NR2002 - is it the physics or the FFB that is improved so much...

...or both...or is the way better FFB a function of the physics? I can't believe how much "better" it feels compared to N4 on my system. Marc -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins [email hidden] Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? ****************************************************************************

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> ...or both...or is the way better FFB a function of the physics? I can't > believe how much "better" it feels compared to N4 on my system. > > Marc > > -- >

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My guess is its the more detailed tire model, Marc...... --Doug "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hAyb8.34694$[email hidden]...

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> ...or both...or is the way better FFB a function of the physics? I can't > believe how much "better" it feels compared to N4 on my system. > > Marc > > -- >

**************************************************************************** > Marc Collins > [email hidden] > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? >**************************************************************************** > >

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hAyb8.34694$[email hidden]... > ...or both...or is the way better FFB a function of the physics? I can't > believe how much "better" it feels compared to N4 on my system. > > Marc To be honest, I don't notice any difference in FF effect, it seems the same to me, i.e. weak. I'm using a MOMO Force.

FF seems a lot stronger to me then N4 I'm using a LWFF old red wheel one. "Jeff Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4mq9m$p4p$[email hidden]... > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hAyb8.34694$[email hidden]... > > ...or both...or is the way better FFB a function of the physics? Ican't

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> > believe how much "better" it feels compared to N4 on my system. > > > > Marc > > > > To be honest, I don't notice any difference in FF effect, it seems the

same > to me, i.e. weak. I'm using a MOMO Force. > >

For me the FF and the steering response feels slower than in N4, and it is more spiky on the road tracks than before. The physics feel better on the ovals, but I can't tell the difference at the road tracks. "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hAyb8.34694$[email hidden]... > ...or both...or is the way better FFB a function of the physics? Ican't > believe how much "better" it feels compared to N4 on my system. > > Marc > > -- >************************************************************************ **** > Marc Collins > [email hidden] > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? >************************************************************************ **** > >

On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:34:18 -0600, "Jeff Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote: >To be honest, I don't notice any difference in FF effect, it seems the same >to me, i.e. weak. I'm using a MOMO Force. That's weird Jeff, Momo here too and the FF is definately better and stronger than in N4. Have you set the FF strength in N2002 to 100%? (ok that was quite obvious but maybe you forgot). In windows itself I have the strength to 100%. Andre

On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:22:51 -0500, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote: >For me the FF and the steering response feels slower than in N4, and it >is more spiky on the road tracks than before. The physics feel better >on the ovals, but I can't tell the difference at the road tracks. No spikes at all here.. play with the damping and latency slider a bit, maybe that helps getting rid of the spikes. And about the slow response, have you set the wheel to linear (move the bar to the right) in the calib screen? A setting of 90 seems to work best for me. Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:34:18 -0600, "Jeff Jones" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >To be honest, I don't notice any difference in FF effect, it seems thesame

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> >to me, i.e. weak. I'm using a MOMO Force. > > That's weird Jeff, Momo here too and the FF is definately better and > stronger than in N4. Have you set the FF strength in N2002 to 100%? > (ok that was quite obvious but maybe you forgot). > In windows itself I have the strength to 100%. >

I have my Momo set to 120% in windows, and 100% in the game, feels good. Don Burnette

> >To be honest, I don't notice any difference in FF effect, it seems thesame > >to me, i.e. weak. I'm using a MOMO Force. > > That's weird Jeff, Momo here too and the FF is definately better and > stronger than in N4. Have you set the FF strength in N2002 to 100%? > (ok that was quite obvious but maybe you forgot). > In windows itself I have the strength to 100%. I have it set to 100% in the game, and 100% in Windows. I'll try Don suggestion of setting it to 120% in Windows.

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:02:42 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have my Momo set to 120% in windows, and 100% in the game, feels good. > >Don Burnette 100% in windows is more than enough for me.. I think I need to work out some more :-/ Andre

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:12:08 -0600, "Jeff Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have it set to 100% in the game, and 100% in Windows. I'll try Don >suggestion of setting it to 120% in Windows. BTW: with the old LWFF, the ff was -much- stronger when I set it on ID1 in windows controller settings instead of ID2. I don't know if it's the same with the Momo (or any ff wheel for that matter) but if you have the Momo on ID2, try setting it on ID1. Andre

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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:02:42 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >I have my Momo set to 120% in windows, and 100% in the game, feels good. > > > >Don Burnette > > 100% in windows is more than enough for me.. I think I need to work > out some more :-/ > > Andre

Lol, you ain't lived till you spin through the grass in N2002 with the above settings :). Don Burnette

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:49:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> 100% in windows is more than enough for me.. I think I need to work >> out some more :-/ >> >> Andre > >Lol, you ain't lived till you spin through the grass in N2002 with the above >settings :). > >Don Burnette

I tried 120% yesterday, but (as is the case with GPL) the ff becomes worse when you set it above 100%. With 100% I have no spiking, with 120% I have quite some spiking. Pretty cool though when you're in a crash and the wheel jumps allmost out of your hands :) Andre