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N2002 WAREZ!!

23 posts by 17 people · 13 Feb 2002 23:19 UTC - 21 Feb 2002 17:52 UTC

Warez announcement for NR2002 gets rebuffed

A poster announced that a pirated copy of NR2002 was circulating, and regulars told him to go away, noting online play needs a legitimate copy. The thread moved on to whether publishers could detect pirated or no-CD copies remotely, and whether doing so would be legal.

community/metaindustry/businessNASCAR Racing 2002 Season

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Peter Heater 13 Feb 2002 23:19 UTC#136746
Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez releases.. (wheres my) Peter Heater
Lame! "Peter Heater" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
I hope you have an asbestos suit ready cause I think I smell something heating up. "Peter Heater" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
It's already in the stores, so go away. Marc "Peter Heater" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
This is not the proper place to say these things. Learn when to say things and where to say them, otherwise, you'll die dumb and unchallenged. Alanb "Peter Heater" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
And what kind of response are you expecting? I KNOW what you're gonna get! Tim "Peter Heater" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
Peter Heater wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
.........closely followed by the Piracy Police and a nice stay in Hotel Buggery! Seriously. Last night here in Australia there was a show on the tele with a computer whiz showing how easy it was for any hacker, etc to have unlimited access to anyone's computer on the net. Open and close the CD Drive, open and view any folder, etc. It may not be legal for software houses or Piracy Police to do this but how would anyone know? Just follow it up with a "random" inspection of someone's computer. Or maybe just do a delete/C: for them? hehehehehehehe
lessee, pay $50 AND be able to race online and be realtively sure that it will install and work. OR Get the warez version, put Papy out of business and be stuck with the AI, hmmmmm. Not a difficult choice here, bug off! Peter Heater <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Since this happens with every release, people saying how they wont > download it (but thats mainly because they cant find it), N2002 has > been released in iso format only at the moment, the rip will proberly > be out in the next day or so. check www.isonews.com for all warez > releases.. > > (wheres my) > Peter Heater
In article <[email hidden]>, Byron Forbes <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (7 lines)> Seriously. Last night here in Australia there was a show on the tele >with a computer whiz showing how easy it was for any hacker, etc to have >unlimited access to anyone's computer on the net. Open and close the CD >Drive, open and view any folder, etc. It may not be legal for software >houses or Piracy Police to do this but how would anyone know? Just >follow it up with a "random" inspection of someone's computer. Or maybe >just do a delete/C: for them? hehehehehehehe
Ok - so somebody snoops your hard drive and sees a program on it. How do THEY know if it's warez or a legit copy? I'd hate to see someone get nuked for nothing... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)> > In article <[email hidden]>, Byron Forbes > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Seriously. Last night here in Australia there was a show on the tele > >with a computer whiz showing how easy it was for any hacker, etc to have > >unlimited access to anyone's computer on the net. Open and close the CD > >Drive, open and view any folder, etc. It may not be legal for software > >houses or Piracy Police to do this but how would anyone know? Just > >follow it up with a "random" inspection of someone's computer. Or maybe > >just do a delete/C: for them? hehehehehehehe > > Ok - so somebody snoops your hard drive and sees a program on it. How do THEY > know if it's warez or a legit copy? I'd hate to see someone get nuked for > nothing... > > Eldred
Good point. Where there's a will there's a way! :) Off the top of my head, how about an in game program that knows if a certain file has been sent across the net (one that never would be for reasons other than piracy). I'd be surprised if there was no way to tell whether a file had been copied from a CD or not. One with a unique serial number at that?
EldredP wrote: > > Ok - so somebody snoops your hard drive and sees a program on it. How do THEY > know if it's warez or a legit copy? I'd hate to see someone get nuked for > nothing... Most warez uses totally different setup routines. The program's root directory will have files the *real* program doesn't. It will also be lacking some files the real program has. It would be easy to differentiate. -- Fester "Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?" from alt.linux.mandrake NG
In article <[email hidden]>, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (12 lines)>EldredP wrote: >> >> Ok - so somebody snoops your hard drive and sees a program on it. How do >THEY >> know if it's warez or a legit copy? I'd hate to see someone get nuked for >> nothing... > > >Most warez uses totally different setup routines. The program's root >directory will have files the *real* program doesn't. It will also be >lacking some files the real program has. It would be easy to >differentiate.
Oh - shows what *I* know about warez...<g> Ok, here's another: Would the various "no-cd" patches make the program appear to be warez, even though the person bought the program? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
On 16 Feb 2002 15:34:50 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Oh - shows what *I* know about warez...<g> Ok, here's another: Would the >various "no-cd" patches make the program appear to be warez, even though the >person bought the program? > >Eldred Yes. Allmost allways it's only the (mainprogram).exe file that is different in a warez version. They hack that exe file to bypass any copy protections. Exactly the same as those no-cd patches actually. There are 2 sorts of warez versions btw: Rips - To keep the download small intro movies, music etc have been ripped. Often the music and movies can be downloaded as addons again. Iso's - Complete backup of cd's, often provided with a hacked exe file to bypass the copy protection. Andre
Byron Forbes <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Seriously. Last night here in Australia there was a show on the tele > with a computer whiz showing how easy it was for any hacker, etc to have > unlimited access to anyone's computer on the net. Open and close the CD > Drive, open and view any folder, etc. It may not be legal for software > houses or Piracy Police to do this but how would anyone know? Just > follow it up with a "random" inspection of someone's computer. Or maybe > just do a delete/C: for them? hehehehehehehe
Uh. If you administer your operating systems correctly, it is impossible to do what you're describing. A properly administered Windows machine should not be accepting TCP or UDP connections on any port. As far as piracy goes, I don't see why anyone would want an illegal copy of N2002 since it's useless online (all it takes is one person to give papy the serial and no more sierra.com for you). Jason
Brings up a question. Last week I built up a new system, and had to get a new PCI Modem. (ESS) Ever since then, If I'm flying my FS2002 in multiplayer, I will get a pop-up screen indicating indicating that my "ISP does not accept incoming calls". How do I disable that? Thanks... Jim Tester [email hidden] "jason moyer" wrote in > Uh. If you administer your operating systems correctly, it is > impossible to do what you're describing. A properly administered > Windows machine should not be accepting TCP or UDP connections on any > port. >
On 16 Feb 2002 09:36:35 -0800, [email hidden] (jason moyer) wrote: >As far as piracy goes, I don't see why anyone would want an illegal >copy of N2002 since it's useless online (all it takes is one person to >give papy the serial and no more sierra.com for you). >Jason To play it offline untill it's being released in the shops over here. Andre
On 16 Feb 2002 09:36:35 -0800, [email hidden] (jason moyer) wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)>Byron Forbes <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > >> Seriously. Last night here in Australia there was a show on the tele >> with a computer whiz showing how easy it was for any hacker, etc to have >> unlimited access to anyone's computer on the net. Open and close the CD >> Drive, open and view any folder, etc. It may not be legal for software >> houses or Piracy Police to do this but how would anyone know? Just >> follow it up with a "random" inspection of someone's computer. Or maybe >> just do a delete/C: for them? hehehehehehehe > >Uh. If you administer your operating systems correctly, it is >impossible to do what you're describing. A properly administered >Windows machine should not be accepting TCP or UDP connections on any >port.
Problem is Windows starts by thinking everything is ok. Well, that's exaggerated but it seems there was a service, installed by default on XP (and optionally in ME) that would allow some remote servicing. ;-) Needless to say, if the version number is below 5 or 6, NEVER trust any MS product to be secure. ;-) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/
In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (11 lines)>On 16 Feb 2002 15:34:50 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>Oh - shows what *I* know about warez...<g> Ok, here's another: Would the >>various "no-cd" patches make the program appear to be warez, even though the >>person bought the program? >> >>Eldred > >Yes. Allmost allways it's only the (mainprogram).exe file that is >different in a warez version. They hack that exe file to bypass any >copy protections. Exactly the same as those no-cd patches actually.
So, based on the hypothetical situation posed: Someone could have bought a program, but runs the no-cd version for whatever reason. The manufacturer hacks into his computer, sees the modified .exe file, and erases his hard drive. Erm, lawsuit, anyone? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
On 17 Feb 2002 01:33:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >So, based on the hypothetical situation posed: Someone could have bought a >program, but runs the no-cd version for whatever reason. The manufacturer >hacks into his computer, sees the modified .exe file, and erases his hard >drive. Erm, lawsuit, anyone? > >Eldred I believe it's legally forbidden to modify (and thus use) the exe file. So.. you're gonna lose that lawsuit :) Andre
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (13 lines)> > >On 17 Feb 2002 01:33:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>So, based on the hypothetical situation posed: Someone could have bought a >>program, but runs the no-cd version for whatever reason. The manufacturer >>hacks into his computer, sees the modified .exe file, and erases his hard >>drive. Erm, lawsuit, anyone? >> >>Eldred > >I believe it's legally forbidden to modify (and thus use) the exe >file. So.. you're gonna lose that lawsuit :)
Um. No. You'd win easily as it is only illegal to modify your files in the dreams of software companies. Can't believe the fucking corporate lackies who seem to believe that, no matter what, the consumer should just fuck off. -Tim
It's illeagal to "hack" into someone's pc so I'd say you're going to win that lawsuit regardless of what they find. Don "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 17 Feb 2002 01:33:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >So, based on the hypothetical situation posed: Someone could have boughta > >program, but runs the no-cd version for whatever reason. Themanufacturer
Quoted text (9 lines)> >hacks into his computer, sees the modified .exe file, and erases his hard > >drive. Erm, lawsuit, anyone? > > > >Eldred > > I believe it's legally forbidden to modify (and thus use) the exe > file. So.. you're gonna lose that lawsuit :) > > Andre
"Jim Tester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4m64c$q75$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Brings up a question. Last week I built up a new system, and had to get a > new PCI Modem. (ESS) Ever since then, If I'm flying my FS2002 in > multiplayer, I will get a pop-up screen indicating indicating that my "ISP > does not accept incoming calls". > > How do I disable that? > > Thanks...
You have one of the newer v.92 modems. Is it made by USR? If it is you should have got a utility to install that allows you to change that option. v.92 modems allow you to stay conected to the internet while accepting an incoming call, but your ISP has to be setup to the v.92 standard for it to function correctly.
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (30 lines)> > In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >On 16 Feb 2002 15:34:50 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > > >>Oh - shows what *I* know about warez...<g> Ok, here's another: Would the > >>various "no-cd" patches make the program appear to be warez, even though the > >>person bought the program? > >> > >>Eldred > > > >Yes. Allmost allways it's only the (mainprogram).exe file that is > >different in a warez version. They hack that exe file to bypass any > >copy protections. Exactly the same as those no-cd patches actually. > > So, based on the hypothetical situation posed: Someone could have bought a > program, but runs the no-cd version for whatever reason. The manufacturer > hacks into his computer, sees the modified .exe file, and erases his hard > drive. Erm, lawsuit, anyone? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Yeah, ok. Forget the Hardrive erase thing. But it is a good clue as to who may have a pirated copy of some software.

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