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Wheels: prolly gonna b a lil boring for y'all, but worth a try...

5 posts by 3 people · 15 Feb 2002 14:51 UTC - 16 Feb 2002 03:04 UTC

Mike Davison 15 Feb 2002 14:51 UTC#136435
This will have been asked many a time here, but as i couldnt find it, i'm gonna ask again...: wot steering wheel should i be going for (a comment on pros and cons would be more useful than just "get this one, the others are rubbish!") so far my list is the sidewinder FF, thrustmaster FFGT (ferrari), Logitech WFFGP (tried to find the old model, but the last ones i saw were in france in august, and they went v quick) and Saitek R440 (dont think much of this, but the pedals are cool...) i really dont have the means to go for summat like the logitech momo or an actlabs wheel...
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:51:47 -0000, "Mike Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote: >This will have been asked many a time here, but as i couldnt find it, i'm >gonna ask again...: >wot steering wheel should i be going for (a comment on pros and cons would >be more useful than just "get this one, the others are rubbish!") >so far my list is the sidewinder FFI tried it and I didn't really like it, but others told me it needs a while to 'rub in'. It's also heavy on system resources, another disadvantage. But it's not too expensive, so all in all good value for money I think. >, thrustmaster FFGT (ferrari), Cheap, both in price and in quality. >Logitech WFFGP (tried to find the old model, but the last ones i saw were in france >in august, and they went v quick) The LWGP is a cheap wheel, quite bad quality. Not recommended unless you really don't want to spend to much money on a ff wheel. >and Saitek R440 (dont think much of this, >but the pedals are cool...)I don't know this one.. but I just saw the price, 99 Euro, so I guess it's crap too :) >i really dont have the means to go for summat like the logitech momo or an >actlabs wheel... Too bad, because there you have the 2 best ff wheels available yet. If you think you're gonna use the ff wheel a lot, I really recommend to save a bit more money and go for a quality wheel. I can surely understand people's reactions that ff is only a gimmick if they only tried it with those el cheapo wheels. And pedals are just as important as the wheel itself. Both the Momo and the ACT-Labs have excellent pedals. It's your call :) Andre
> >, thrustmaster FFGT (ferrari), > Cheap, both in price and in quality. I have heard very good reports about it however, and you cant go expecting something to be built like a tank if you cant afford a tank... > >Logitech WFFGP (tried to find the old model, but the last ones i saw werein france > >in august, and they went v quick) > The LWGP is a cheap wheel, quite bad quality. > Not recommended unless you really don't want to spend to much money on > a ff wheel. the older version is one i am quite familiar with, and has excellent build quality, for the same price as the new one. admittedly i have heard much about how the new one doesnt compare, but it has nothing to do with price... the pedals of the LWFF are however a lil short-reached, but this is easily solved by going back to the trusty T2 pedals
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:42:41 -0000, "Mike Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >, thrustmaster FFGT (ferrari), >> Cheap, both in price and in quality. > >I have heard very good reports about it however, and you cant go expecting >something to be built like a tank if you cant afford a tank...That's what I said right :) >the older version is one i am quite familiar with, and has excellent build >quality, for the same price as the new one. admittedly i have heard much >about how the new one doesnt compare, but it has nothing to do with price... >the pedals of the LWFF are however a lil short-reached, but this is easily >solved by going back to the trusty T2 pedals There are 2 versions of the LWFF (the old red rubber wheel) and you have the LWGP. I had the old LWFF for 3 years and only replaced it because the new Logi Momo wheel was even better. There was a 'new' version of the LWFF released, with a bit more power, a little bit stiffer springs in the pedals, but the quality of the ff was not as good as of the older model. Then the LWGP was released, a cheapo wheel, about half the price of the LWFF. And it's not good, especially compared to the old LWFF it's crap. Gears instead of belt-driven, the wheel is not completely from rubber as the LWFF was, bad shifters, and not-so good ff. And then the Momo came.. enjoying it every day since I bought it, fantastic ff, great quality. And the wheel is covered with leather :) Andre
Mike Davison ([email hidden]) wrote on 15 Feb 2002: > This will have been asked many a time here, but as i couldnt find > it, i'm gonna ask again...: > wot steering wheel should i be going for<snip> I can only speak for the MSFF, but as far as that's concerned: on the plus side, there's the fact that it's very compatible (I do have to admit that MS make damn good peripherals), pretty tough (compared to other "affordable" wheels, anyway) and - IMO at least - has a nice feel to it. (I don't drive IRL, so have no "baggage" from real cars of how a wheel should feel. That probably makes quite a big difference.) On the debit side of the ledger, it's undeniable that it is a bit of a resource hog - reports vary, but the USB version especially might lose you up to 5 fps on a slower system. I have that version, and on my old Celeron 500 dropped around 2 fps with FF on, but there's no noticeable hit at all on my current P4-1.5GHz. Another thing is that (as Andre says above) it does need a little while to "bed in". I suspect that it's an acquired taste, and that not everyone acquires it. Make sure you get one from somewhere with a decent returns policy, or even test it before you buy. Put it this way: I'm on my second MSFF, and if it collapsed today I'd be straight out to buy a third. For 100 pounds, there's nothing else I feel as comfortable with. If you buy the MSFF, unless you really can't get on with the "feel", you won't be making a big mistake - what it *isn't* is a *bad* wheel. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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