www.act-labs.com On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:17:31 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what kind of >performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > >Here's my specs: >Tbird 1.33 >Epox 8KTA3 mb >256mb pc133 ram (micron) >SB Live X-gamer sound card >WinXP Home edition > >I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest res. > >Vintook > >

I'm running my 8500 with a 1.2 Tbird and 512 Meg Ram. As far as speed is concerned this thing flys but the drivers are terrible (random crashing, imcompatability with some games). I'm afraid that if I don't see some new drivers (that work) soon, this card will go back. Pity really. "Raymond, ACT LABS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hello, > > I changed from a V5 5500 to the ATi Radeon 8500 retail when the 8500 > first came back, so I have had quite a bit of gaming time on it. From > what I have seen, there has been little performance difference between > 16 bit and 32 bit colour. Relative to many other cards I have used, > the 8500 actully seems to suffer less when going to 32 bit colour. > > I have not had any problems with N4 and my setup. The one game I have > had some problems with is Ubi Soft's F1 Racing Championship. > Abit KT7-R > 768 Megs PC133 > AMD TBird 1 GHz > ATi 8500 Retail > SB Audigy > Win 98SE/XP dual boot > 2 x IBM 75 GXP 46 Gig in RAID 0 > > I run at 1024x768; 2X FSAA; high quality everything; all views maxed > and I get anywhere from 26 fps to 45 fps. > > Raymond > ACT LABS > www.act-labs.com > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:17:31 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Anyone using one for these games? What is your system specs and what kind

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> >performance are you getting at the high resolutions? > > > >Here's my specs: > >Tbird 1.33 > >Epox 8KTA3 mb > >256mb pc133 ram (micron) > >SB Live X-gamer sound card > >WinXP Home edition > > > >I have a GF2MX 32mb card now but want to run N4 in 32bit at the highest

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"LeeLizz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm running my 8500 with a 1.2 Tbird and 512 Meg Ram. As far as speed is >concerned this thing flys but the drivers are terrible (random crashing, >imcompatability with some games). I'm afraid that if I don't see some new >drivers (that work) soon, this card will go back. Pity really. Word from the guy who runs Rage3d (in the Beyond3d forum) is to expect new drivers in the next week or two.

"AlvinKlein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "LeeLizz" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Word from the guy who runs Rage3d (in the Beyond3d forum) is to expect new > drivers in the next week or two. Yea, let's hope they are good too. Now with Hercules onboard, and a few other 3rd party hardware vendors, I would hope that ATI realizes they absolutely must get on the ball when it comes to good solid drivers. This card will truly rock with good drivers.