RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

hi anyone tried this game ? it is the latest of the Rally championship series / Europress /Magnetics. Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the road ) but sounds are a bit off. Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so features like saving replay etc are gone. so far no much has been publicised about the game and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com has not been updated for some time.

The game seems okay though it cannot be compared to Rally Trophy. One thing that immediately turned my head the other way was the fact that Rally Extreme did not have a cockpit mode. For me, that ruins it, keeping me from hardly playing the game at all. Alanb "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> hi > > anyone tried this game ? > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > Europress /Magnetics. > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the > road ) > but sounds are a bit off. > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > features > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > has not been updated for some time. > > > >

Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer. David G Fisher "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> hi > > anyone tried this game ? > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > Europress /Magnetics. > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the > road ) > but sounds are a bit off. > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > features > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > has not been updated for some time. > > > >

David, You keep saying that. Has MF done a rally-based follow-up to RC? --Steve "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xBR58.12867$[email hidden]...

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> Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer. > > David G Fisher > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hi > > > > anyone tried this game ? > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > > Europress /Magnetics. > > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the > > road ) > > but sounds are a bit off. > > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > > features > > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > > has not been updated for some time. > > > > > > > > > >

The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sent to me to review on SGN but since it's a few months old, not very good at all, and not much had been said about it, we decided not to do the review. I was wondering if I should anyway just as a warning. It tried 3 computers before I could even get it to run. With a V5500 or V3000 the graphics were completely washed out (almost white) once you got past the hood. (yes, there are 2 cockpit views, center and driver) Finally, with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past the warning "no agp acceleration detected". The graphics are old looking except for the shine on the cars, but even worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates. Once you start a run, you can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4' and going back to your desktop. The force feedback is terrible and canned like all Spring effects. It's either on or off. And, if you can believe this, there are no steering adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was so jumpy that it was hard to steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel. Still, you expect some kind of adjustments to be available. The sounds were about the only bright spot. Just better than average. The navigator was hard to understand. After one terrible crash, I looked over at him (and saw in the replay) and his head was just hanging down. When I started driving again, his head was still hanging, but bobbing up and down and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I killed him. It's a terrible game that's full of potential. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > hi > > anyone tried this game ? > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > Europress /Magnetics. > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the > road ) > but sounds are a bit off. > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > features > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > has not been updated for some time. > > > >

hi deroy when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair Because having played "Q network Rally championship" ( bloody long title ) and RC2000, I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that I wanted over RC2000. Let me now do a brief review and perhaps you might re-consider: Firstly, no the game is NOT BY MAGNETIC FIELDS. it is a first simulation by WARTHOG or some british pig farmer etc. Published by Actualise. However it says " this is the 6th in the Rally Championship series ".... that misled me to assume Magnetic Fields involvement. PHYSICS --------------------------- ONe of the greatest achievement is the physic of traction GRIPPING, pulling the car under power, it reaaally feels like the REAL THING ! The car slides and then achieve traction and suddenly tucks in under power, much like what we see on TV coverage of the REAL THING. ( I think this is a first for any rally game ) however the car has only damage to the front and rear, no side damage or dents (??). Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down in-tune to the car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so real ) BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things happen. so dont try the cliff, valley, rivers. BERMUDA triangles abound there. Road is wider enough for all your handbrake turn antics , you can really go wild ( though not faster ). FEATURES --------------------------------- REPLAYS could not be saved now, maybe a patch ??? soon?? REPLAY ANGLES tend to have a lot of overhead view which does not show-off the car EXCELLENT PHYSICS. but when it does work well, it really show off the game. No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game. I had no problem but forsee some players might find the controller too twichy. SEMI-AUTOMATIC gearbox was available in the RC 2000 game. but this game allow only full auto or manual. it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as a default. ( user removable ) 24 tracks, 20 cars, horrendous menu music, ( why does racing games need such horrendous music ? ) SOUNDS ------------------------------------ SOUND LEVELS between track side view and in car view is TOO GREAT. One moment there is eerie silence while the car is coming over the hill and next the get "neighbours-screaming" level for the in-car view. In car sounds are very detailed ( sfx setting highest ). GRAPHIC ------------------------- A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000. but it default to a high setting , so you need FRAPS and gradually set them down to a level of comfort. I got 19 fps on bonnet view. Replays at 36 fps. 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb card ) It has a "driver-head" view in which the view sort of move like a natural driver would ie look into the bend, not just straight ahead. In car detail excellent, wires showing, gadget galore ( non functional ). World around has great details , ( Need for speed style ) "...For any product support queries please feel free to contact Actualize via the Rally Championship Xtreme website." where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone numbers !! hello, this is earth year 2002. "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TWT58.16652$[email hidden]... > The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sent tome to review on SGN but > since it's a few months old, not very good at all,and not much had been > said about it, we decided not to do the review. I waswondering if I should > anyway just as a warning. > It tried 3 computers before I could even get it torun. With a V5500 or > V3000 the graphics were completely washed out (almostwhite) once you got > past the hood. (yes, there are 2 cockpit views,center and driver) Finally, > with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past the warning"no agp acceleration > detected". > The graphics are old looking except for the shine onthe cars, but even > worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates.Once you start a run, you > can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4' and goingback to your desktop. > The force feedback is terrible and canned like allSpring effects. It's > either on or off. And, if you can believe this, thereare no steering > adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was so jumpythat it was hard to > steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel. Still,you expect some kind of > adjustments to be available. > The sounds were about the only bright spot. Justbetter than average. The > navigator was hard to understand. After one terriblecrash, I looked over at > him (and saw in the replay) and his head was justhanging down. When I > started driving again, his head was still hanging,but bobbing up and down > and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think Ikilled him.

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> It's a terrible game that's full of potential. > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hi > > > > anyone tried this game ? > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > > Europress /Magnetics. > > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to

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> > road ) > > but sounds are a bit off. > > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > > features > > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > > has not been updated for some time. > > > > > > > > > >

MF doesn't exist anymore. I don't know what happened. David G Fisher "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eoT58.6435$[email hidden]...

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> David, > > You keep saying that. Has MF done a rally-based follow-up to RC? > > --Steve > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xBR58.12867$[email hidden]... > > Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > hi > > > > > > anyone tried this game ? > > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > > > Europress /Magnetics. > > > > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the > > > road ) > > > but sounds are a bit off. > > > > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > > > features > > > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > > > > > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > > > has not been updated for some time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thx fir the gen, David. I really liked their work. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Qx268.13982$[email hidden]...

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> MF doesn't exist anymore. I don't know what happened. > > David G Fisher > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:eoT58.6435$[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > You keep saying that. Has MF done a rally-based follow-up to RC? > > > > --Steve > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:xBR58.12867$[email hidden]... > > > Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > hi > > > > > > > > anyone tried this game ? > > > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > > > > Europress /Magnetics. > > > > > > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the > > > > road ) > > > > but sounds are a bit off. > > > > > > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > > > > features > > > > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > > > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > > > > has not been updated for some time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Most reports I have read said simply that this was a crap arcade title, not the next in the line after Mobil 1 RC2000, but more like a side-step like International Rally Championship was (between Network Q and RC2000). IRC had improved graphics, etc., over Network Q, but overall was crap. Even the physics in RC2000 are barely passable, but the stages and graphics are well done, so it provides some pleasure that way. Are you saying the physics in this are better than CMR2 and RC2000 and Rally Masters? And the graphics are better? Is there a demo somewhere that reflects this? Marc "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> hi deroy > > > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair > Because having played "Q network Rally championship" > ( bloody long title ) > and RC2000, > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that I > wanted over RC2000. > > > Let me now do a brief review and perhaps you might > re-consider: > > > Firstly, no the game is NOT BY MAGNETIC FIELDS. > it is a first simulation by WARTHOG or some british > pig farmer etc. > Published by Actualise. > > However it says " this is the 6th in the Rally > Championship series ".... > that misled me to assume Magnetic Fields involvement. > > > > > PHYSICS > --------------------------- > ONe of the greatest achievement is the physic of > traction GRIPPING, > pulling the car under power, it reaaally feels like the > REAL THING ! > The car slides and then achieve traction and suddenly > tucks in under power, > much like what we see on TV coverage of the REAL THING. > ( I think this is a first for any rally game ) > > however the car has only damage to the front and rear, > no side damage > or dents (??). > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down > in-tune to the > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so real ) > > > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things > happen. > so dont try the cliff, valley, rivers. > BERMUDA triangles abound there. > > Road is wider enough for all your handbrake turn > antics , you can really go wild ( though not faster ). > > > > FEATURES > --------------------------------- > REPLAYS could not be saved now, maybe a patch ??? > soon?? > REPLAY ANGLES tend to have a lot of overhead view > which does not show-off the car EXCELLENT PHYSICS. > but when it does work well, it really show off the > game. > > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game. > I had no problem but forsee some players might find the > controller > too twichy. > > SEMI-AUTOMATIC gearbox was available in the RC 2000 > game. > but this game allow only full auto or manual. > > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as a default. > ( user removable ) > > > 24 tracks, 20 cars, horrendous menu music, > ( why does racing games need such horrendous music ? ) > > > SOUNDS > ------------------------------------ > SOUND LEVELS between track side view and in car view > is TOO GREAT. > One moment there is eerie silence while the car is > coming over > the hill and next the get "neighbours-screaming" level > for the in-car view. > > In car sounds are very detailed ( sfx setting > highest ). > > > > GRAPHIC > ------------------------- > A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000. > but it default to a high setting , so you need FRAPS > and gradually set them down to a level of comfort. > I got 19 fps on bonnet view. > Replays at 36 fps. > > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb card ) > > It has a "driver-head" view in which the view sort of > move > like a natural driver would ie look into the bend, not > just straight ahead. > > In car detail excellent, wires showing, gadget galore > ( non functional ). > World around has great details , ( Need for speed > style ) > > > > > "...For any product support queries please feel free to > contact Actualize via > the Rally Championship Xtreme website." > > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone > numbers !! > hello, this is earth year 2002. > > > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:TWT58.16652$[email hidden]... > > The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sent to > me to review on SGN but > > since it's a few months old, not very good at all, > and not much had been > > said about it, we decided not to do the review. I was > wondering if I should > > anyway just as a warning. > > It tried 3 computers before I could even get it to > run. With a V5500 or > > V3000 the graphics were completely washed out (almost > white) once you got > > past the hood. (yes, there are 2 cockpit views, > center and driver) Finally, > > with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past the warning > "no agp acceleration > > detected". > > The graphics are old looking except for the shine on > the cars, but even > > worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates. > Once you start a run, you > > can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4' and going > back to your desktop. > > The force feedback is terrible and canned like all > Spring effects. It's > > either on or off. And, if you can believe this, there > are no steering > > adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was so jumpy > that it was hard to > > steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel. Still, > you expect some kind of > > adjustments to be available. > > The sounds were about the only bright spot. Just > better than average. The > > navigator was hard to understand. After one terrible > crash, I looked over at > > him (and saw in the replay) and his head was just > hanging down. When I > > started driving again, his head was still hanging, > but bobbing up and down > > and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I > killed him. > > It's a terrible game that's full of potential. > > > > > > -- > > Slot > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > www.slottweak.com > > > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > hi > > > > > > anyone tried this game ? > > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series / > > > Europress /Magnetics. > > > > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to > the > > > road ) > > > but sounds are a bit off. > > > > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so > > > features > > > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > > > > > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game > > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > > > has not been updated for some time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

hi Marc PHYSICS --------------------- RC2000 out of the box has some flaws BUT IT DID ALLOW users to adjust parameters THAT MADE the differences and I was able to improve on it like: previously you could use the grass to slow down the car, put a wheel off and you could take the corner without braking. I adjusted that to slippery and the car mishandled on grass and glides over them. RCX ( Xtreme ) do not come with that "grass-assisted-brake" and you slide and find grips in-between the gaps on the road. ( this you really need to see in the replay, very much like the TV coverage, car slips , slides and then grips ) the car "cataputs" when it finds the grip ( WRX, EVO 7 ) TO ME, this is what I was looking for, the CORRUPTED AND OVERWHELMING POWER of turbo rally cars. OVERALL , RC and RCX physics are quite comparable. Running bonnet to bonnet view of these 2 games I did not feel like it is 2 different games. ( again only when within the road area , bear this in mind for all things that I mentioned ) Another thing that I really enjoyed with RCX is that you have plenty of area to slide, full blown COUNTERSTEER slide , using sideway slide into the corner are the stuff of WorldRallyChampionship. ( in fairness, RC2000 was british rally with narrow roads ) I was looking for CM2 but found this RCX instead So I can't comment of CM2. RCX has its problems but while you keep the car near the road / path it is fun and very enjoyable without being arcade. Graphics are better and less grainy than RC2000. I ran 800 x 600 x 16bit on both on my TNT / cel450 . ave 19~26fps with tuned down graphics. of the 2, RCX has better sense of speed, something they did with the peripheral vision. MY STYLE -------------------------- maybe I should also mention that I DO NOT DRIVE FLAT OUT for the entire course and I brake heavily into corners. I do my best to behave like a real life driver. I use joystick and plays GPL, N4, needforporsche, F12000, SBK2001 and love Screamer2. "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Hoe68.30685$[email hidden]... > Most reports I have read said simply that this was acrap arcade title, not > the next in the line after Mobil 1 RC2000, but morelike a side-step like > International Rally Championship was (between NetworkQ and RC2000). IRC > had improved graphics, etc., over Network Q, butoverall was crap. > > Even the physics in RC2000 are barely passable, butthe stages and graphics > are well done, so it provides some pleasure that way. > > Are you saying the physics in this are better thanCMR2 and RC2000 and Rally > Masters? And the graphics are better? Is there ademo somewhere that

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> reflects this? > > Marc > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hi deroy > > > > > > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair > > Because having played "Q network Rally

championship" > > ( bloody long title ) > > and RC2000, > > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features thatI

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> > wanted over RC2000. > > > > > > Let me now do a brief review and perhaps you might > > re-consider: > > > > > > Firstly, no the game is NOT BY MAGNETIC FIELDS. > > it is a first simulation by WARTHOG or some

british > > pig farmer etc. > > Published by Actualise. > > > > However it says " this is the 6th in the Rally > > Championship series ".... > > that misled me to assume Magnetic Fieldsinvolvement.

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> > > > > > > > > > PHYSICS > > --------------------------- > > ONe of the greatest achievement is the physic of > > traction GRIPPING, > > pulling the car under power, it reaaally feels like

the > > REAL THING ! > > The car slides and then achieve traction andsuddenly > > tucks in under power, > > much like what we see on TV coverage of the REALTHING. > > ( I think this is a first for any rally game ) > > > > however the car has only damage to the front andrear, > > no side damage > > or dents (??). > > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down > > in-tune to the > > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks soreal )

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> > > > > > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things > > happen. > > so dont try the cliff, valley, rivers. > > BERMUDA triangles abound there. > > > > Road is wider enough for all your handbrake turn > > antics , you can really go wild ( though not

faster ).

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> > > > > > > > FEATURES > > --------------------------------- > > REPLAYS could not be saved now, maybe a patch ??? > > soon?? > > REPLAY ANGLES tend to have a lot of overhead view > > which does not show-off the car EXCELLENT PHYSICS. > > but when it does work well, it really show off the > > game. > > > > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game. > > I had no problem but forsee some players might find

the

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> > controller > > too twichy. > > > > SEMI-AUTOMATIC gearbox was available in the RC 2000 > > game. > > but this game allow only full auto or manual. > > > > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as a default. > > ( user removable ) > > > > > > 24 tracks, 20 cars, horrendous menu music, > > ( why does racing games need such horrendous music

? ) > > > > > > SOUNDS > > ------------------------------------ > > SOUND LEVELS between track side view and in carview > > is TOO GREAT. > > One moment there is eerie silence while the car is > > coming over > > the hill and next the get "neighbours-screaming"level

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> > for the in-car view. > > > > In car sounds are very detailed ( sfx setting > > highest ). > > > > > > > > GRAPHIC > > ------------------------- > > A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000. > > but it default to a high setting , so you need

FRAPS > > and gradually set them down to a level of comfort. > > I got 19 fps on bonnet view. > > Replays at 36 fps. > > > > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mbcard ) > > > > It has a "driver-head" view in which the view sortof > > move > > like a natural driver would ie look into the bend,not > > just straight ahead. > > > > In car detail excellent, wires showing, gadgetgalore

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> > ( non functional ). > > World around has great details , ( Need for speed > > style ) > > > > > > > > > > "...For any product support queries please feel

free to

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> > contact Actualize via > > the Rally Championship Xtreme website." > > > > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone > > numbers !! > > hello, this is earth year 2002. > > > > > > > > > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >

news:TWT58.16652$[email hidden]... > > > The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sentto > > me to review on SGN but > > > since it's a few months old, not very good atall, > > and not much had been > > > said about it, we decided not to do the review. Iwas > > wondering if I should > > > anyway just as a warning. > > > It tried 3 computers before I could even get itto > > run. With a V5500 or > > > V3000 the graphics were completely washed out(almost > > white) once you got > > > past the hood. (yes, there are 2 cockpit views, > > center and driver) Finally, > > > with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past thewarning > > "no agp acceleration > > > detected". > > > The graphics are old looking except for the shineon > > the cars, but even > > > worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates. > > Once you start a run, you > > > can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4' andgoing > > back to your desktop. > > > The force feedback is terrible and canned likeall > > Spring effects. It's > > > either on or off. And, if you can believe this,there > > are no steering > > > adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was sojumpy > > that it was hard to > > > steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel.Still, > > you expect some kind of > > > adjustments to be available. > > > The sounds were about the only bright spot. Just > > better than average. The > > > navigator was hard to understand. After oneterrible > > crash, I looked over at > > > him (and saw in the replay) and his head was just > > hanging down. When I > > > started driving again, his head was stillhanging,

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> > but bobbing up and down > > > and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I > > killed him. > > > It's a terrible game that's full of potential. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Slot > > > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > hi > > > > > > > > anyone tried this game ? > > > > it is the latest of the Rally championship

series / > > > > Europress /Magnetics. > > > > > > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keepto > > the > > > > road ) > > > > but sounds are a bit off. > > > > > > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 butso > > > > features > > > > like saving replay etc are gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > so far no much has been publicised about thegame

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> > > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com > > > > has not been updated for some time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

John, please read a little humor and a big grin in this. > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair > Because having played "Q network Rally championship" > ( bloody long title ) > and RC2000, > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that I > wanted over RC2000. Ah, shoot. I thought you almost fell out of your chair because of what I said about killing the navigator. > PHYSICS Well, I guess all games have physics, but I certainly wouldn't compare this to CMR2 > however the car has only damage to the front and rear, > no side damage > or dents (??). > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down > in-tune to the > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so real ) The windows break, if that can be considered side damage. Yes, the hanging bumper is a nice effect, but pound it as hard and often as you can and it never comes off. I gotta get one of these cars for my wife! She could use it when she's not flying around on her broom. > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things > happen. There is one short cut you can take that brings you to a tilted flat-bed trailer. Jump it and you land perfectly on the track without missing any check points. My 7 yr. old boy found it after playing the game for 15 minutes. Of course, he's only 7, but he likes the game even though it doesn't steer well with his wheel and the graphics are all washed out on his computer. > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game. > I had no problem but forsee some players might find the > controller too twichy. In fact, there are no in-game controller adjustments at all. This is just unforgivable. It works with your joystick because joysticks are non-linear. If you race using a wheel, expect the steering to be twitchy, or count yourself lucky. Also, pray the phone doens't ring during a run because there's no way to pause or stop during game play except 'Alt-F4', which gets you out of the game and back to your desktop. Again, simply unforgivable. What in the world were they think of by leaving out these things? Oh, no force feedback adjustments, either. Not that it matters much. Force feedback effects are no better than the rest of the game. > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as a default. > ( user removable ) The Ghost car was almost always way behind me, so it didn't matter much whether or not I left him on. I would have thought that, at least during my first 2 or 3 runs, the car could beat me. > GRAPHIC > ------------------------- > A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000. > (snipe) > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb card ) It looks like a joystick and old video card are the way to play this game ;) The graphics sure weren't great with my V5500 or Radeon 8500. > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone > numbers !! Ya, I was going to contact them about the loading problems and couldn't find an email address either. > hello, this is earth year 2002. That's exactly my point for the whole game. It was released in 2001 and I certainly expect more from any recent game. There's more I could have complained about. When I loaded it on my kids' computer, it only saw it as a music cd (which wouldn't play). Nothing's ever done that before. Our computers are networked, so I loaded it from my cdrw. It wouldn't load from my dvd-rom (even after washing it properly). I got the game from another SGN reviewer because it wouldn't load on his computer. It's not the condition of the cd as far as I know, it's just fussy. I could just go on and on and on........ (oh, I already have ;) I'm glad you enjoy the game, John. There's another title out called "Spirit of Speed, 1937" that you might want to try out. (J/K gents) -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com

HI here's point by point reply 1) yes most rally drivers kill their navigator after the 3rd corner for misreading it. So this is realistic. Dead navigator head bobs up and down with every hump. it is rather realistic bobbing , don't you think ? :=) 2) damaged bumper came off rather easily. NOW, I AM BEGINNING TO HAVE SOME QUESTION about your version of THE game ??? In fact, after reading your post I went back to check and found that FRONT WHEEL can come off too.......WOW so far only managed to get ONE OF THE FRONT wheel off. bonnet too, rear bumper, both front and rear lights. 3) THERE IS A WAY TO PAUSE the game and it is in the manual. ???? serious question here ??? option to continue, abort and quite the game. 4) a game that looks good on an old video card usually looks even better on a new video card, which is the reason for upgrading. Would you say ??? "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Tdz68.17234$[email hidden]... > John, please read a little humor and a big grin inthis. > > > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair > > Because having played "Q network Rallychampionship" > > ( bloody long title ) > > and RC2000, > > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features thatI > > wanted over RC2000. > > Ah, shoot. I thought you almost fell out of yourchair because of what I > said about killing the navigator. > > > PHYSICS > > Well, I guess all games have physics, but I certainlywouldn't compare this > to CMR2 > > > however the car has only damage to the front andrear, > > no side damage > > or dents (??). > > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down > > in-tune to the > > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks soreal ) > > The windows break, if that can be considered sidedamage. Yes, the hanging > bumper is a nice effect, but pound it as hard andoften as you can and it > never comes off. I gotta get one of these cars for mywife! She could use it > when she's not flying around on her broom. > > > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things > > happen. > > There is one short cut you can take that brings youto a tilted flat-bed > trailer. Jump it and you land perfectly on the trackwithout missing any > check points. My 7 yr. old boy found it after playingthe game for 15 > minutes. Of course, he's only 7, but he likes thegame even though it > doesn't steer well with his wheel and the graphicsare all washed out on his > computer. > > > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game. > > I had no problem but forsee some players might findthe > > controller too twichy. > > In fact, there are no in-game controller adjustmentsat all. This is just > unforgivable. It works with your joystick becausejoysticks are non-linear. > If you race using a wheel, expect the steering to betwitchy, or count > yourself lucky. Also, pray the phone doens't ringduring a run because > there's no way to pause or stop during game playexcept 'Alt-F4', which gets > you out of the game and back to your desktop. Again,simply unforgivable. > What in the world were they think of by leaving outthese things? Oh, no > force feedback adjustments, either. Not that itmatters much. Force feedback > effects are no better than the rest of the game. > > > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as a default. > > ( user removable ) > > The Ghost car was almost always way behind me, so itdidn't matter much > whether or not I left him on. I would have thoughtthat, at least during my

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> first 2 or 3 runs, the car could beat me. > > > GRAPHIC > > ------------------------- > > A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000. > > (snipe) > > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb

card ) > > It looks like a joystick and old video card are theway to play this game ;) > The graphics sure weren't great with my V5500 orRadeon 8500. > > > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone > > numbers !! > > Ya, I was going to contact them about the loadingproblems and couldn't find > an email address either. > > > hello, this is earth year 2002. > > That's exactly my point for the whole game. It wasreleased in 2001 and I > certainly expect more from any recent game. > > There's more I could have complained about. When Iloaded it on my kids' > computer, it only saw it as a music cd (whichwouldn't play). Nothing's ever > done that before. Our computers are networked, so Iloaded it from my cdrw. > It wouldn't load from my dvd-rom (even after washingit properly). I got the > game from another SGN reviewer because it wouldn'tload on his computer. > It's not the condition of the cd as far as I know,it's just fussy. > > I could just go on and on and on........ (oh, Ialready have ;) > > I'm glad you enjoy the game, John. There's anothertitle out called "Spirit

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> of Speed, 1937" that you might want to try out. > (J/K gents) > > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > >

Hey John, I found the pause/quit control. The 1st time I read the manual I just glanced at the Car Controls portion because it looked like, well, keyboard commands for the car control. You know, left arrow, right arrow.... I didn't expect to find the game controls in that section. No side damage. I thought the windows broke, but that was on Rally Trophy. I can make the bumper fall off, but not without the hood. So far, anyway, it's been all or nothing. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > HI > > > here's point by point reply > > 1) yes most rally drivers kill their navigator after > the 3rd corner > for misreading it. So this is realistic. > Dead navigator head bobs up and down with every hump. > it is rather realistic bobbing , don't you think ? > :=) > > > 2) damaged bumper came off rather easily. > NOW, I AM BEGINNING TO HAVE SOME QUESTION about your > version > of THE game ??? > > In fact, after reading your post I went back to check > and found > that FRONT WHEEL can come off too.......WOW > so far only managed to get ONE OF THE FRONT wheel off. > bonnet too, rear bumper, both front and rear lights. > > > 3) THERE IS A WAY TO PAUSE the game and it is in the > manual. > ???? serious question here ??? > option to continue, abort and quite the game. > > > > 4) a game that looks good on an old video card usually > looks even > better on a new video card, which is the reason for > upgrading. > Would you say ??? > > > > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Tdz68.17234$[email hidden]... > > John, please read a little humor and a big grin in > this. > > > > > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair > > > Because having played "Q network Rally > championship" > > > ( bloody long title ) > > > and RC2000, > > > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that > I > > > wanted over RC2000. > > > > Ah, shoot. I thought you almost fell out of your > chair because of what I > > said about killing the navigator. > > > > > PHYSICS > > > > Well, I guess all games have physics, but I certainly > wouldn't compare this > > to CMR2 > > > > > however the car has only damage to the front and > rear, > > > no side damage > > > or dents (??). > > > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down > > > in-tune to the > > > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so > real ) > > > > The windows break, if that can be considered side > damage. Yes, the hanging > > bumper is a nice effect, but pound it as hard and > often as you can and it > > never comes off. I gotta get one of these cars for my > wife! She could use it > > when she's not flying around on her broom. > > > > > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things > > > happen. > > > > There is one short cut you can take that brings you > to a tilted flat-bed > > trailer. Jump it and you land perfectly on the track > without missing any > > check points. My 7 yr. old boy found it after playing > the game for 15 > > minutes. Of course, he's only 7, but he likes the > game even though it > > doesn't steer well with his wheel and the graphics > are all washed out on his > > computer. > > > > > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game. > > > I had no problem but forsee some players might find > the > > > controller too twichy. > > > > In fact, there are no in-game controller adjustments > at all. This is just > > unforgivable. It works with your joystick because > joysticks are non-linear. > > If you race using a wheel, expect the steering to be > twitchy, or count > > yourself lucky. Also, pray the phone doens't ring > during a run because > > there's no way to pause or stop during game play > except 'Alt-F4', which gets > > you out of the game and back to your desktop. Again, > simply unforgivable. > > What in the world were they think of by leaving out > these things? Oh, no > > force feedback adjustments, either. Not that it > matters much. Force feedback > > effects are no better than the rest of the game. > > > > > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as a default. > > > ( user removable ) > > > > The Ghost car was almost always way behind me, so it > didn't matter much > > whether or not I left him on. I would have thought > that, at least during my > > first 2 or 3 runs, the car could beat me. > > > > > GRAPHIC > > > ------------------------- > > > A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000. > > > (snipe) > > > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb > card ) > > > > It looks like a joystick and old video card are the > way to play this game ;) > > The graphics sure weren't great with my V5500 or > Radeon 8500. > > > > > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone > > > numbers !! > > > > Ya, I was going to contact them about the loading > problems and couldn't find > > an email address either. > > > > > hello, this is earth year 2002. > > > > That's exactly my point for the whole game. It was > released in 2001 and I > > certainly expect more from any recent game. > > > > There's more I could have complained about. When I > loaded it on my kids' > > computer, it only saw it as a music cd (which > wouldn't play). Nothing's ever > > done that before. Our computers are networked, so I > loaded it from my cdrw. > > It wouldn't load from my dvd-rom (even after washing > it properly). I got the > > game from another SGN reviewer because it wouldn't > load on his computer. > > It's not the condition of the cd as far as I know, > it's just fussy. > > > > I could just go on and on and on........ (oh, I > already have ;) > > > > I'm glad you enjoy the game, John. There's another > title out called "Spirit > > of Speed, 1937" that you might want to try out. > > (J/K gents) > > > > > > > > -- > > Slot > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > > > >

great !! actually you should give the game a chance you were rather quick to judge it I found more things with the game each day IE: handbrake and quickly counter steer into a corner gets you through much better. only one front wheel get to be taken out I could not get the second wheel off. ice tyres are actually shown as such very skinny tyres !! Don't forget the GRAPHIC ADVANCE control. You get a whole lot of framerates adjusting that "central" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RFJ78.18289$[email hidden]... > Hey John, > I found the pause/quit control. The 1st time I readthe manual I just > glanced at the Car Controls portion because it lookedlike, well, keyboard > commands for the car control. You know, left arrow,right arrow.... I didn't > expect to find the game controls in that section. > No side damage. I thought the windows broke, but thatwas on Rally Trophy. I > can make the bumper fall off, but not without thehood. So far, anyway, it's

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> been all or nothing. > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > HI > > > > > > here's point by point reply > > > > 1) yes most rally drivers kill their navigator

after > > the 3rd corner > > for misreading it. So this is realistic. > > Dead navigator head bobs up and down with everyhump. > > it is rather realistic bobbing , don't you think? > > :=) > > > > > > 2) damaged bumper came off rather easily. > > NOW, I AM BEGINNING TO HAVE SOME QUESTION aboutyour > > version > > of THE game ??? > > > > In fact, after reading your post I went back tocheck > > and found > > that FRONT WHEEL can come off too.......WOW > > so far only managed to get ONE OF THE FRONT wheeloff. > > bonnet too, rear bumper, both front and rearlights. > > > > > > 3) THERE IS A WAY TO PAUSE the game and it is inthe

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> > manual. > > ???? serious question here ??? > > option to continue, abort and quite the game. > > > > > > > > 4) a game that looks good on an old video card

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> > looks even > > better on a new video card, which is the reason for > > upgrading. > > Would you say ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >

news:Tdz68.17234$[email hidden]... > > > John, please read a little humor and a big grinin > > this. > > > > > > > when I read your post, I almost fell off mychair > > > > Because having played "Q network Rally > > championship" > > > > ( bloody long title ) > > > > and RC2000, > > > > I enjoyed this game and found lots of featuresthat

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> > I > > > > wanted over RC2000. > > > > > > Ah, shoot. I thought you almost fell out of your > > chair because of what I > > > said about killing the navigator. > > > > > > > PHYSICS > > > > > > Well, I guess all games have physics, but I

certainly > > wouldn't compare this > > > to CMR2 > > > > > > > however the car has only damage to the frontand > > rear, > > > > no side damage > > > > or dents (??). > > > > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up,down

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> > > > in-tune to the > > > > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so > > real ) > > > > > > The windows break, if that can be considered side > > damage. Yes, the hanging > > > bumper is a nice effect, but pound it as hard and > > often as you can and it > > > never comes off. I gotta get one of these cars

for my > > wife! She could use it > > > when she's not flying around on her broom. > > > > > > > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weirdthings > > > > happen. > > > > > > There is one short cut you can take that bringsyou > > to a tilted flat-bed > > > trailer. Jump it and you land perfectly on thetrack > > without missing any > > > check points. My 7 yr. old boy found it afterplaying > > the game for 15 > > > minutes. Of course, he's only 7, but he likes the > > game even though it > > > doesn't steer well with his wheel and thegraphics > > are all washed out on his > > > computer. > > > > > > > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted ingame. > > > > I had no problem but forsee some players mightfind > > the > > > > controller too twichy. > > > > > > In fact, there are no in-game controlleradjustments > > at all. This is just > > > unforgivable. It works with your joystick because > > joysticks are non-linear. > > > If you race using a wheel, expect the steering tobe > > twitchy, or count > > > yourself lucky. Also, pray the phone doens't ring > > during a run because > > > there's no way to pause or stop during game play > > except 'Alt-F4', which gets > > > you out of the game and back to your desktop.Again, > > simply unforgivable. > > > What in the world were they think of by leavingout > > these things? Oh, no > > > force feedback adjustments, either. Not that it > > matters much. Force feedback > > > effects are no better than the rest of the game. > > > > > > > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING PACE-CAR as adefault. > > > > ( user removable ) > > > > > > The Ghost car was almost always way behind me, soit > > didn't matter much > > > whether or not I left him on. I would havethought > > that, at least during my > > > first 2 or 3 runs, the car could beat me. > > > > > > > GRAPHIC > > > > ------------------------- > > > > A mile and a half ( 1 1/2 ) better thanRC2000. > > > > (snipe) > > > > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT16mb > > card ) > > > > > > It looks like a joystick and old video card arethe > > way to play this game ;) > > > The graphics sure weren't great with my V5500 or > > Radeon 8500. > > > > > > > where is the email address boys ? only fax orphone

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> > > > numbers !! > > > > > > Ya, I was going to contact them about the loading > > problems and couldn't find > > > an email address either. > > > > > > > hello, this is earth year 2002. > > > > > > That's exactly my point for the whole game. It

was > > released in 2001 and I > > > certainly expect more from any recent game. > > > > > > There's more I could have complained about. WhenI > > loaded it on my kids' > > > computer, it only saw it as a music cd (which > > wouldn't play). Nothing's ever > > > done that before. Our computers are networked, soI > > loaded it from my cdrw. > > > It wouldn't load from my dvd-rom (even afterwashing > > it properly). I got the > > > game from another SGN reviewer because itwouldn't > > load on his computer. > > > It's not the condition of the cd as far as Iknow, > > it's just fussy. > > > > > > I could just go on and on and on........ (oh, I > > already have ;) > > > > > > I'm glad you enjoy the game, John. There'sanother

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> > title out called "Spirit > > > of Speed, 1937" that you might want to try out. > > > (J/K gents) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Slot > > > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >