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Nascar Heat online/offline grip difference

3 posts by 3 people · 21 Jan 2002 20:38 UTC - 23 Jan 2002 03:47 UTC

Dave Henrie 21 Jan 2002 20:38 UTC#140616
The Tptcc and Porrs leagues are two of the groups using mods for NH. DTM and Cart Heat. One thing several of us have found is that online you have MUCH less grip than offline(with the same setups) Our latest CART test at Mosport turned up something...perhaps somebody may have a clue why. We ran several quick pickup races with no qualifying and, as expected, we experienced very slick conditions(using Hardcore settings) But for the last race we ran a qualifying session, and the offline grip was back. With only one car on the track during qualifying, the grip level seemed very close to offline. Then when the group was back for the race start, the slipperyness also resurfaced. Any clues what causes the difference? dave henrie
While I have no idea why this happens I have seen this in other titles as well. The Ratbag ones are some of the worst for it. As far as having grip in qualifying goes I believe that would be caused by the fact that qualifying is a offline action not really an online one. Therefore its just an extension of what you have already seen, not something new. MadDAWG
This may have something to do with how the online code uses predictive positioning to place the cars for other players -- we tend to think of OTHER people's cars jerking and such as things try to stay in sync, but I wonder how much the code compensates YOUR position to keep things close? For example, I think Heat uses the AI ghostcar files for predictive positioning, and if that's affecting YOUR car as well, the grip levels may SEEM different, when it's really your lateral and longitudinal POSITIONING (and not the GRIP) that's different during online play. Just a hairbrained theory, but it might have some merit. Maybe we can discuss this more in-depth with some of the Heat gurus once the BHMS or Speedsims/Tiresmoke forums get back on-line. -- JB On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:02 -0500, "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>While I have no idea why this happens I have seen this in other titles as >well. The Ratbag ones are some of the worst for it. As far as having grip in >qualifying goes I believe that would be caused by the fact that qualifying >is a offline action not really an online one. Therefore its just an >extension of what you have already seen, not something new. > >MadDAWG > >

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