N4 2002 Install Problems

Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't have much left to pull. Win98SE AMD 1600 512 Ram GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra Open GL or D3D DX 8.1 All updates done to OS & chipset drivers Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or shortly there after. Any suggestions? I have done everything but reinstall the OS. ALL other sims/games play fine. Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What kind of cdrom drive do you have? is it a cdrom burner? dave henrie "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't have much > left to pull. > > Win98SE > AMD 1600 > 512 Ram > GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra > Open GL or D3D > DX 8.1 > All updates done to OS & chipset drivers > > Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or shortly > there after. > > Any suggestions? > > I have done everything but reinstall the OS. > > ALL other sims/games play fine. > > Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >

Asus 52X Also an SBLive card. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dnGb8.74519$[email hidden]... > What kind of cdrom drive do you have? > is it a cdrom burner? > dave henrie > "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't havemuch

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> > left to pull. > > > > Win98SE > > AMD 1600 > > 512 Ram > > GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra > > Open GL or D3D > > DX 8.1 > > All updates done to OS & chipset drivers > > > > Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or shortly > > there after. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > I have done everything but reinstall the OS. > > > > ALL other sims/games play fine. > > > > Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > >

this may sound odd, but try disabling the 3dsound for your card. Either in the system control panel or even in N2 2002 itself...(if you can get that far...) Make sure your 52x is fully up to speed before cliking any 'ok' box, sometimes these faster drives take a few moments to spin up. dave henrie "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c6f38d2$[email hidden]...

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> Asus 52X > Also an SBLive card. > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dnGb8.74519$[email hidden]... > > What kind of cdrom drive do you have? > > is it a cdrom burner? > > dave henrie > > "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't have > much > > > left to pull. > > > > > > Win98SE > > > AMD 1600 > > > 512 Ram > > > GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra > > > Open GL or D3D > > > DX 8.1 > > > All updates done to OS & chipset drivers > > > > > > Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or

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> > > there after. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > I have done everything but reinstall the OS. > > > > > > ALL other sims/games play fine. > > > > > > Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >

Got it, WooooooHoooo!!!! I run Daemon tools, virtual CD. It appears when my install was trying to verify during the initial start-up it couldn't find the CD amongst the real CD drives and the virtual ones. I removed Daemon tools and my problems disappeared. I looked in the registry to try and point it to the correct drive, but there was no entry for what drive it was installed from. Must be some kind of CD check/verify. You would of thought it would say "please install the N4 2002 CD" rather than just lock up, but I guess that's too easy for papy/sierra. What did I expect, a working sim for $50.00???? Oh well, got it working. Just tinkering now to get the sounds and framerates where I want them. Thanks, Scott "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:beIb8.70377$fK1.4190457@rwcrnsc54... > this may sound odd, but try disabling the 3dsound for your card. Either > in the system control panel or even in N2 2002 itself...(if you can getthat

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> far...) > Make sure your 52x is fully up to speed before cliking any 'ok' box, > sometimes these faster drives take a few moments to spin up. > dave henrie > "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3c6f38d2$[email hidden]... > > Asus 52X > > Also an SBLive card. > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:dnGb8.74519$[email hidden]... > > > What kind of cdrom drive do you have? > > > is it a cdrom burner? > > > dave henrie > > > "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't

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> > much > > > > left to pull. > > > > > > > > Win98SE > > > > AMD 1600 > > > > 512 Ram > > > > GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra > > > > Open GL or D3D > > > > DX 8.1 > > > > All updates done to OS & chipset drivers > > > > > > > > Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or > shortly > > > > there after. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > I have done everything but reinstall the OS. > > > > > > > > ALL other sims/games play fine. > > > > > > > > Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think it's the copy protection (when will then learn?) having a problem with your hardware. I've found that NR2002 will lock up, guaranteed, if trying to use the ISO Image I made of the original CD and DaemonTools. This leads me to believe that the Copy Protection has been changed and is more invasive than ever. Larry "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't have much > left to pull. > > Win98SE > AMD 1600 > 512 Ram > GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra > Open GL or D3D > DX 8.1 > All updates done to OS & chipset drivers > > Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or shortly > there after. > > Any suggestions? > > I have done everything but reinstall the OS. > > ALL other sims/games play fine. > > Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >

Same here. I had to remove Daemon Tools as well. They have changed something in the Copy Protection and it's tripping things up :( -Larry "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c6f598d$[email hidden]... > Got it, WooooooHoooo!!!! > > I run Daemon tools, virtual CD. It appears when my install was trying to > verify during the initial start-up it couldn't find the CD amongst thereal > CD drives and the virtual ones. > > I removed Daemon tools and my problems disappeared. I looked in theregistry > to try and point it to the correct drive, but there was no entry for what > drive it was installed from. Must be some kind of CD check/verify. Youwould > of thought it would say "please install the N4 2002 CD" rather than just > lock up, but I guess that's too easy for papy/sierra. What did I expect, a > working sim for $50.00???? > > Oh well, got it working. Just tinkering now to get the sounds andframerates

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> where I want them. > > Thanks, > > Scott > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:beIb8.70377$fK1.4190457@rwcrnsc54... > > this may sound odd, but try disabling the 3dsound for your card.

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> > in the system control panel or even in N2 2002 itself...(if you can get > that > > far...) > > Make sure your 52x is fully up to speed before cliking any 'ok' box, > > sometimes these faster drives take a few moments to spin up. > > dave henrie > > "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3c6f38d2$[email hidden]... > > > Asus 52X > > > Also an SBLive card. > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:dnGb8.74519$[email hidden]... > > > > What kind of cdrom drive do you have? > > > > is it a cdrom burner? > > > > dave henrie > > > > "SKnarr49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Pulling my hair out trying to get N4 2002 to run.....and I don't > have > > > much > > > > > left to pull. > > > > > > > > > > Win98SE > > > > > AMD 1600 > > > > > 512 Ram > > > > > GF3 TI 500 (21.83 drivers) or GF2 Ultra > > > > > Open GL or D3D > > > > > DX 8.1 > > > > > All updates done to OS & chipset drivers > > > > > > > > > > Nothing seems to get me going, it locks up after calibration or > > shortly > > > > > there after. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > I have done everything but reinstall the OS. > > > > > > > > > > ALL other sims/games play fine. > > > > > > > > > > Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8vJb8.7822$[email hidden]...

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> I think it's the copy protection (when will then learn?) having a problem > with your hardware. > > I've found that NR2002 will lock up, guaranteed, if trying to use the ISO > Image I made of the original CD and DaemonTools. This leads me to believe > that the Copy Protection has been changed and is more invasive than ever. > > Larry

Send Sierra a bill for 2hrs. troubleshooting @$30.00 per hr.

"Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XvJb8.7823$[email hidden]... > Same here. I had to remove Daemon Tools as well. > > They have changed something in the Copy Protection and it's trippingthings > up :( > > -Larry it's just another salvo in the war between the publishers and the crackers....unfortunately, we the users are merely collateral damage caught in the crossfires... (how's that for trite, timely, cliched, commentary???) lol dave henrie