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Re: My first AI win

20 posts by 13 people · 01 Feb 2002 01:22 UTC - 02 Feb 2002 22:20 UTC

First GPL win against the AI and favourite setups

Albisu Amaya celebrated a first win against the GPL AI at Monza using one of Roland Ehnstrom's setups. Others praised Roland's and Wolfgang Woeger's setups, though Rob Adams warned they are too loose for slower drivers, and Chris Moses' Eagle setups were also recommended. A side issue covered Japanese character-set prompts in Outlook Express.

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Go Thomas... we knew you could do it ;) Mikkel Albisu Amaya <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c59ecfa$0$33516$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I finally won a race against the AI. > > Only a novice race and at Monza - but still I won. > > Battling with Hill and Clark and focusing on not making any of the usual > blunders. > > Finally > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr�ms setup - brilliant > setup Roland - thanks > > Thomas Soerensen > DGPLS > Team Rumble Strip Racing > > >
Albisu Amaya 01 Feb 2002 01:22 UTC#138714
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally won a race against the AI. Only a novice race and at Monza - but still I won. Battling with Hill and Clark and focusing on not making any of the usual blunders. Finally It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr�ms setup - brilliant setup Roland - thanks Thomas Soerensen DGPLS Team Rumble Strip Racing
Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I finally won a race against the AI.<snip> Congrats :-) > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr�ms setup - > brilliant setup Roland - thanks I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
If his are the setups ending in the RE suffix, I wholly agree and would like to add my thanks. I've only had GPL for a few months, but I've found again and again that the 'RE' and 'WW' (sorry...wish I knew the name or I'd give credit here for these as well) setups do wonders for me. It was like getting into an entirely different car when I first found these setups and tried them with the Lotus. So thank you, RE and WW, whoever you are.... Itazura "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > > > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > I finally won a race against the AI. > <snip> > > Congrats :-) > > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr黼碣蛹跚瘤黼呰赱鈔葹鉉蜴呰赱鈔續癇鱚瘡踟繻跂銓彦黼纃闥闔辣阯纔竦續嚼甃鈔纈逋續矚黼闔蜩鈔
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Biz 01 Feb 2002 04:47 UTC↳ reply to SS#138647
Dear Itazura, I get hit with Japanese text support downloads every one of your messages i go to read, is this somethig you could correct if you're going to be posting in english? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think its your strange character set that messes things up. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash ss <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aUo68.1$[email hidden]... > If his are the setups ending in the RE suffix, I wholly agree and would like > to add my thanks. I've only had GPL for a few months, but I've found again > and again that the 'RE' and 'WW' (sorry...wish I knew the name or I'd give > credit here for these as well) setups do wonders for me. It was like > getting into an entirely different car when I first found these setups and > tried them with the Lotus. > > So thank you, RE and WW, whoever you are.... > > Itazura > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > > > > > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > I finally won a race against the AI. > > <snip> > > > > Congrats :-) > > > > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr$B?N(Bs setup - > > > brilliant setup Roland - thanks > > > > I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long > > time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and > > can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of. > > > > -- > > "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, > > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. > > > > The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com >
WW I think would be Wolfgang Woeger ss wrote:
Quoted text (41 lines)>If his are the setups ending in the RE suffix, I wholly agree and would like >to add my thanks. I've only had GPL for a few months, but I've found again >and again that the 'RE' and 'WW' (sorry...wish I knew the name or I'd give >credit here for these as well) setups do wonders for me. It was like >getting into an entirely different car when I first found these setups and >tried them with the Lotus. > >So thank you, RE and WW, whoever you are.... > > Itazura > > > > >"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... > >>Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: >> >>>YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>>I finally won a race against the AI. >>> >><snip> >> >>Congrats :-) >> >>>It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr?s setup - >>>brilliant setup Roland - thanks >>> >>I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long >>time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and >>can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of. >> >>-- >>"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, >>really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. >> >>The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com >> >
SS 01 Feb 2002 07:10 UTC↳ reply to Biz#138666
"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:o5p68.4161$[email hidden]... > Dear Itazura, I get hit with Japanese text support downloads every one ofyour messages i go to > read, is this somethig you could correct if you're going to be posting inenglish? > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-2022-jp" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hmm... I have a Japanese OS and that's why the charcter set shows up as Japanese in the 'charset' heading, but I'm sending my newsgroup messages in plain text format. I just went through all of the option settings I could find that seemed relevant in my software, but I'm not sure I can send messages in any more basic a format than this. I would think that any 'automatic download' of Japanese fonts on your end would be a function of your newsreader software, though. Sorry for the hassle... if I knew how to fix it I would. Maybe someone will have a suggestion... I'm using MS Outlook Express (Japanese) version 6. Itazura
Chris H. 01 Feb 2002 15:14 UTC↳ reply to Biz#138753
Just tracking this down a little, and believe it to be related to the setting in Internet Explorer (Outlook Express and IE share technologies between the apps) in Tools/Internet Options/Advanced tab in the Browsing section of Settings. When there is a check mark in the line "Enable Install On Demand (Other)" I believe that's where the prompt is generated. Try taking the check mark out, reboot and then open one of the messages again. -- Chris H. "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:o5p68.4161$[email hidden]... > Dear Itazura, I get hit with Japanese text support downloads every one of your messages i go to > read, is this somethig you could correct if you're going to be posting in english? > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-2022-jp" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I think its your strange character set that messes things up. > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash
Chris H. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mhy68.250803$[email hidden]... > Just tracking this down a little, and believe it to be related to the > setting in Internet Explorer (Outlook Express and IE share technologies > between the apps) in Tools/Internet Options/Advanced tab in the Browsing > section of Settings. When there is a check mark in the line "Enable Install > On Demand (Other)" I believe that's where the prompt is generated. Try > taking the check mark out, reboot and then open one of the messages again. Cool, I'm trying that now. Should also be helpful as the damn Koreans seem to have discovered spam in the last few months - my email is constantly asking me to d/l the Korean charset! Jonny > "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:o5p68.4161$[email hidden]... > > Dear Itazura, I get hit with Japanese text support downloads every one of > your messages i go to > > read, is this somethig you could correct if you're going to be posting in > english?
"Chris H." wrote...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Just tracking this down a little, and believe it to be > related to the setting in Internet Explorer (Outlook > Express and IE share technologies between the apps) in > Tools/Internet Options/Advanced tab in the Browsing > section of Settings. When there is a check mark in the > line "Enable Install On Demand (Other)" I believe that's > where the prompt is generated. Try taking the check > mark out, reboot and then open one of the messages again.
True. I just installed it when it asked me to long time ago (makes accidentally arriving on Asian websites a little more pleasing to the eye as well). Doesn't seem to make a difference to posting on newsgroups, other than my compose font changes when I reply to one of those messages. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.
I'll bump on the congrats ;)! My only near win was an Int Long race at Monza, and I ran out of fuel on the last lap! Sputtered through Vialone and coasted to a stop in Parabolica, argh ;)! Where might I find Roland's setups? And how do they compare to Alison Hine's? I don't have alot of time to develop setups, and prefer to concentrate on just driving and having fun. I really like Allison's setups, especially her Ferrari setups - the car is setup similarly to how a real 67 car would have been setup, and has a fantastic feel. I wouldn't want to switch to a go-kart setup, no matter how fast it is. Just tried her Eagle setup for WG and *wham*, by the second lap I'd bettered my PB and finally bested 1:10! Yeah I'm slow, but I'm consistent ;). I may be negotiating a team change. Kendt David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > > > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > I finally won a race against the AI. > <snip> > > Congrats :-) > > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr�ms setup - > > brilliant setup Roland - thanks > > I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long > time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and > can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of.
IMHO, you will find Roland's setups impossible to drive if you're still in the 1:10 mark at the Glen. Maybe they just don't suit my driving style but I tried them and found them WAY looser than I can handle. Until you can get maybe 1:07 or so at the Glen, you should probably be spending more time practicing and learning the lines than fiddling with setups. Alison's setups can get you there just fine. "Kendt Eklund" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> I'll bump on the congrats ;)! > My only near win was an Int Long race at Monza, and I ran out of fuel > on the last lap! Sputtered through Vialone and coasted to a stop in > Parabolica, argh ;)! > > Where might I find Roland's setups? And how do they compare to Alison > Hine's? I don't have alot of time to develop setups, and prefer to > concentrate on just driving and having fun. I really like Allison's > setups, especially her Ferrari setups - the car is setup similarly to > how a real 67 car would have been setup, and has a fantastic feel. I > wouldn't want to switch to a go-kart setup, no matter how fast it is. > Just tried her Eagle setup for WG and *wham*, by the second lap I'd > bettered my PB and finally bested 1:10! Yeah I'm slow, but I'm > consistent ;). I may be negotiating a team change. > > Kendt > > David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (15 lines)> > Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > > > > > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > I finally won a race against the AI. > > <snip> > > > > Congrats :-) > > > > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr�ms setup - > > > brilliant setup Roland - thanks > > > > I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long > > time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and > > can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of.
Kendt Eklund ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: <snip> > Where might I find Roland's setups?<snip> http://www.kolumbus.fi/petenkoti/setups.html As far as how they drive goes... they're not for the complete novice - you'll need to feel reasonably comfortable about pushing the car quite hard (controlled slides around corners, etc) - but a reasonably experienced driver should find them fairly straightforward to get to grips with,as they give excellent feedback. At a guess, I'd imagine you'd need to be running in 1:07 at the Glen, sub-1:30 at Monza and 3:25 at Spa to want to use them ahead of Alison Hine's setups. Depends on your driving style, though - some people can go very fast indeed with Alison's setups. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
Shows up fine here (OE 6) Marc "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:o5p68.4161$[email hidden]... > Dear Itazura, I get hit with Japanese text support downloads every one ofyour messages i go to > read, is this somethig you could correct if you're going to be posting inenglish?
Quoted text (17 lines)> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-2022-jp" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I think its your strange character set that messes things up. > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > ss <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:aUo68.1$[email hidden]... > > If his are the setups ending in the RE suffix, I wholly agree and wouldlike > > to add my thanks. I've only had GPL for a few months, but I've foundagain > > and again that the 'RE' and 'WW' (sorry...wish I knew the name or I'dgive > > credit here for these as well) setups do wonders for me. It was like > > getting into an entirely different car when I first found these setupsand
Quoted text (24 lines)> > tried them with the Lotus. > > > > So thank you, RE and WW, whoever you are.... > > > > Itazura > > > > > > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > > > > > > > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > I finally won a race against the AI. > > > <snip> > > > > > > Congrats :-) > > > > > > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr$B?N(Bs setup - > > > > brilliant setup Roland - thanks > > > > > > I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a
long
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and > > > can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of. > > > > > > -- > > > "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, > > > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. > > > > > > The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > > > >
In article <[email hidden]>, David Buttery <[email hidden]> writes: >At a guess, I'd imagine you'd need to be running in 1:07 at the Glen, >sub-1:30 at Monza and 3:25 at Spa to want to use them ahead of Alison >Hine's setups. Depends on your driving style, though - some people can >go very fast indeed with Alison's setups. Some people can also go very fast with the DEFAULT setups - even 'negative'... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
WW is probably Wolfgang Woeger... Mikkel Gram-Hansen http://www.racesimcentral.com ss <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aUo68.1$[email hidden]... > If his are the setups ending in the RE suffix, I wholly agree and wouldlike > to add my thanks. I've only had GPL for a few months, but I've foundagain
Quoted text (36 lines)> and again that the 'RE' and 'WW' (sorry...wish I knew the name or I'd give > credit here for these as well) setups do wonders for me. It was like > getting into an entirely different car when I first found these setups and > tried them with the Lotus. > > So thank you, RE and WW, whoever you are.... > > Itazura > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Albisu Amaya ([email hidden]) wrote on 01 Feb 2002: > > > > > YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > I finally won a race against the AI. > > <snip> > > > > Congrats :-) > > > > > It was by the way in the Ferrari with Roland Ehnstr$B�N(Bs setup - > > > brilliant setup Roland - thanks > > > > I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long > > time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and > > can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of. > > > > -- > > "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, > > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. > > > > The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com >
> I think Roland's setups are really excellent. I've used them for a long > time now (excpet at Spa, and even there my setup is based on his), and > can't see many better setups that a non-alien would get much out of. > > The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com If you are an Eagle fan, I strongly recommend Chris Moses' setups, I can't live without those anymore ;) Mikkel Gram-Hansen http://www.racesimcentral.com PS: Chris if you are reading.... could you make a setup package for all the new addon tracks ? I feel lost (and slow) when I have to build something myself, as that is NOT my stronger side of GPL ;)
EldredP ([email hidden]) wrote on 02 Feb 2002: > Some people can also go very fast with the DEFAULT setups - even > 'negative'... Yeah, well - I did say I was excluding aliens... -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
In article <[email hidden]>, David Buttery <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (7 lines)>EldredP ([email hidden]) wrote on 02 Feb 2002: > >> Some people can also go very fast with the DEFAULT setups - even >> 'negative'... > >Yeah, well - I did say I was excluding aliens... >
Would you consider Maxx an alien? He did it to prove a point that the setup isn't the end-all solution... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP ([email hidden]) wrote on 02 Feb 2002: > Would you consider Maxx an alien? He did it to prove a point that > the setup isn't the end-all solution... Maxx? I suppose he's not an alien in the generally accepted sense of the word, but he's certainly a lot better at getting the best out of any given setup than most of us. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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