What's happened with GP3?

In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best one i've found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? Guillermo

Main reason for me, is that the cars are all the same. No performance difference. That, and no online racing :) -John "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4v80a$pnk$[email hidden]... > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best onei've

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> found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > > Guillermo > >

We did talk about it back in 1996 when it was called GP2 : ) All kidding aside, GP3 appears to have fallen out of favour with r.a.s. as many, myself included, found it dated (25.6 fps!!, blocky graphics, crappy multiplayer) and too similar to its predecessor. I was excited when I got it, but after a few hours I realized it was the exact same game (with some window dressing) I had played to death a few years earlier. So, like many in here, I turned my attention to GPL. Papyrus has done a great job with GPL (as all the beautiful mods available will attest). That was a game that was ahead of its time. I keep hoping they'll revisit the Indycar series or release the ICR2 source code (like ID has done with Doom, Quake, etc..). Jeneral "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4v80a$pnk$[email hidden]... > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best onei've

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> found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > > Guillermo > >

"GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4v80a$pnk$[email hidden]... > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best onei've > found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > > Guillermo GP3 was regarded by many around here as a dissapointment. Yes it drives well, but has some major glaring ommisions. No real multiplayer being a big problem around here. It was also a problem of big expectations that may have not be totally fulfilled and thus left a taste of 'what could have been.' I'm sure you will still find many many users who prefer GP3 vs F1 2001 and F1RC. But with GP4 coming out in a couple of months, I think most users here have moved on. dave henrie

So far as I can see, most messages posted in RAS fall into the category of: * GPL is fantastic, I'm so excited, etc, * I'm having a problem with xxx (where xxx = the most recently released game), * I love/hate xxx (where xxx = the most recently released game), * Hardware issues. Note - there might be others that I don't know about - my killfile is quite large. GP3 is a fine game. It doesn't fall into any of these categories, so there aren't many posts. Feel free to start up a thread. "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4v80a$pnk$[email hidden]... > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best onei've

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> found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > > Guillermo > >

I walked by my dad's computer earlier tonight, with my brother on it...looked like he was playing GP2 again... "Oh, dusted off Grand Prix 2?" "Nah, downloaded GP3." I had to look VERY closely...but yep, it's this >< much above GP2... Very disappointing, IMO. Milhouse "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4v80a$pnk$[email hidden]... > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best onei've

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> found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > > Guillermo > >

>"GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote >Why do you never talk about it? Because it's not the best, nor the most realistic, nore the most playable, nor the one with very good graphics. Oh, perhaps I'll agree it has lots of third-party utilities and enhancements, but it will always be flawed at it's core. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"MarkT" <[email hidden]> wrote > Note - there might be others that I don't know about - my killfile isquite > large. You are so 3733+, we worship y0|_|. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 05:19:41 +0100, "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Grand Prix Legends...and The best one i've >found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very :D Andre

i suppose there's not much talk about it because it doesn't make enough technical trouble, and it's slowly getting old too (but that's no real reason). all the wonderful tools and stuff were available within weeks after it's been published, so there isn't much to add anymore. "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:a4v80a$pnk$[email hidden]... > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best onei've

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> found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > > Guillermo > >

aren't you exaggerating a little bit ? ;) at least you can see the moving wheel from the other corner of the room, if you were not totally drunk ;)

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> I walked by my dad's computer earlier tonight, with my brother on > it...looked like he was playing GP2 again... > > "Oh, dusted off Grand Prix 2?" > "Nah, downloaded GP3." > > I had to look VERY closely...but yep, it's this >< much above GP2... >

does the official season cd improve the graphics any? "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 05:19:41 +0100, "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Grand Prix Legends...and The best one i've > >found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable,very > > :D > > Andre

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:56:09 -0000, "Steephen White" <[email hidden]> wrote: >does the official season cd improve the graphics any? I don't think the graphics were really improved with the 2000 update. But the physics were improved, along with a couple of other things which I can't remember now. I hated GP3 but I really liked GP3 2000. Untill F1 2001 came along, after playing that, GP3 2000 feels 'dead'. PS After watching the screenshots of GP4, I don't think the graphics in GP4 will be much better too.. I don't know, but I have a bad feeling about GP4 :-/ Andre

GUILLERMO LOPEZ wrote:

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> > In this newsgroup...maybe tou don't like it, i have played F1RC, F1-2001, > SCGT, LeMans24h, all NFS, MGPRS2,Grand Prix Legends...and The best one i've > found(so far) is Grand Prix 3, the most realistic, the most playable, very > good graphics, a lot of internet patches and add-ons, regularly updated. I > think it's the best of all, Why do you never talk about it? > > Guillermo

Two words. No multiplayer. -- Fester "Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?" from alt.linux.mandrake NG

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> >"MarkT" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Note - there might be others that I don't know about - my killfile is > quite > > large. > > > You are so 3733+, we worship y0|_|.

You DO realize he won't see this post don't you? <g>

First of all I like GP2, by the second, it's terribly different, second one is more playable, graphics are so faster, it includes different weather situations. It the most real of all. Guillermo

Hehehehe, true that. =) But aside from that...the GP2 feel is identical...the way the cars "move" (or don't) hasn't changed one iota...sounds...the old school way of faking 3d... Milhouse "Stefan Roth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1014198639.907706@nbgm66x... > aren't you exaggerating a little bit ? ;) > at least you can see the moving wheel from the other corner of the room,if

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> you were not totally drunk ;) > > > I walked by my dad's computer earlier tonight, with my brother on > > it...looked like he was playing GP2 again... > > > > "Oh, dusted off Grand Prix 2?" > > "Nah, downloaded GP3." > > > > I had to look VERY closely...but yep, it's this >< much above GP2... > > > > >

I never said GP2 is bad. It's what, 8 years old? For a game that old, it rocks. The problem is, GP3 looks like it might be 6 years old, if even that. GPL looks leaps and bounds better. The comparison between GP3 and GP2 is a lot more like N2002 vs N4 or N1999 vs N2, and a lot less like N4 vs N3 / N3 vs N2 / N2 vs N1. Even N3, while still on the same old engine, added some vastly improved graphics, especially the smoke and dirt effects (which I also prefer to GP3). I think Crammond probably finished GP3 years ago...then it got lost in the mail after it went gold and finally got delivered to the publisher a few years late. =P Milhouse "GUILLERMO LOPEZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a50vqs$3hn$[email hidden]... > > First of all I like GP2, by the second, it's terribly different, secondone > is more playable, graphics are so faster, it includes different weather > situations. It the most real of all. > > Guillermo > >

In article <1014198639.907706@nbgm66x>, "Stefan Roth" <[email hidden]> writes: >aren't you exaggerating a little bit ? ;) >at least you can see the moving wheel from the other corner of the room, if >you were not totally drunk ;) Maybe his brother turned the wheel OFF...? :) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> >aren't you exaggerating a little bit ? ;) > >at least you can see the moving wheel from the other corner of the room,if > >you were not totally drunk ;) > > Maybe his brother turned the wheel OFF...? > :) maybe...could be he turned off his brain as well ? :) > > Eldred > --

"Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JwGc8.62798$[email hidden]...

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> I walked by my dad's computer earlier tonight, with my brother on > it...looked like he was playing GP2 again... > > "Oh, dusted off Grand Prix 2?" > "Nah, downloaded GP3." > > I had to look VERY closely...but yep, it's this >< much above GP2... > > Very disappointing, IMO. >

Well, I think you exaggerate. If you ever run GP2 and GP3 back to back it's quite an obvious and appreciable step up in overall game play and graphics quality. What's strange about GP3 is the glaring contrasts in quality of execution. On the one hand you have bitmap tires, pixelly bits here and there, and bizarre clipping. This is all a legacy of the old engine with a token effort at 3D support painted on at the end. On the other hand, some of the textures in GP3 look superb (in my opinion). The roadside banners on the S/F straights look crisper in GP3 than in F1-2001 on everything but the "full" setting in EA's title, and GP3 was running on an 8Mb card. F1-2001 has wiped GP3 off my HD, but I'm quite interested in what GP4 will be like. Personally, I like the rather "organic" look of the screenshots so far, and the details in some of the buildings and distant scenery (tufts of grass at the bottoms of fences, irregular sand patches) is quite nice if you really take a look at it. Stephen