Worst driving game ever?

My nomination goes to... 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. This arcade game was outdated when it was released in the early 1980's. Gameplay consisted simply of two rows of vertical white "blips" that "moved" down the screen in simulated perspective and motion plus they moved side to side to simulate turns and curves. The game had a steering wheel and accelerator, possibly a gearshift, maybe a brake pedal. Opinion on some classic arcade emulation sites often concludes that this "game" was a simple technology demo that an over excited company official decided to ship as-is. :)

i have to say test drive's 4, 5, and 6. shittiest physics in a driving game ever. i realize the games were supposed to be arcade, but the physics would have sucked no matter what you touted the game as. i'm sure i could think of a worse one, but i'm too damn tired right now. "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My nomination goes to... > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > This arcade game was outdated when it was released in the early > 1980's. Gameplay consisted simply of two rows of vertical white > "blips" that "moved" down the screen in simulated perspective > and motion plus they moved side to side to simulate turns and curves. > The game had a steering wheel and accelerator, possibly a gearshift, > maybe a brake pedal. > > Opinion on some classic arcade emulation sites often concludes > that this "game" was a simple technology demo that an over excited > company official decided to ship as-is. :) >

Ford Racing & Dick Johnson V8 Challenge come to mind. Johnny Herbert F1, ,Nelson Piquet F1 and Prost F1 games were pretty bad also.. "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My nomination goes to... > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > This arcade game was outdated when it was released in the early > 1980's. Gameplay consisted simply of two rows of vertical white > "blips" that "moved" down the screen in simulated perspective > and motion plus they moved side to side to simulate turns and curves. > The game had a steering wheel and accelerator, possibly a gearshift, > maybe a brake pedal. > > Opinion on some classic arcade emulation sites often concludes > that this "game" was a simple technology demo that an over excited > company official decided to ship as-is. :) >

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> wrote: >My nomination goes to... It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. Andre

[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >My nomination goes to... > > It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. Possibly, but I remembered another title, not that i've tried it, but what about Al Unser Jr.'s Arcade Racer ? :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

"Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes: > My nomination goes to... > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. never heard of it. I nominate Ducati Racing or whatever it's called. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 myk, trygg og god.

On 14 Feb 2002 12:21:33 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:

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>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >My nomination goes to... >> >> It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. > >Possibly, but I remembered another title, not that i've tried it, but >what about Al Unser Jr.'s Arcade Racer ? :)

We have a bunch of budget Highway Racers here; A2 Racer, Holiday Racer etc. Great idea, but at least the first few incarnations sucked totally (unfortunately); driving 120 km/h and feeling as if it's 30 km/h isn't much fun. Haven't tried the latest one; might sell them my engine one day. ;-) But Al Unser Jr.'s racing game sure did suck as well, I remember that. Sometimes you just feel that no-one has ever played their own game. Ruud van Gaal Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > But Al Unser Jr.'s racing game sure did suck as well, I remember that. > Sometimes you just feel that no-one has ever played their own game. Can still get Al Unser over here - it'll set you back a �5 or three for a �10 in Bargain Books. (You can get the original Papy Nascar Racing in the same deal as well.) -- AG Remove removes from address to remove anti-spam measures. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Gauton E-Mail [email hidden] Never for me the lowered banner, never the last endeavour! (Damon Hill - 16th June 1999)

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> wrote: >My nomination goes to... > >280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this >license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. Hot Chix and Gearstix (something like that). So bad even the name sucked.

On 14 Feb 2002 12:21:33 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:

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>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >My nomination goes to... >> >> It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. > >Possibly, but I remembered another title, not that i've tried it, but >what about Al Unser Jr.'s Arcade Racer ? :) > >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove .spam when replying

One word: Autobahn. Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

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>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >My nomination goes to... >> >> It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. > >Possibly, but I remembered another title, not that i've tried it, but >what about Al Unser Jr.'s Arcade Racer ? :) > >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove .spam when replying

Or Autobahn? Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

ABC Sports Road to Indy. First hint something was wrong should have been that it gave you 2 cd's. -- Fester "Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?" from alt.linux.mandrake NG

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> 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > This arcade game was outdated when it was released in the early > 1980's. Gameplay consisted simply of two rows of vertical white > "blips" that "moved" down the screen in simulated perspective > and motion plus they moved side to side to simulate turns and curves.

Hey! I remember that one! It inspired me to write a similar game on my Apple II. Except I got bored with just white road-side posts and added a sky plus grass on either side. Woo-hoo. ...Klinn

The worst? Autobahn. On 14 Feb 2002 12:21:33 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:

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>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >My nomination goes to... >> >> It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. > >Possibly, but I remembered another title, not that i've tried it, but >what about Al Unser Jr.'s Arcade Racer ? :) > >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove .spam when replying

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful Crazy Cars - Woeful and the list goes on...............

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:14:28 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >The worst? Autobahn. Yes.. we get the picture by now :) Andre

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:14:28 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >The worst? Autobahn. Btw.. a couple of weeks ago I got in this talk with a girl I met on the train. She told me her job was beta-testing racing games for a software company. I got all excited ofcourse, untill she explained she was beta-testing games for Davilex, the company behind all those Autobahn games.. Andre

For the Al Jr game - the PC one, I take it? I remember the NES one a lot more...played that game waaaaaaay too much....ultra-simple, but come on, it was a NES...best part is, it was closer to an F1 sim than a CART sim. ;) Sticking to my console-gamer roots, there's also Bill Elliot's NASCAR Challenge...I might have to buy a NES and those two games since those are the only two NES games I've seen that STILL can't be emulated. Milhouse "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:57:53 -0700, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >My nomination goes to... > > > > It starts with an S and ends with OS'37.. > > Possibly, but I remembered another title, not that i've tried it, but > what about Al Unser Jr.'s Arcade Racer ? :) > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying

Sorry about that. :P Worldnet misplaced its news servers for a bit. On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:52:40 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:14:28 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > >>The worst? Autobahn. > >Yes.. we get the picture by now :) > >Andre

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Actually, the Autobahn I'm referring to did not come from Davilex. (I'd have to dig out the CD to see where and that is more work than its worth.) My favorite Davilex game has to be Vakantie Racer. "Can you get to the last camp site before everyone else? Especially when you're pulling a trailer?" The GPL of caravan towing action. On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:55:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:14:28 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > >>The worst? Autobahn. > >Btw.. a couple of weeks ago I got in this talk with a girl I met on >the train. She told me her job was beta-testing racing games for a >software company. I got all excited ofcourse, untill she explained she >was beta-testing games for Davilex, the company behind all those >Autobahn games.. > >Andre

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Actually, the Autobahn I'm referring to did not > come from Davilex. (I'd have to dig out the CD to > see where and that is more work than its worth.) Wouldn't be GSP would it? - Autobahn, Night Racer etc. -- AG Remove removes from address to remove anti-spam measures. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Gauton E-Mail [email hidden] Never for me the lowered banner, never the last endeavour! (Damon Hill - 16th June 1999)

Grand Prix Legends. Just a bunch of stupid old cars, and far too slow by today's standards. What the hell were they thinking with this game? Did they really think we wouldn't notice that F1 racing had changed dramatically over the years! The only way this game would work, is if they'd call it "Grand Prix Killers", and give the drivers some guns so they could all shoot each other (or themselves...) during the race. I'm off to play Mario Kart now, best sim ever. Ice D

Nascar Revolution. -Larry "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My nomination goes to... > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > This arcade game was outdated when it was released in the early > 1980's. Gameplay consisted simply of two rows of vertical white > "blips" that "moved" down the screen in simulated perspective > and motion plus they moved side to side to simulate turns and curves. > The game had a steering wheel and accelerator, possibly a gearshift, > maybe a brake pedal. > > Opinion on some classic arcade emulation sites often concludes > that this "game" was a simple technology demo that an over excited > company official decided to ship as-is. :) >

"Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<s0Qa8.52584$[email hidden]>... > Sticking to my console-gamer roots, there's also Bill Elliot's NASCAR > Challenge...I might have to buy a NES and those two games since those are > the only two NES games I've seen that STILL can't be emulated. Which emulator do you use? I know that Nesticle (which was abandoned years ago) won't play them but all of the ones I've tried recently that are still in development play them flawlessly. In another story, someone at work sold me a NES in mint condition with 4 controllers and around 300-400 games for $20. Yep, $20. It will look nice next to my atari 2600 and the dreamcast I picked up last week. Jason

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"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<s0Qa8.52584$[email hidden]>... > > > Sticking to my console-gamer roots, there's also Bill Elliot's NASCAR > > Challenge...I might have to buy a NES and those two games since thoseare > > the only two NES games I've seen that STILL can't be emulated. > > Which emulator do you use? I know that Nesticle (which was abandoned > years ago) won't play them but all of the ones I've tried recently > that are still in development play them flawlessly. Hmm, can't say I've ever tried any emulator other than NESticle...love the name, hehe...though I should really try another, since yeah, I know, NESticle is long-abandoned. Milhouse > In another story, someone at work sold me a NES in mint condition with > 4 controllers and around 300-400 games for $20. Yep, $20. It will > look nice next to my atari 2600 and the dreamcast I picked up last > week. > > Jason

That gets my vote. It was the worst attempt at a real sim i've ever seen. "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > ABC Sports Road to Indy. First hint something was wrong should have > been that it gave you 2 cd's. > > -- > > Fester > > "Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no > brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?" > from alt.linux.mandrake NG

Matt Wilson wrote: > Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful > Crazy Cars - Woeful > > and the list goes on............... Indeed, I got that one for "free" and felt ripped off. KFG

how about M25 Racer? "Kevin F. Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kSYa8.82302$[email hidden]...

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> Matt Wilson wrote: > > > Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful > > Crazy Cars - Woeful > > > > and the list goes on............... > > Indeed, I got that one for "free" and felt ripped off. > > KFG

In article <[email hidden]>, "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes: >My nomination goes to... > >280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this >license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. Ford Racing... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Matt Wilson" <[email hidden]> writes: >Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful >Crazy Cars - Woeful > Hmm... I actually *liked* Andretti Racing...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <s0Qa8.52584$[email hidden]>, "Milhouse" <[email hidden]> writes: >Sticking to my console-gamer roots, there's also Bill Elliot's NASCAR >Challenge...I might have to buy a NES and those two games since those are >the only two NES games I've seen that STILL can't be emulated. > Doe the AI run you over during cautions on the NES version, too? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <7xTa8.110$[email hidden]>, "Ice D" <[email hidden]> writes: >Grand Prix Legends. Just a bunch of stupid old cars, and far too slow by >today's standards. What the hell were they thinking with this game? Did they >really think we wouldn't notice that F1 racing had changed dramatically over >the years! The only way this game would work, is if they'd call it "Grand >Prix Killers", and give the drivers some guns so they could all shoot each >other (or themselves...) during the race. Sometimes I wish I *could* put machine guns on my car. It would get rid of some of the idiots on VROC...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Matt Wilson" > <[email hidden]> writes: > >>Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful >>Crazy Cars - Woeful >> > > Hmm... I actually *liked* Andretti Racing...<g> > > Eldred

Yeah, well, we know about *you.* KFG

Gregg E. ([email hidden]) wrote on 14 Feb 2002: > My nomination goes to...<snip> Prost Grand Prix, perhaps. Maybe Ducati World (or whatever). Perhaps a truly awful cheapo game called "World Wide Rally". Definitely *not* Spirit of Speed 1937, though the demo certaily qualifies! -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

On 15 Feb 2002 08:56:30 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Gregg E. ([email hidden]) wrote on 14 Feb 2002: > >> My nomination goes to... ><snip> > >Prost Grand Prix, perhaps. Maybe Ducati World (or whatever). Perhaps >a truly awful cheapo game called "World Wide Rally". Definitely *not* >Spirit of Speed 1937, though the demo certaily qualifies!

Whoa, you mention some pretty shitty games there, I agree even Sos'37 can't beat those in terms of shittyness! I mentioned SoS'37 because it would be better than GPL according to the publisher. I actually believed that, imagine my feelings when I tried it.. I had the same feelings as the day after the 'Gp*L tonight!!' announcement :-/ Andre

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> On 15 Feb 2002 08:56:30 GMT, David Buttery > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Gregg E. ([email hidden]) wrote on 14 Feb 2002: > > > >> My nomination goes to... > ><snip> > > > >Prost Grand Prix, perhaps. Maybe Ducati World (or whatever). Perhaps > >a truly awful cheapo game called "World Wide Rally". Definitely *not* > >Spirit of Speed 1937, though the demo certaily qualifies! > > Whoa, you mention some pretty shitty games there, I agree even Sos'37 > can't beat those in terms of shittyness! > I mentioned SoS'37 because it would be better than GPL according to > the publisher. I actually believed that, imagine my feelings when I > tried it.. I had the same feelings as the day after the 'Gp*L > tonight!!' announcement :-/

You take things way too personal Andre. Chill out with a papy server race on daytona on N4 instead :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

On 15 Feb 2002 10:25:54 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote: >You take things way too personal Andre. Chill out with a papy server >race on daytona on N4 instead :) Talking about N4.. I removed N4 from my HD because I got bored of it and needed the space, but I forgot to backup my wonderfull custom-made Durex(Tm) car (http://httpd.chello.nl/~a.warringa1/N4.jpg). I believe you uploaded it to a site once, can I still download it somewhere? PS Sunday I will chill out by kicking your ass at Solitude.. or will it be like last year, where you manage to block me lap after lap, making me crash the car out of frustration? :)) Andre

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> On 15 Feb 2002 10:25:54 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. > Malmin) wrote: > > >You take things way too personal Andre. Chill out with a papy server > >race on daytona on N4 instead :) > > Talking about N4.. I removed N4 from my HD because I got bored of it > and needed the space, but I forgot to backup my wonderfull custom-made > Durex(Tm) car (http://httpd.chello.nl/~a.warringa1/N4.jpg). > I believe you uploaded it to a site once, can I still download it > somewhere?

Check your mail. The website is down, but as soon as I get adsl (now, where have I said that before) I will build a proper one with lots of stuff. > PS Sunday I will chill out by kicking your ass at Solitude.. or will > it be like last year, where you manage to block me lap after lap, > making me crash the car out of frustration? :)) I didn't block, I raced as hard as I could :o You will probably park me at Solitude, since I haven't found time for practice (damned norwegians doing so well in the olympics, I have to watch). I'll be glad just to finish the race. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

On 15 Feb 2002 10:59:41 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote: >Check your mail. The website is down, but as soon as I get adsl (now, >where have I said that before) I will build a proper one with lots of stuff. Thanks! >You will probably park me at Solitude, since I haven't found time for >practice (damned norwegians doing so well in the olympics, I have to >watch). I'll be glad just to finish the race. Haven't been at Soli since our last IGPLC race there :-/ Andre >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove .spam when replying

Andretti Racing for PC "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My nomination goes to... > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > This arcade game was outdated when it was released in the early > 1980's. Gameplay consisted simply of two rows of vertical white > "blips" that "moved" down the screen in simulated perspective > and motion plus they moved side to side to simulate turns and curves. > The game had a steering wheel and accelerator, possibly a gearshift, > maybe a brake pedal. > > Opinion on some classic arcade emulation sites often concludes > that this "game" was a simple technology demo that an over excited > company official decided to ship as-is. :) >

Olav K. Malmin wrote: <snip> > > You will probably park me at Solitude, since I haven't found time for > practice (damned norwegians doing so well in the olympics, I have to > watch). I'll be glad just to finish the race. > Really? That "Spanish" guy kicked your collective butts in Nordic skiing. :) KFG

<snip> Really? That "Spanish" guy kicked your collective butts in Nordic skiing. :) KFG

Andre Warringa ([email hidden]) wrote on 15 Feb 2002: <snip> > I mentioned SoS'37 because it would be better than GPL according to > the publisher. I actually believed that, imagine my feelings when I > tried it.. I had the same feelings as the day after the 'Gp*L > tonight!!' announcement :-/ > > Andre I know what you mean. I remember seeing the first preview of SoS in (I think) PC Gamer - there was one big screenshot and some PR waffle, and it looked *fantastic*. At the time I really thought historic racing sims might take off as a genre in the same way that classic (real) cars have. Then I tried the demo, and went away and cried, almost literally, at the utter waste of a wonderful concept. For a year or so after that I told everyone (as can be seen from some of my earlier posts here) that SoS was indeed the worst driving game ever. Then someone (I'm too lazy to look up who) pointed me in the direction of that little control-device prog and told me the full game was much better than the demo. And they were right. Still waaaay below what it should have been, but acceptable for an occasional thrash. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

On 16 Feb 2002 02:52:41 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Andre Warringa ([email hidden]) wrote on 15 Feb >2002: > ><snip> >> I mentioned SoS'37 because it would be better than GPL according to >> the publisher. I actually believed that, imagine my feelings when I >> tried it.. I had the same feelings as the day after the 'Gp*L >> tonight!!' announcement :-/ >> >> Andre > >I know what you mean. I remember seeing the first preview of SoS in (I >think) PC Gamer - there was one big screenshot and some PR waffle, and >it looked *fantastic*. At the time I really thought historic racing >sims might take off as a genre in the same way that classic (real) cars >have. Then I tried the demo, and went away and cried, almost literally, >at the utter waste of a wonderful concept. > >For a year or so after that I told everyone (as can be seen from some >of my earlier posts here) that SoS was indeed the worst driving game >ever. Then someone (I'm too lazy to look up who) pointed me in the >direction of that little control-device prog and told me the full game >was much better than the demo. And they were right. Still waaaay below >what it should have been, but acceptable for an occasional thrash.

That would've been either me or MrLipid. ;-) Have you guys tried the Spirit Of Heat 1937 mod for NASCAR Heat yet, by any chance? I think WE have come up with THE definitive 1930s GP simulation, in the GPL vein that we all hoped SoS would deliver . . . give it a try if you haven't already: http://irlheat.bhmotorsports.com/spiritofheat/ Enjoy! -- JB

On 16 Feb 2002 02:52:41 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote: >For a year or so after that I told everyone (as can be seen from some >of my earlier posts here) that SoS was indeed the worst driving game >ever. Then someone (I'm too lazy to look up who) pointed me in the >direction of that little control-device prog and told me the full game >was much better than the demo. And they were right. Still waaaay below >what it should have been, but acceptable for an occasional thrash. That was John Bodin, and yes SoS got a little bit better with that Stickworks utility, at least it became playable. Still a pile of crap though :-/ Andre

On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:23:27 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On 16 Feb 2002 02:52:41 GMT, David Buttery ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>For a year or so after that I told everyone (as can be seen from some >>of my earlier posts here) that SoS was indeed the worst driving game >>ever. Then someone (I'm too lazy to look up who) pointed me in the >>direction of that little control-device prog and told me the full game >>was much better than the demo. And they were right. Still waaaay below >>what it should have been, but acceptable for an occasional thrash. > >That was John Bodin,

Actually, I think it was me, MrLipid. ;) >and yes SoS got a little bit better with that >Stickworks utility, at least it became playable. >Still a pile of crap though :-/Well, as the folks who clean toilets say, it may be crap today, but yesterday it was good enough to eat. I'm still voting for Autobahn as the worst. > >Andre Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Actually, I have to agree with Eldred on this one. If I recall correctly, Andretti Racing was actually my first PC racing game, and it prompted me to buy my first wheel............. Go figure.... From humble beginnings start great obsessions....8-) EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Matt Wilson" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful > >Crazy Cars - Woeful > > > > Hmm... I actually *liked* Andretti Racing...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Actually, I have to agree with Eldred on this one. If I recall correctly, Andretti Racing was actually my first PC racing game, and it prompted me to buy my first wheel............. Go figure.... From humble beginnings start great obsessions....8-)

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> >Mario Andretti Racing - Pitiful > >Crazy Cars - Woeful > Hmm... I actually *liked* Andretti Racing...<g> > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Kevin F. Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Olav K. Malmin wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > You will probably park me at Solitude, since I haven't found time for > > practice (damned norwegians doing so well in the olympics, I have to > > watch). I'll be glad just to finish the race. > > > > Really? That "Spanish" guy kicked your collective butts in Nordic skiing. :)

LOL! It's damned funny to read the newspapers now, everyone is blaming everyone for not winning. :) Olav

On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:33:22 GMT, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote: >It's damned funny to read the newspapers now, everyone is blaming >everyone for not winning. :) That's normal :) Andre >Olav

Gunnar Horrigmo wrote:

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> > "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes: > > > My nomination goes to... > > > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > never heard of it. I nominate Ducati Racing or whatever it's called.

Unless you were born in the 1970's so you were old enough to enjoy the first wave of electronic arcade games, you wouldn't remember it. :) The original Demolition Derby was a blast. Nice black and white monitor placed face up in a table style cabinet with 4 or maybe six steering wheels and other controls around it. The later incarnation of demo derby in color with higher resolution graphics was a real bitch to control. Looked pretty though.

"Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > > > > "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > My nomination goes to... > > > > > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this > > > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. > > > > never heard of it. I nominate Ducati Racing or whatever it's called. > > Unless you were born in the 1970's so you were old enough to enjoy > the first wave of electronic arcade games, you wouldn't remember it. > :)

I can remember when Space Invaders came out. :) we probably didn't get everything here in norway. :( -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 DE RECTIS NON TOLERANDUM EST

On 17 Feb 2002 13:18:38 +0100, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes: >> Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: >> > >> > "Gregg E." <[email hidden]> writes: >> > >> > > My nomination goes to... >> > > >> > > 280-Zzzzzap! Datsun (Nissan) certainly didn't get much from this >> > > license, if they even licensed the name of the 280-Z for it. >> > >> > never heard of it. I nominate Ducati Racing or whatever it's called. >> >> Unless you were born in the 1970's so you were old enough to enjoy >> the first wave of electronic arcade games, you wouldn't remember it. >> :) > >I can remember when Space Invaders came out. :) we probably didn't get >everything here in norway. :(

The one I remember is one where you had to steer a car (or two in two-player games) and try to run over as many pedestrians as possible in order to score points (a tombstone appearing in their place after you ran them over). Can't forget the name of that one... it was in the very first arcade hall that opened here in the late 70s... -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( http://www.GeoCities.com/Hollywood/2645 remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

Going to be contentious but..........GP 3 took the biscuit by a long way.Never have I been so disappointed by a piece of Software ,,,well maybe XP :-)

In article <Ub2b8.84087$[email hidden]>, "Kevin F. Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes: >> Hmm... I actually *liked* Andretti Racing...<g> >> >> Eldred > >Yeah, well, we know about *you.* Heyy!!! Kevin, remember that comment when you try to lap me tomorrow...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

somebody forget the *nice* games SEGA did once try to sell on PC .. undrivable ... and ... maybe Viper Racing ... for some reason you cannot drive that with a keyboard ... I spend 2 minutes doing 3 corners and then smartly used the - excellent - option : uninstall, that function was great ! "Kevin F. Gavitt" wrote:

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> Olav K. Malmin wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > You will probably park me at Solitude, since I haven't found time for > > practice (damned norwegians doing so well in the olympics, I have to > > watch). I'll be glad just to finish the race. > > > > Really? That "Spanish" guy kicked your collective butts in Nordic skiing. :) > > KFG

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:10:27 +0100, Tony Van Cauter <[email hidden]> wrote: >somebody forget the *nice* games SEGA did once try to sell on PC .. undrivable >... and ... maybe Viper Racing ... for some reason you cannot drive that with a >keyboard ... I spend 2 minutes doing 3 corners and then smartly used the - >excellent - option : uninstall, that function was great ! Viper Racing a bad racing game because you can't play it with a keyboard.. Right.. Andre

"Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<s0Qa8.52584$[email hidden]>... > For the Al Jr game - the PC one, I take it? > > I remember the NES one a lot more...played that game waaaaaaay too > much....ultra-simple, but come on, it was a NES...best part is, it was > closer to an F1 sim than a CART sim. ;) As a second follow up... Just picked up Al Unser Jr Turbo Racing for the NES I bought recently. Man...the game is over 10 years old and it is still as addicting as the first time I played it. The purchasing of upgrades to the car was way ahead of its time, and the racing is nearly on par with Pit Stop 2 (well, the colecovision and commodore 64 versions - the pc version is amazingly bad) and Pole Position 2, the other really killer 80's racing games. Oh yeah, as far as CART goes. CART Flag-to-Flag for the Dreamcast is one of the best arcade racers I've ever played. Finished a 100% race at Laguna Seca with full damage/full course yellows yesterday. Makes me with Papy would give it another go. =/ Jason

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:35:37 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:10:27 +0100, Tony Van Cauter ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>somebody forget the *nice* games SEGA did once try to sell on PC .. undrivable >>... and ... maybe Viper Racing ... for some reason you cannot drive that with a >>keyboard ... I spend 2 minutes doing 3 corners and then smartly used the - >>excellent - option : uninstall, that function was great ! > >Viper Racing a bad racing game because you can't play it with a >keyboard.. Right..

Well, fortunately people who think like that you don't want to have playing your game anyway. Ruud van Gaal Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/