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GPL D3D 7 - locked at 60Hz scan rate?

12 posts by 6 people · 20 Jan 2002 07:22 UTC - 24 Jan 2002 04:22 UTC

John Cauthen 20 Jan 2002 07:22 UTC#140926
I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I've got the D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so it appears by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly not taking up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border all the way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75 Hz in 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. Thanks, John Cauthen
"John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2drar$1rad$[email hidden]... > I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some > reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I've gotthe > D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop > setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so it appears > by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly nottaking > up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border all the > way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75 Hzin > 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. This is peculiar - normally if you use the same video mode as your desktop, it will be the same refresh - are you sure your desktop isn't 32-bit or something? One of the great features of Windows XP is that you can choose custom refresh rates in DirectX(8?) games like F12001.
Try HZTool http://hem.spray.se/doxx/ This allows you to customise refresh rates at all resolutions you may run. Cheers Tony "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2drar$1rad$[email hidden]... > I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some > reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I'vegot the > D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop > setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so itappears > by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly nottaking > up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border allthe > way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75Hz in
Quoted text (7 lines)> 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. > > Thanks, > > John Cauthen > >
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:a2e53s$10me8b$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > This is peculiar - normally if you use the same video mode as your > desktop, it will be the same refresh - are you sure your desktop isn't > 32-bit or something? One of the great features of Windows XP is that > you can choose custom refresh rates in DirectX(8?) games like F12001. > >
I've read that XP locks all D3D games into 60hz unless you can get out a registry tweaker or similar, likewise openGL is stuck at 75hz. One more reason I've put off upgrading- so is that not true, or are refresh rates only changeable on new games coded with DX8 in mind? cheers John
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2e53s$10me8b$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a2drar$1rad$[email hidden]... > > I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some > > reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I've got > the > > D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop > > setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so it
appears > > by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly not > taking > > up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border allthe > > way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75 Hz > in > > 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. > > This is peculiar - normally if you use the same video mode as yourdesktop, > it will be the same refresh - are you sure your desktop isn't 32-bit or > something? No, I'm using 16 bit color... btw, this is with Windows 98 SE. > One of the great features of Windows XP is that you can choose > custom refresh rates in DirectX(8?) games like F12001. I'll break down and buy Windows XP sooner or later. Read on a bit... I think I've partially solved my problem at the very least. Thanks, John
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2e53s$10me8b$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a2drar$1rad$[email hidden]... > > I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some > > reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I've got > the > > D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop > > setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so it
appears > > by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly not > taking > > up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border allthe > > way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75 Hz > in > > 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. > > This is peculiar - normally if you use the same video mode as yourdesktop, > it will be the same refresh - are you sure your desktop isn't 32-bit or > something? No, I'm using 16 bit color... btw, this is with Windows 98 SE. > One of the great features of Windows XP is that you can choose > custom refresh rates in DirectX(8?) games like F12001. I'll break down and buy Windows XP sooner or later. Read on a bit... I think I've partially solved my problem at the very least. Thanks, John
"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AFx28.5453$[email hidden]... > Try HZTool http://hem.spray.se/doxx/ > > This allows you to customise refresh rates at all resolutions you may > run. Got the Hz Tool and ran it Tony... thanks! I just made double sure that I had a refresh rate of 85Hz with it in 1024x768x16. It doesn't appear that it really changed anything, but I have learned this - I believe I'm expecting the title and menu screens to be presented in that res. They seem to flicker and are obviously not taking up the full desktop screen size. I'm not sure it's supposed to though. When I get to the track, I don't see the flickering, so I guess I'm getting the job done there. I can't recall now, do the menu screens flicker? Also, do they take up the same screen area as the desktop? Again, I'm running Windows 98 SE John Cauthen
Quoted text (28 lines)> > Cheers > > Tony > > "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a2drar$1rad$[email hidden]... > > I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some > > reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I've > got the > > D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop > > setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so it > appears > > by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly not > taking > > up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border all > the > > way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75 > Hz in > > 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. > > > > Thanks, > > > > John Cauthen > > > > > >
John, all the GPL menu screens are 640x480, so whatever refresh rate your adapters 640x480 res defaults to is what its using. The resolution you can affect is strictly for driving/replays. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash John Cauthen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2g32t$3duh$[email hidden]... > > "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AFx28.5453$[email hidden]... > > Try HZTool http://hem.spray.se/doxx/ > > > > This allows you to customise refresh rates at all resolutions you may > > run. > > Got the Hz Tool and ran it Tony... thanks! I just made double sure that I > had a refresh rate of 85Hz with it in 1024x768x16. It doesn't appear that > it really changed anything, but I have learned this - I believe I'm > expecting the title and menu screens to be presented in that res. They seem > to flicker and are obviously not taking up the full desktop screen size. > I'm not sure it's supposed to though. When I get to the track, I don't see > the flickering, so I guess I'm getting the job done there. > > I can't recall now, do the menu screens flicker? Also, do they take up the > same screen area as the desktop? Again, I'm running Windows 98 SE > > John Cauthen > > > > > Cheers > > > > Tony > > > > "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:a2drar$1rad$[email hidden]... > > > I just installed my new Samsung SyncMaster 753DF monitor and for some > > > reason, I can't get GPL to run at anything higher than 60 Hz. I've > > got the > > > D3D 7 Rasterizer set to 1024x768-16, which is the same as my desktop > > > setting. Yet when I try to run GPL, it reverts to 60 Hz (or so it > > appears > > > by the flickering). Also, the title and menu screens are clearly not > > taking > > > up the screen area I'd defined in desktop. there's a 1/2" border all > > the > > > way around. Any clues as to what's up? I know I was using GPL at 75 > > Hz in > > > 1024 x 768 with my old GVC monitor. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > John Cauthen > > > > > > > > > > > >
> I can't recall now, do the menu screens flicker? Also, do they takeup the > same screen area as the desktop? Again, I'm running Windows 98 SE The menu screens run at different resolution. With the HZ tool you can select all the resolutions and bump them up
John, have the same monitor. did you install the retail monitor driver? I had problems too that on a random basis the frequency switched to 60 Hz after reboot or resolution canges. Found out that certain tweaking of my Geforce and any GF-driver reinstallation paralized the monitor driver. It was still there, but not working properly. Just throw in the CD and reinstall. HTH JensSchumi On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:47:40 -0500, "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95
[email hidden] (JS) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > John, > have the same monitor. > did you install the retail monitor driver? Ah, you have the same monitor? Cool, I've got a question for you relating to that later. I installed the monitor driver that came in the package. I believe it's dated October. I'm away from my home PC at the moment and can't check. > I had problems too that on a random basis the frequency switched to 60 Hz after > reboot or resolution canges. Found out that certain tweaking of my Geforce and > any GF-driver reinstallation paralized the monitor driver. It was still there, > but not working properly. > Just throw in the CD and reinstall. I just got the monitor on Friday and installed the driver on top of the Geforce settings that were already there. None of them had been changed. I did set the scan rate to 85 Hz for 1024x768 and 800x600. I'll try reinstalling the monitor driver again just to ensure that I don't have a problem of the type you encountered. Let me ask you a question about your Samsung 753DF. Is it possible to get the display to fill the entire physical area of the screen? No matter what I do, I have about a 3/16" black border all the way around the display. All the monitors that I've had prior to now had the capability of filling the entire screen area. Is this just a characteristic of this monitor? Thanks, John Cauthen
Quoted text (13 lines)> > HTH > JensSchumi > > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:47:40 -0500, "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote: > <snip> > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95
John, no prob with the screen here. I can stretch the picture even beyong the border. Seems that the factory adjustment of yours is not ok. HTH JensSchumi On 23 Jan 2002 02:40:23 -0800, [email hidden] (John Cauthen) wrote: <snip>>
Quoted text (13 lines)>Let me ask you a question about your Samsung 753DF. Is it possible to >get the display to fill the entire physical area of the screen? No >matter what I do, I have about a 3/16" black border all the way around >the display. All the monitors that I've had prior to now had the >capability of filling the entire screen area. Is this just a >characteristic of this monitor? > >Thanks, > >John Cauthen > > >
--------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

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