NR2K2 Fps issues with ATI 64MB DDR ViVo card.

Ok, I have a: Duron 700 SB Live Value SC ATI Radeon 64MB DDR ViVo VC 448MB PC133 SDRam Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2 USB Now, my real issue is offline racing. It sucks basically. I have tried all kinds of tweaks here and there and my fps get better by like 1 or 2. Not a big help. Online I can get 35-45 fps which is awesome to me. Offline I can only get like 12-15 and this is with car detail high, world medium, mirror medium, track objects some and drawing ahead 50% with full 42 cars with 20 ahead and 6 behind. There has to be something I can do to make offline racing better. I have the Radeonator but I cant seem to learn it too easy. Does anyone here have any suggestions? Im really ready to send this card back to them. Thanks Strangiato ByTor Motorsports League Administrator www.bytormotorsports.com

Strangiato <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok, I have a: > > Duron 700 > SB Live Value SC > ATI Radeon 64MB DDR ViVo VC > 448MB PC133 SDRam > Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2 USB > > Now, my real issue is offline racing. It sucks basically. I have tried all > kinds of tweaks here and there and my fps get better by like 1 or 2. Not a > big help. Online I can get 35-45 fps which is awesome to me. Offline I can > only get like 12-15 and this is with car detail high, world medium, mirror > medium, track objects some and drawing ahead 50% with full 42 cars with 20 > ahead and 6 behind. There has to be something I can do to make offline

racing > better. I have the Radeonator but I cant seem to learn it too easy. Does > anyone here have any suggestions? Im really ready to send this card backto > them. Thanks > > Strangiato > ByTor Motorsports > League Administrator > www.bytormotorsports.com I don't think it's the card- it's the CPU. I can run those settings on my system and maintain 55 or so fps with no trouble at 1024x768(you didn't mention a resolution)in OpenGL, using the latest Omega drivers. I think the difference is in the rest of the system- we have the same graphics card, but I'm using a 1.33 T-bird and only 256 MB of RAM. >

"Scott Moore"> I don't think it's the card- it's the CPU. I can run those settings on my > system and maintain 55 or so fps with no trouble at 1024x768(you didn't > mention a resolution)in OpenGL, using the latest Omega drivers. I thinkthe > difference is in the rest of the system- we have the same graphics card,but > I'm using a 1.33 T-bird and only 256 MB of RAM. > yessir, your cpu is holding you back. Maybe you could get together with the guy using the tnt and a 1.4 cpu and build ONE good box... dave henrie > > > > >

you should be thankful you're getting those FPS with that processor. "Strangiato" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok, I have a: > > Duron 700 > SB Live Value SC > ATI Radeon 64MB DDR ViVo VC > 448MB PC133 SDRam > Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2 USB > > Now, my real issue is offline racing. It sucks basically. I have tried all > kinds of tweaks here and there and my fps get better by like 1 or 2. Not a > big help. Online I can get 35-45 fps which is awesome to me. Offline I can > only get like 12-15 and this is with car detail high, world medium, mirror > medium, track objects some and drawing ahead 50% with full 42 cars with 20 > ahead and 6 behind. There has to be something I can do to make offline

racing > better. I have the Radeonator but I cant seem to learn it too easy. Does > anyone here have any suggestions? Im really ready to send this card backto > them. Thanks > > Strangiato > ByTor Motorsports > League Administrator > www.bytormotorsports.com

Strangiato <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok, I have a: > > Duron 700 > SB Live Value SC > ATI Radeon 64MB DDR ViVo VC > 448MB PC133 SDRam > Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2 USB > > Now, my real issue is offline racing. It sucks basically. I have tried all > kinds of tweaks here and there and my fps get better by like 1 or 2. Not a > big help. Online I can get 35-45 fps which is awesome to me. Offline I can > only get like 12-15 and this is with car detail high, world medium, mirror > medium, track objects some and drawing ahead 50% with full 42 cars with 20 > ahead and 6 behind. There has to be something I can do to make offline

racing > better. I have the Radeonator but I cant seem to learn it too easy. Does > anyone here have any suggestions? Im really ready to send this card backto > them. Thanks > > Strangiato > ByTor Motorsports > League Administrator > www.bytormotorsports.com What OS? What vid card drivers? Latest for the card I am guessing. What renderer? OpenGL does not support texture compression as of yet and D3D is typically the lower performing of the 2 hardware APIs. Best thing to do is turn the amount of cars down in front, I never need more than about 15 cars drawn ahead, and usually no more than about 4 or 5 behind. If I had to guess I'd say that the CPU is woefully underpowered (never listen to Papy about specs), and that video card sounds old. Even with 64mb of RAM, RAM isn't everything, newer drivers may help. The sound card may actually be hindering you too, I had a SB Live MP3+5.1 and was never happy with it's performance with an AMD processor (which usually meant a Via chipset) and ended up with a Sb Audigy with no more probs. To be honest, I have a 1.2ghz AMD with 512MB of RAM with a GF3 and can only manage between 50-70FPS online in traffic (with similar numbers offline) and I routinely got over 90FPS in N4 so it isn't just you taking a hit. My days of seeing 100+FPS alone on the track have also disappeared...

In article <SAAc8.89586$fK1.4225451@rwcrnsc54>, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> writes

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> >"Scott Moore"> I don't think it's the card- it's the CPU. I can run those >settings on my >> system and maintain 55 or so fps with no trouble at 1024x768(you didn't >> mention a resolution)in OpenGL, using the latest Omega drivers. I think >the >> difference is in the rest of the system- we have the same graphics card, >but >> I'm using a 1.33 T-bird and only 256 MB of RAM. >> > yessir, your cpu is holding you back. Maybe you could get together with >the guy using the tnt and a 1.4 cpu and build ONE good box...

Or perhaps overclocking it is an option. Not sure how much improvement this could make though. +4-5 fps@1GHz? -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email

In article <%KBc8.16334$[email hidden]>, "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> writes: >> Strangiato >> ByTor Motorsports >> League Administrator >> www.bytormotorsports.com *Obviously* a Rush fan...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>In article <%KBc8.16334$[email hidden]>, "SimRacer" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>> Strangiato >>> ByTor Motorsports >>> League Administrator >>> www.bytormotorsports.com > >*Obviously* a Rush fan...<g> > >Eldred

Eldred, How did you guess> lol :) Strangiato ByTor Motorsports League Administrator www.bytormotorsports.com

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Strangiato) writes: >>*Obviously* a Rush fan...<g> >> >>Eldred > >Eldred, >How did you guess> lol :) Takes one to KNOW one...<g> I just renamed two of my servers a couple of weeks ago. I called one ByTor, and the other SnowDog...<go figure> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I have the same card, though a faster processor and fps isn't an issue. As long as I'm getting in the 30 area I'm happy and I get that at 1024x768 16bit. Some things to try; Be sure you're in 16 bit color not 32 bit Turn off antriscopoc filtering in the game Turn reflections off for a big FPS increase Make sure the sounds heard are down to 8 Also In the core.ini: Change the Maximum Block Size RAM x 1024 change Max.grabs_per update_track view from 4 to 8 (This one made a huge difference for me) In the Player.ini, changed pic quality from -1 to 100. Be sure to backup your core.ini file before making any changes. I found some of this stuff in this thread, which I suggest you give a read... http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~team-lightspeed/board/showthread.php3?s=56f19baaada790bc2a9e9e8e9c354506&threadid=6647