N2002 sound popping with SB Live

Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a terrible crackling sound in N2002. I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. Thanks, -- John Payne

Is 3D audio checked. You can try messing around with the SB settings. "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]...

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> > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > Thanks, > -- > John Payne > > >

If you have a VIA chipset main board, check your BIOS to make sure the "PCI to DRAM Prefetch" setting is Enabled. When it is disabled is can cause crackling. Read this on a VIA chipset message board awhile back? J. Janasov "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CF9b8.86922$[email hidden]...

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> Is 3D audio checked. You can try messing around with the SB settings. > > "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]... > > > > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > John Payne > > > > > > > >

Developed the same problem with my SB Live (MP3+5.1) after I upgraded to WinXP Pro running N4. I never could find a fix with drivers or bios, I ended up getting an SB Audigy and the problem went away. (also think the Via chipset on my mobo was involved...) N2002 now also sounds just fine. Good luck. John Payne <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]...

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> > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > Thanks, > -- > John Payne > > >

Excellent, I have this problem too, and can't wait to get home and try these settings out to see if they help me. "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4jgun$3lk4$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]... > > > > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > I made the following edits to the core.ini file on the demo, which > completely cured the poppping problem I had. I don't know if it works in > the full game as I don't have it yet. I'm thinking it will though. > > Sound] > allow_buffer_recreation=1 ; re-create sound buffers to > improve quality > enable_3d_interpolation=1 ; enable volume interpolation for > 3d sound > force_default_buffer_size=6 ; Set forced buffer size in 1/36 > second units. Define a value of 3 or larger > interpolationValue=0 > > John Cauthen > > >

"John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]...

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> > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > Thanks, > -- > John Payne

Turtle Beach Santa Cruz is a nice soundcard.

I'll second the Santa Cruz. Had a SB Audigy and was getting the crackling in N4 and the demo. Very clear now with the Santa Cruz. "lane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4k302$uke9$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]... > > > > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > John Payne > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz is a nice soundcard. > >

Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting a medal for this John, good work. Sound popping in Papyrus games goes back to ....maybe even N2. Thanks...post this every day ...:) dave henrie "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4jgun$3lk4$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]... > > > > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > I made the following edits to the core.ini file on the demo, which > completely cured the poppping problem I had. I don't know if it works in > the full game as I don't have it yet. I'm thinking it will though. > > Sound] > allow_buffer_recreation=1 ; re-create sound buffers to > improve quality > enable_3d_interpolation=1 ; enable volume interpolation for > 3d sound > force_default_buffer_size=6 ; Set forced buffer size in 1/36 > second units. Define a value of 3 or larger > interpolationValue=0 > > John Cauthen > > >

Well, I went a got a Hercules XP home theater board and it still does it, my problem must be elseware :( xp 1800 via chipset gforce 2 gts hercules xp home theater I going to go read the papy forums and see if I can find anything.. Thanks for everyones help. John

"John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]... > > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good Audio > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. I made the following edits to the core.ini file on the demo, which completely cured the poppping problem I had. I don't know if it works in the full game as I don't have it yet. I'm thinking it will though. Sound] allow_buffer_recreation=1 ; re-create sound buffers to improve quality enable_3d_interpolation=1 ; enable volume interpolation for 3d sound force_default_buffer_size=6 ; Set forced buffer size in 1/36 second units. Define a value of 3 or larger interpolationValue=0 John Cauthen

> Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting a > medal for this John, good work. I tried those settings in the full game, and the popping/crackling problem improved, but didn't go away entirely. It is quite a bit better though.

I enabled the "PCE to DRAM Prefetch" in my BIOS and the popping went away completely. ~J > > > Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting a > > medal for this John, good work. > > I tried those settings in the full game, and the popping/crackling problem > improved, but didn't go away entirely. It is quite a bit better though.

Good to hear, thought I was the only lucky one! J. Janasov "Jim Tester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4lpnh$72s$[email hidden]...

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> I enabled the "PCE to DRAM Prefetch" in my BIOS and the popping went away > completely. > > ~J > > > > > > Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting

a > > > medal for this John, good work. > > > > I tried those settings in the full game, and the popping/cracklingproblem > > improved, but didn't go away entirely. It is quite a bit better though. > > >

"John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%ijb8.963$[email hidden]...

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> Well, I went a got a Hercules XP home theater board and it still does it, > my problem must be elseware :( > > xp 1800 > via chipset > gforce 2 gts > hercules xp home theater > > I going to go read the papy forums and see if I can find anything.. > > Thanks for everyones help. > > John

Do you have ACPI enabled in your bios? I've read that ACPI can cause crackling on some systems. Also, if you have an option to adjust PCI latency in the mb bio then try playing around with that as I have also read this can be a cause of crackling sound too. SB Live! is known to rob the PCI bus and that is the most likely reason why people get crackling on that card.

"lane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4lu5s$184un$[email hidden]... > > "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%ijb8.963$[email hidden]... > > Well, I went a got a Hercules XP home theater board and it still doesit,

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> > my problem must be elseware :( > > > > xp 1800 > > via chipset > > gforce 2 gts > > hercules xp home theater > > > > I going to go read the papy forums and see if I can find anything.. > > > > Thanks for everyones help. > > > > John > > Do you have ACPI enabled in your bios? I've read that ACPI can cause > crackling on some systems. Also, if you have an option to adjust PCI

latency > in the mb bio then try playing around with that as I have also read thiscan > be a cause of crackling sound too. SB Live! is known to rob the PCI busand > that is the most likely reason why people get crackling on that card. > Be careful playing around with acpi settings, typically if you change it your going to want to reinstall windows or possibly have problems. Don Burnette

> I enabled the "PCE to DRAM Prefetch" in my BIOS and the popping went away > completely. I couldn't find that setting in my BIOS. (assuming you meant PCI-->DRAM prefetch). I've got a via chipset, award bios. I wonder if there's an equivalent setting?

I have the same question -- Can't find that setting in my BIOS. Mobo is an Epox 8Kha+. Can anyone give details on where to adjust this setting? Radio Flyer wrote:

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> > I enabled the "PCE to DRAM Prefetch" in my BIOS and the popping went away > > completely. > > I couldn't find that setting in my BIOS. (assuming you meant PCI-->DRAM > prefetch). > > I've got a via chipset, award bios. I wonder if there's an equivalent > setting?

I have the same question -- Can't find that setting in my BIOS. Mobo is an Epox 8Kha+. Can anyone give details on where to adjust this setting?

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> > I enabled the "PCE to DRAM Prefetch" in my BIOS and the popping went away > > completely. > I couldn't find that setting in my BIOS. (assuming you meant PCI-->DRAM > prefetch). > I've got a via chipset, award bios. I wonder if there's an equivalent > setting?

I have an Asus P3V4X with award bios, it's under the advanced chip configuration options, where SDRAM latency settings etc. are located. It's PCI to DRAM Prefetch. Good Luck J. Janasov "VFy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Can't find anything like this in my bios (Abit KR7A mobo). Assume PCE > is meant to be PCI. The core.ini advice posted earlier helped but now > the sounds pop in and out more often, which is another problem with > N2K2's sounds. > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:20:33 -0800, "Jim Tester" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I enabled the "PCE to DRAM Prefetch" in my BIOS and the popping went away > >completely. > > > >~J > > > >> > >> > Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting

a > >> > medal for this John, good work. > >> > >> I tried those settings in the full game, and the popping/cracklingproblem > >> improved, but didn't go away entirely. It is quite a bit better though. > > > > >

Try going with a higher number than 6 for the default buffer region Radio. At some point you'll see intolerable delays in causes and effects, however. I could have gone higher than 6 without causing a problem, but it turned out that 6 was the minimum number I could use. Delays set in at 12 or higher, if I recall. John Cauthen Sport Planet "Radio Flyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rmnb8.47841$[email hidden]...

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> > > Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting a > > medal for this John, good work. > > I tried those settings in the full game, and the popping/crackling problem > improved, but didn't go away entirely. It is quite a bit better though. > > > >

"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:igvb8.25506$[email hidden]... > Be careful playing around with acpi settings, typically if you change it > your going to want to reinstall windows or possibly have problems. > > Don Burnette True. I had a problem trying to switch midstream on XP. But I think there is a way around it if you really want to change it. Just requires a bit of searching on the web. I've disabled ACPI myself because all your cards must be ACPI compliant and implemented correctly, otherwise you will get problems with it. I've also read on one overclocking website that having ACPI enabled can cause frame rate slow down in games. Hard to believe, but that's what their tests showed.

Can this line in the core.ini file to the following and the crackling goes away on SBLIVE force_default_buffer_size=5

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3Nib8.67883$[email hidden]... > Can somebody confirm this with the full game? You could be getting a > medal for this John, good work. > Sound popping in Papyrus games goes back to ....maybe even N2. > Thanks...post this every day ...:) Dave, I've heard back from John Payne for the second time. The original setting of 6 caused an intolerable delay. He went back and changed it to 3 as I suggested in reply, and he says it now works! He took his Herculese card out and resinstalled the SB Live and all is well. I guess it takes a little experimenting depending on your system's configuration. John Cauthen

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> dave henrie > "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a4jgun$3lk4$[email hidden]... > > > > "John Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3k9b8.346$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Anybody have a good suggestion for a new sound card, my SB Live has a > > > terrible crackling sound in N2002. > > > I know this seems to be a common problem. So If anyone has a good

Audio > > > Card recommendation I think I will just go buy one. > > > > I made the following edits to the core.ini file on the demo, which > > completely cured the poppping problem I had. I don't know if it worksin > > the full game as I don't have it yet. I'm thinking it will though. > > > > Sound] > > allow_buffer_recreation=1 ; re-create sound buffers to > > improve quality > > enable_3d_interpolation=1 ; enable volume interpolationfor > > 3d sound > > force_default_buffer_size=6 ; Set forced buffer size in1/36

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> > second units. Define a value of 3 or larger > > interpolationValue=0 > > > > John Cauthen > > > > > > > >