OT: anyone here ever landed at this airport ?

craziest thing I've ever seen.. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599

craziest thing I've ever seen.. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599

Jesus!! Just relaxing on the beach... <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > craziest thing I've ever seen.. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599 > >

Or this one. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543

"Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2lq1b$11hge9$[email hidden]... > Or this one. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543 Well, this explains it: http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=199873 You'll see more scary pictures, if you select 'More: St. Maarten' Ice D

I've landed @ that airport...but in something small & ancient, like a Grumman Goose. I had no idea anything as big as a 747 could set down there. Still, it's nothing like as hairy as the airport in St. Thomas, where the runway is wrinkled up like a rug from 737s slamming on the brakes--if you don't get it stopped, you have your choice of hitting a mountain at the end of the runway...or a Shell station! <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > craziest thing I've ever seen.. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599 > >

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>>craziest thing I've ever seen.. >> >>http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599 >> > Or this one. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543

Not quite like that. Eouch! I've been to St. Croix, though, in a 757 and the runway didn't feel much bigger. When we flew out we were part of a rush of people leaving the islands because of Hurricane Lenny. I remembered the runway as being quite short anyway, so it didn't surprise me much when the captain hit the end, locked the brakes and proceeded to wind up the engines. What *DID* surprise me was when he them back down. After a few moments of silence the captain came over the intercom and said we'd have to wait a bit as we were too heavy and couldn't take off. I figured a few people would have to get off. Well, not two minutes later he announced that the problem was solved and started racing the engines again. Keep in mind that this is not only a short runway, but in a driving rain with brisk cross winds because of the approaching hurricane. AND NOT A SOUL HAD TOUCHED THE AIRPLANE TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF! Color me scared shitless when he released the brakes. I'd have sworn I saw water under the airplane before the wheels left the ground. -Dirt-

"Dirt" (snipsy) Keep in mind that this is not only a short

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> runway, but in a driving rain with brisk cross winds because of > the approaching hurricane. AND NOT A SOUL HAD TOUCHED THE > AIRPLANE TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF! Color me scared shitless when he > released the brakes. I'd have sworn I saw water under the > airplane before the wheels left the ground. > > -Dirt-

So they sat there for a couple of minutes and burned off some fuel. That might have been jusst enough...you did get airborne and live right??? :) dave henrie

Holy crap, at first I figured it was a good fake...!!!!! Milhouse <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > craziest thing I've ever seen.. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599 > >

> Holy crap, at first I figured it was a good fake...!!!!! A lot of them are. The higher up ones are generally real. Easy ways to spot.... 1. Lack of shadow 2. Landing gear not quite down despite altitude of less than 50 feet 3. Noone looking at the sky despite 767 100 feet above them .... Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:12:37 GMT, Dirt <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>>craziest thing I've ever seen.. >>> >>>http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599 >>> >> Or this one. >> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543 > >Not quite like that. Eouch! > >I've been to St. Croix, though, in a 757 and the runway didn't >feel much bigger. When we flew out we were part of a rush of >people leaving the islands because of Hurricane Lenny. I >remembered the runway as being quite short anyway, so it didn't >surprise me much when the captain hit the end, locked the brakes >and proceeded to wind up the engines. What *DID* surprise me >was when he them back down. After a few moments of silence the >captain came over the intercom and said we'd have to wait a bit >as we were too heavy and couldn't take off. I figured a few >people would have to get off. Well, not two minutes later he >announced that the problem was solved and started racing the >engines again. Keep in mind that this is not only a short >runway, but in a driving rain with brisk cross winds because of >the approaching hurricane. AND NOT A SOUL HAD TOUCHED THE >AIRPLANE TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF!

Hehe, you got your bags when you landed again? ;-) Great story. :) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:12:37 GMT, Dirt <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>>>craziest thing I've ever seen.. >>>> >>>>http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599 >>>> >>>> >>>Or this one. >>> >>>http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543 >>> >>Not quite like that. Eouch! >> >>I've been to St. Croix, though, in a 757 and the runway didn't >>feel much bigger. When we flew out we were part of a rush of >>people leaving the islands because of Hurricane Lenny. I >>remembered the runway as being quite short anyway, so it didn't >>surprise me much when the captain hit the end, locked the brakes >>and proceeded to wind up the engines. What *DID* surprise me >>was when he them back down. After a few moments of silence the >>captain came over the intercom and said we'd have to wait a bit >>as we were too heavy and couldn't take off. I figured a few >>people would have to get off. Well, not two minutes later he >>announced that the problem was solved and started racing the >>engines again. Keep in mind that this is not only a short >>runway, but in a driving rain with brisk cross winds because of >>the approaching hurricane. AND NOT A SOUL HAD TOUCHED THE >>AIRPLANE TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF! >> > > Hehe, you got your bags when you landed again? ;-) > Great story. :) >

I'd say he had already filled his bags/trunks ;) Ash

> Hehe, you got your bags when you landed again? ;-) > Great story. :) Yup. Everything arrived more-or-less in one piece. Except the flight attendants. We hit some pretty wicked turbulence during the drink service that knocked down a few of the attendants and got some cranberry juice on a few unfortunate passengers. Come to think of it, we overflew the Bermuda Triangle for part of the flight. Coincidence? :) -Dirt-

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:58:55 GMT, Chris Cavin <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> Hehe, you got your bags when you landed again? ;-) >> Great story. :) > > >Yup. Everything arrived more-or-less in one piece. Except the >flight attendants. We hit some pretty wicked turbulence during >the drink service that knocked down a few of the attendants and >got some cranberry juice on a few unfortunate passengers. Come >to think of it, we overflew the Bermuda Triangle for part of the >flight. Coincidence? :)

By design probably, hehe. Ever seen the movie 'Final Destination'? ;-) There are nice documentaries on the Discovery channel about frozen CO2 banks in the ocean, which, when surfacing, generate heaps of gases and can even have a plane flying over such a phenomenon explode in mid-air. Interesting stuff. Ofcourse the Bermuda Polyg... eh Triangle region seems to have lots of those banks in its ocean floor. All of this ofcourse since you made it. :) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

actually its not CO2 its called "Methane Hydrate" I believe,, stuff is flameable as well, crazy substance to say the least.. On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:13:31 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) wrote:

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>On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:58:55 GMT, Chris Cavin ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>> Hehe, you got your bags when you landed again? ;-) >>> Great story. :) >> >> >>Yup. Everything arrived more-or-less in one piece. Except the >>flight attendants. We hit some pretty wicked turbulence during >>the drink service that knocked down a few of the attendants and >>got some cranberry juice on a few unfortunate passengers. Come >>to think of it, we overflew the Bermuda Triangle for part of the >>flight. Coincidence? :) > >By design probably, hehe. >Ever seen the movie 'Final Destination'? ;-) > >There are nice documentaries on the Discovery channel about frozen CO2 >banks in the ocean, which, when surfacing, generate heaps of gases and >can even have a plane flying over such a phenomenon explode in >mid-air. Interesting stuff. Ofcourse the Bermuda Polyg... eh Triangle >region seems to have lots of those banks in its ocean floor. > >All of this ofcourse since you made it. :) > > >Ruud van Gaal >Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ >Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:29:47 GMT, (Rich#8) wrote: >actually its not CO2 its called "Methane Hydrate" I believe,, stuff is >flameable as well, crazy substance to say the least.. Ah, I already wondered what would be explodable about CO2. :) But indeed, methane, don't they use that in Cart? ;-) >On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:13:31 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) >wrote:... >>There are nice documentaries on the Discovery channel about frozen CO2 >>banks in the ocean, which, when surfacing, generate heaps of gases and >>can even have a plane flying over such a phenomenon explode in >>mid-air. Interesting stuff. Ofcourse the Bermuda Polyg... eh Triangle >>region seems to have lots of those banks in its ocean floor. Ruud van Gaal Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

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>>actually its not CO2 its called "Methane Hydrate" I believe,, stuff is >>flameable as well, crazy substance to say the least.. >> > > Ah, I already wondered what would be explodable about CO2. :) But > indeed, methane, don't they use that in Cart? ;-) > >

I think thats Methanol, crazy stuff, you cant see it burning. I have seen the guys suddenly starting to wave their arms out frantically during a pitstop and wondered what was going on. Scary stuff Ash

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> >>actually its not CO2 its called "Methane Hydrate" I believe,, stuff is > >>flameable as well, crazy substance to say the least.. > >> > > > > Ah, I already wondered what would be explodable about CO2. :) But > > indeed, methane, don't they use that in Cart? ;-) > > > > > > I think thats Methanol, crazy stuff, you cant see it burning. I have > seen the guys suddenly starting to wave their arms out frantically > during a pitstop and wondered what was going on. Scary stuff

The downside of using methanol apart from the low energy level is that is burn with no visible flame. The big plus is that it can be put out with water. I think it was after a big accident at indy in 67 they stopped using gas in the indycars to make it safer. Funny that they never did that in F1, but they don't race ovals in F1, and after the invention of the fuel cell it's not really a big problem. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

Only in the Men's Room (WC). "Ruud van Gaal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:29:47 GMT, (Rich#8) wrote: > > >actually its not CO2 its called "Methane Hydrate" I believe,, stuff is > >flameable as well, crazy substance to say the least.. > > Ah, I already wondered what would be explodable about CO2. :) But > indeed, methane, don't they use that in Cart? ;-) > > >On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:13:31 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) > >wrote: > ... > >>There are nice documentaries on the Discovery channel about frozen CO2 > >>banks in the ocean, which, when surfacing, generate heaps of gases and > >>can even have a plane flying over such a phenomenon explode in > >>mid-air. Interesting stuff. Ofcourse the Bermuda Polyg... eh Triangle > >>region seems to have lots of those banks in its ocean floor. > > Ruud van Gaal > Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ > Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:38:38 GMT, "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Only in the Men's Room (WC). LOL! Could be useful on the track too, to close small gaps. Eat beans before you race. ;-) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

i find it a little odd that there's no shadow from the plane. "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2lq1b$11hge9$[email hidden]...

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> Or this one. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543 > > > >

In article <a2lq1b$11hge9$[email hidden]>, "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> writes: >Or this one. > >http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=211543 > > I was just gonna ask "Is he REALLY that low?!?"...then I read the caption...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

bagels'n'brew <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Cx048.284$[email hidden]... > i find it a little odd that there's no shadow from the plane. > > Huh? Look at it again, i see a shadow. -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com - Hi, I'm a sig virus. - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the world.

please keep in mind that i'm not claiming it's a fake picture. i'm certainly no expert at validating fake pictures, and have no problem being put in my place. if i'm wrong, someone please correct me. first, take a look at the shadow of the people. their shadow's are RIGHT of them in perspective to the picture. next, look at the shadow of the planes wing. the shadow is to the left of the wing. doesn't this send up flags to anyone else? also, Will, i see the shadow of the guard rail, but not the plane. "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ju348.11698$[email hidden]...

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> > bagels'n'brew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Cx048.284$[email hidden]... > > i find it a little odd that there's no shadow from the plane. > > > > > > Huh? Look at it again, i see a shadow. > -- > - Will DeRivera > - http://www.numic.net > - http://www.luxt.com > - Hi, I'm a sig virus. > - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the world. > >

also, i'm talking about the pic in the second link. pretty obvious that the first one is authentic. second one looks a little cut-and-paste. "bagels'n'brew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FL648.497$[email hidden]... > please keep in mind that i'm not claiming it's a fake picture. i'm > certainly no expert at validating fake pictures, and have no problem being > put in my place. if i'm wrong, someone please correct me. > > first, take a look at the shadow of the people. their shadow's are RIGHTof

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> them in perspective to the picture. > > next, look at the shadow of the planes wing. the shadow is to the left of > the wing. > > doesn't this send up flags to anyone else? > > also, Will, i see the shadow of the guard rail, but not the plane. > > > "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ju348.11698$[email hidden]... > > > > bagels'n'brew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Cx048.284$[email hidden]... > > > i find it a little odd that there's no shadow from the plane. > > > > > > > > > > Huh? Look at it again, i see a shadow. > > -- > > - Will DeRivera > > - http://www.numic.net > > - http://www.luxt.com > > - Hi, I'm a sig virus. > > - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the world. > > > > > >

Well I showed the pics to my son and he said he saw those shots on the Television..not stills but liveaction film of the jets landing there.... dave henrie "bagels'n'brew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6P648.499$[email hidden]... > also, i'm talking about the pic in the second link. pretty obvious thatthe > first one is authentic. second one looks a little cut-and-paste. > > "bagels'n'brew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FL648.497$[email hidden]... > > please keep in mind that i'm not claiming it's a fake picture. i'm > > certainly no expert at validating fake pictures, and have no problembeing > > put in my place. if i'm wrong, someone please correct me. > > > > first, take a look at the shadow of the people. their shadow's areRIGHT > of > > them in perspective to the picture. > > > > next, look at the shadow of the planes wing. the shadow is to the leftof

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> > the wing. > > > > doesn't this send up flags to anyone else? > > > > also, Will, i see the shadow of the guard rail, but not the plane. > > > > > > "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ju348.11698$[email hidden]... > > > > > > bagels'n'brew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Cx048.284$[email hidden]... > > > > i find it a little odd that there's no shadow from the plane. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huh? Look at it again, i see a shadow. > > > -- > > > - Will DeRivera > > > - http://www.numic.net > > > - http://www.luxt.com > > > - Hi, I'm a sig virus. > > > - Please add me to the end of your sig and help me take over the

world. > > > > > > > > > > > >

"bagels'n'brew" <[email hidden]> writes: > first, take a look at the shadow of the people. their shadow's are RIGHT of > them in perspective to the picture. yeah. > next, look at the shadow of the planes wing. the shadow is to the left of > the wing. no it isn't. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

In article <Xy748.3079$tn2.13161@rwcrnsc53>, [email hidden] says... > Well I showed the pics to my son and he said he saw those shots on the > Television..not stills but liveaction film of the jets landing there.... > dave henrie Those pictures are not faked. The planes really do land that low there. I have seen pieces on TV about it as well. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-* Todd Walker http://twalker.d2g.com Canon Pro90IS: http://twalker.d2g.com/pro90/index.htm Pbase galleries: http://www.pbase.com/twalker294 *-*-*-*-*-*-*

Yup.... I flew to St. Maarten in 1988. I don't recall it being on a 747 though... From what I recall, there were only two or three flights in per day at that time, so this was not a steady thing. I think we landed at about 1:00pm. There are other beaches on St. Maarten besides that one that are a lot less "hazardous". On that same trip, I recall that there's a small airport on St.Barts whose runway is situated similarly. In fact, on that beach, there are warning signs for beachstrollers to look inland for approaching planes taking off as they're strolling down the beach! That was my only trip to the Caribbean, so I can't compare it with other islands, but I enjoyed St. Maarten. Bert Rich#8 wrote: > craziest thing I've ever seen.. > > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599

Yup.... I flew to St. Maarten in 1988. I don't recall it being on a 747 though... From what I recall, there were only two or three flights in per day at that time, so this was not a steady thing. I think we landed at about 1:00pm. There are other beaches on St. Maarten besides that one that are a lot less "hazardous". On that same trip, I recall that there's a small airport on St.Barts whose runway is situated similarly. In fact, on that beach, there are warning signs for beachstrollers to look inland for approaching planes taking off as they're strolling down the beach! That was my only trip to the Caribbean, so I can't compare it with other islands, but I enjoyed St. Maarten. Bert > craziest thing I've ever seen.. > http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=027599