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F1 2001 wheel dead zone

8 posts by 4 people · 27 Jan 2002 14:11 UTC - 29 Jan 2002 14:15 UTC

Ice D 27 Jan 2002 14:11 UTC#139623
How can I adjust the wheel settings (MOMO) in F1 2001, so the wheel has a shorter 'travel' from left to right? The 270 degrees are a bit too much for me, in this game anyway, so I'd like to trim something of the left and right side. But on the dead zone menu for the wheel axis, there don't seem to be any left/right-trimming sliders. You can only adjust the dead zone in the middle, unless I'm overlooking something? I've seen this feature in most other driving games. Or is there another kind of setting that I need to adjust, like steering lock, or differential lock (what is that anyway?), or wheel sensitivity maybe? It feels ok overall, but in some really tight curves I wish I wouldn't have to turn the wheel so far to achieve full left or right. Or it's like I'd expect the car to make tighter turns, when I'm practically steering all the way to the right or left. It's hard to explain... Ice D
Good luck. It is so difficult to get a wheel set-up and adjusted properly in this title without any special requests. By the way, if you don't like the larger travel of the wheel, the MOMO probably wasn't a good choice. Marc. "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0UT48.95$[email hidden]... > How can I adjust the wheel settings (MOMO) in F1 2001, so the wheel has a > shorter 'travel' from left to right? The 270 degrees are a bit too muchfor > me, in this game anyway, so I'd like to trim something of the left andright > side. But on the dead zone menu for the wheel axis, there don't seem to be > any left/right-trimming sliders. You can only adjust the dead zone in the > middle, unless I'm overlooking something? I've seen this feature in most > other driving games. Or is there another kind of setting that I need to > adjust, like steering lock, or differential lock (what is that anyway?),or > wheel sensitivity maybe? > > It feels ok overall, but in some really tight curves I wish I wouldn'thave > to turn the wheel so far to achieve full left or right. Or it's like I'd > expect the car to make tighter turns, when I'm practically steering allthe > way to the right or left. It's hard to explain... > > Ice D > > >
It's not that I don't like the 270 degrees at all, but I seem to be struggling with it in F1 2001. It just doesn't feel right in a F1 car, to have to turn you wheel so far. It's like your arms get in each other's way or something. But that's probably just me... Ice D "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KJU48.1037$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Good luck. It is so difficult to get a wheel set-up and adjusted properly > in this title without any special requests. > > By the way, if you don't like the larger travel of the wheel, the MOMO > probably wasn't a good choice. > > Marc. > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0UT48.95$[email hidden]... > > How can I adjust the wheel settings (MOMO) in F1 2001, so the wheel has
a > > shorter 'travel' from left to right? The 270 degrees are a bit too much > for > > me, in this game anyway, so I'd like to trim something of the left and > right > > side. But on the dead zone menu for the wheel axis, there don't seem tobe > > any left/right-trimming sliders. You can only adjust the dead zone inthe
Quoted text (19 lines)> > middle, unless I'm overlooking something? I've seen this feature in most > > other driving games. Or is there another kind of setting that I need to > > adjust, like steering lock, or differential lock (what is that anyway?), > or > > wheel sensitivity maybe? > > > > It feels ok overall, but in some really tight curves I wish I wouldn't > have > > to turn the wheel so far to achieve full left or right. Or it's like I'd > > expect the car to make tighter turns, when I'm practically steering all > the > > way to the right or left. It's hard to explain... > > > > Ice D > > > > > > > >
Haqsau 27 Jan 2002 19:20 UTC↳ reply to Ice D#139522
You can either increase the X axis sensitivity in the controller menu, or increase the steering lock angle in the vehicle setup screens. But since you said that it is only on tight curves that you have a problem, what you might want to do is use more speed sensitivity. Speed sensitivity reduces the steering sensitivity at high speeds, the higher you have it set, the more it reduces it. I think the default was 50%. Try increasing it until the steering feels too slow at high speeds, and then increasing the x axis sensitivity until the high speed steering feels right again. You should then find that it takes much less steering angle to get through the tighter turns. Another possibility though is that you just have too much understeer in your vehicle setup. Too much understeer in the suspension will cause you to need to use an excessive amount of steering angle to get through a turn at the limit. This will appear primarily at low speeds, since at high speeds the handling is more a function of the wing settings. The default setups have pretty heavy understeer in order to make it easier to drive. You might want to try increasing the size of the rear anti-roll bar to see if that helps. If you then find it too loose at high speeds, you can either increase the rear wing angle or decrease the front wing angle to make up for it. "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0UT48.95$[email hidden]... > How can I adjust the wheel settings (MOMO) in F1 2001, so the wheelhas a > shorter 'travel' from left to right? The 270 degrees are a bit toomuch for > me, in this game anyway, so I'd like to trim something of the left andright > side. But on the dead zone menu for the wheel axis, there don't seemto be > any left/right-trimming sliders. You can only adjust the dead zone inthe > middle, unless I'm overlooking something? I've seen this feature inmost > other driving games. Or is there another kind of setting that I needto > adjust, like steering lock, or differential lock (what is thatanyway?), or > wheel sensitivity maybe? > > It feels ok overall, but in some really tight curves I wish I wouldn'thave > to turn the wheel so far to achieve full left or right. Or it's likeI'd > expect the car to make tighter turns, when I'm practically steeringall the > way to the right or left. It's hard to explain... > > Ice D > > >
Craig 27 Jan 2002 21:23 UTC↳ reply to Ice D#139534
I'm pretty certain that real F1 cars have 360 degrees of wheel rotation. I've seen in car shots of drivers arms crossed over when on full lock. I've allways found the 180 degrees of the LWFF wheel hard to control, I'd have thought the extra would make control more precise Craig "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QdY48.167$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> It's not that I don't like the 270 degrees at all, but I seem to be > struggling with it in F1 2001. It just doesn't feel right in a F1 car, to > have to turn you wheel so far. It's like your arms get in each other's way > or something. But that's probably just me... > > Ice D > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KJU48.1037$[email hidden]... > > Good luck. It is so difficult to get a wheel set-up and adjusted
properly
Quoted text (10 lines)> > in this title without any special requests. > > > > By the way, if you don't like the larger travel of the wheel, the MOMO > > probably wasn't a good choice. > > > > Marc. > > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:0UT48.95$[email hidden]... > > > How can I adjust the wheel settings (MOMO) in F1 2001, so the wheel
has > a > > > shorter 'travel' from left to right? The 270 degrees are a bit toomuch > > for > > > me, in this game anyway, so I'd like to trim something of the left and > > right > > > side. But on the dead zone menu for the wheel axis, there don't seemto > be > > > any left/right-trimming sliders. You can only adjust the dead zone in > the > > > middle, unless I'm overlooking something? I've seen this feature inmost > > > other driving games. Or is there another kind of setting that I needto > > > adjust, like steering lock, or differential lock (what is thatanyway?), > > or > > > wheel sensitivity maybe? > > > > > > It feels ok overall, but in some really tight curves I wish I wouldn't > > have > > > to turn the wheel so far to achieve full left or right. Or it's likeI'd > > > expect the car to make tighter turns, when I'm practically steeringall
Quoted text (11 lines)> > the > > > way to the right or left. It's hard to explain... > > > > > > Ice D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Ice D 28 Jan 2002 19:21 UTC↳ reply to Haqsau#139416
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> You can either increase the X axis sensitivity in the controller menu, > or increase the steering lock angle in the vehicle setup screens. But > since you said that it is only on tight curves that you have a problem, > what you might want to do is use more speed sensitivity. Speed > sensitivity reduces the steering sensitivity at high speeds, the higher > you have it set, the more it reduces it. I think the default was 50%. > Try increasing it until the steering feels too slow at high speeds, and > then increasing the x axis sensitivity until the high speed steering > feels right again. You should then find that it takes much less > steering angle to get through the tighter turns.
Hey, this makes a lot of sense! I had something like this vaguely in my mind, but now I have a clear picture.
Quoted text (10 lines)> Another possibility though is that you just have too much understeer in > your vehicle setup. Too much understeer in the suspension will cause > you to need to use an excessive amount of steering angle to get through > a turn at the limit. This will appear primarily at low speeds, since at > high speeds the handling is more a function of the wing settings. The > default setups have pretty heavy understeer in order to make it easier > to drive. You might want to try increasing the size of the rear > anti-roll bar to see if that helps. If you then find it too loose at > high speeds, you can either increase the rear wing angle or decrease the > front wing angle to make up for it.
I tend to stay away from these kind of settings, out of fear (and probably laziness). I always feel like you when change one thing, you have to change a whole bunch of other stuff as well, to compensate. But maybe that's just cause most of the time I don't know what the hell I'm doing :) Anyway, your post makes a lot of sense, I will be experimenting with it. Cheers, Ice D
Haqsau 28 Jan 2002 23:55 UTC↳ reply to Ice D#139215
If you don't want to try your own setups, try Ian Bell's, at www.simbin.com. Just had to see if I could sneak that in before Ian did. ;o) "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Gwh58.408$[email hidden]... > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > You can either increase the X axis sensitivity in the controllermenu, > > or increase the steering lock angle in the vehicle setup screens.But > > since you said that it is only on tight curves that you have aproblem, > > what you might want to do is use more speed sensitivity. Speed > > sensitivity reduces the steering sensitivity at high speeds, thehigher > > you have it set, the more it reduces it. I think the default was50%. > > Try increasing it until the steering feels too slow at high speeds,and > > then increasing the x axis sensitivity until the high speed steering > > feels right again. You should then find that it takes much less > > steering angle to get through the tighter turns. > > Hey, this makes a lot of sense! I had something like this vaguely inmy > mind, but now I have a clear picture. > > > > Another possibility though is that you just have too much understeerin > > your vehicle setup. Too much understeer in the suspension willcause > > you to need to use an excessive amount of steering angle to getthrough > > a turn at the limit. This will appear primarily at low speeds,since at > > high speeds the handling is more a function of the wing settings.The > > default setups have pretty heavy understeer in order to make iteasier > > to drive. You might want to try increasing the size of the rear > > anti-roll bar to see if that helps. If you then find it too looseat > > high speeds, you can either increase the rear wing angle or decreasethe > > front wing angle to make up for it. > > I tend to stay away from these kind of settings, out of fear (andprobably > laziness). I always feel like you when change one thing, you have tochange > a whole bunch of other stuff as well, to compensate. But maybe that'sjust > cause most of the time I don't know what the hell I'm doing :) Anyway,your
Quoted text (9 lines)> post makes a lot of sense, I will be experimenting with it. > > Cheers, > > Ice D > > > >
Ice D 29 Jan 2002 14:15 UTC↳ reply to Haqsau#139375
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a34o9n$15ta8d$[email hidden]... > If you don't want to try your own setups, try Ian Bell's, at > www.simbin.com. > > Just had to see if I could sneak that in before Ian did. ;o) Thanks, I'll try some of the Williams settings. Ice D

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