Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cd excessively,
both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a
race......sometimes, I'll be into the Qualifying before the thing finally
winds down. Cd drive makes some strange noises while it is first spinning up
to load the program as well, but hey, I'm just glad it loads. Drive is a
Sony CD-RW CRX160-E, in a Win XP Pro box, Plll @ 1G, 256 m pc133 Ram, 64m
Geforce2 GTS/Pro, v21.83, 23.11, 27.42 drivers, depending on the phase of
the moon........Game runs fairly well, 60+ fps looking OK, in OpenGL. Just
curious about all the cd noise.
Thanks, Ed
"Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cdexcessively,
> both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a
> race......
What you're likely hearing is the drive gagging on the disc's error
protection. If you go into Event Viewer you'll probably see CD-ROM bad
block errors occuring at that time.
Some drives are worse than others... my DVD drive freaks out but my CD-RW is
a lot better.
Dale.
I've used both my dvd rom drive and my cdrw drive, either will spin up for maybe 30 secs when
launching N4/NR2002(whichever drive the disk is in), and never spins up again until next exit and
relaunch.
--
Biz
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alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash
Ed White <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cd excessively,
> both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a
> race......sometimes, I'll be into the Qualifying before the thing finally
> winds down. Cd drive makes some strange noises while it is first spinning up
> to load the program as well, but hey, I'm just glad it loads. Drive is a
> Sony CD-RW CRX160-E, in a Win XP Pro box, Plll @ 1G, 256 m pc133 Ram, 64m
> Geforce2 GTS/Pro, v21.83, 23.11, 27.42 drivers, depending on the phase of
> the moon........Game runs fairly well, 60+ fps looking OK, in OpenGL. Just
> curious about all the cd noise.
> Thanks, Ed
>
>
Isn't that what no_CD hacks were made for?
"Dale Green" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> a lot better.
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> Dale.
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> > "Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3LTg8.59861$[email hidden]... > > Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cd > excessively, > > both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a > > race...... > > What you're likely hearing is the drive gagging on the disc's error > protection. If you go into Event Viewer you'll probably see CD-ROM bad > block errors occuring at that time. > > Some drives are worse than others... my DVD drive freaks out but my CD-RWOn Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:47:08 GMT, "Steve Smith"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Isn't that what no_CD hacks were made for?
No multiplayer with a no-cd hack in N2002 :-/
Andre
On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:07:15 -0500, HeaderFile <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I agree, only that in championship mode i've had 2 races in a row that
>would not "save" properly (allowing me to advance to the next race in
>the season) after I finished so I had to rerun them with the proper
>executable.
Are you sure that's because of the no-cd hack? I read a couple of
vague 'could not save' posts, it rather seems to be a bug in n2002..
Andre
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:30:22 -0800, "Dale Green"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
With my DVD drive I could only start the game ONCE. If I exited the
game and tried to re-launch it my DVD drive just made all sorts of
terrible noises and the game would never launch. I could not even
eject the CD. I would have to do a hard re-boot to get back into the
game. I put the CD in my cdrw drive and it seems to work fine in
there. Very annoying however.
By the way, N4 worked fine although if I launched the game from the
autostart menu that comes up when you insert the CD it would lock up
my system.
Brian Oster
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> >"Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:3LTg8.59861$[email hidden]... >> Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cd >excessively, >> both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a >> race...... > >What you're likely hearing is the drive gagging on the disc's error >protection. If you go into Event Viewer you'll probably see CD-ROM bad >block errors occuring at that time. > >Some drives are worse than others... my DVD drive freaks out but my CD-RW is >a lot better. > >Dale. >You could always go out and buy a cheap normal CD-ROM to install, this
way you could use the cheap drive all the time instead of the CD-RW.
This may also allow you to do CD-CD copies on the fly.
SLG
"Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cd excessively, >both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a >race......sometimes, I'll be into the Qualifying before the thing finally >winds down. Cd drive makes some strange noises while it is first spinning up >to load the program as well, but hey, I'm just glad it loads. Drive is a >Sony CD-RW CRX160-E, in a Win XP Pro box, Plll @ 1G, 256 m pc133 Ram, 64m >Geforce2 GTS/Pro, v21.83, 23.11, 27.42 drivers, depending on the phase of >the moon........Game runs fairly well, 60+ fps looking OK, in OpenGL. Just >curious about all the cd noise. >Thanks, Ed > >Ed White wrote:
Yea, as the others said, it is the copy protection screwing with your cdrom
drive. These game pulishers are real assholes for putting *paying*
customers through this bullshit.I bought a new DVD drive yesterday and made
sure it has no problems with copy protected disks first so I bought a
Liteon LTD163 which is known to have no problems with copy protection.
Played N2002 using it last night and no problem like you describe. EA and
Sierra are the two biggest offenders when it comes to copy protection
schemes.They make you enter a code and then still put offensive copy
protection schemes on the cdrom that won't work on many cdrom/DVD/cdrw
drives. And they know it too.
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> Hi all, has anyone else had a problem with 2002 spinning the cd > excessively, both before the program loads as well as after I've begun a > race......sometimes, I'll be into the Qualifying before the thing finally > winds down. Cd drive makes some strange noises while it is first spinning > up to load the program as well, but hey, I'm just glad it loads. Drive is > a Sony CD-RW CRX160-E, in a Win XP Pro box, Plll @ 1G, 256 m pc133 Ram, > 64m Geforce2 GTS/Pro, v21.83, 23.11, 27.42 drivers, depending on the phase > of the moon........Game runs fairly well, 60+ fps looking OK, in OpenGL. > Just curious about all the cd noise. > Thanks, EdMmmm, that's a serious consideration. Online isn't the main thing, it's
everything.
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> On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:47:08 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Isn't that what no_CD hacks were made for? > > No multiplayer with a no-cd hack in N2002 :-/ > > Andre >*cough* www.daemon-tools.com *cough*
1) just do an image dump with 'ddump' (freeware, search google)
2) load the image in daemon-tools (more freeware). no checkmarks, no
nothing.
3) keep cd in the jewel case where it belongs.
This works like a charm with all multiplayer games that require the cd to be
in the drive (i.e. all of today's games). I do this for NR2002, Diablo2,
etc.
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> Mmmm, that's a serious consideration. Online isn't the main thing, it's > everything. > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:47:08 GMT, "Steve Smith" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Isn't that what no_CD hacks were made for? > > > > No multiplayer with a no-cd hack in N2002 :-/ > > > > Andre > > > >no text, damnit!
Normally I would recommend this too, but NR2002 crashes when run from an ISO
with DaemonTools. First time any CD has ever given me trouble with
DaemonTools :(
-Larry
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> *cough* www.daemon-tools.com *cough* > > 1) just do an image dump with 'ddump' (freeware, search google) > 2) load the image in daemon-tools (more freeware). no checkmarks, no > nothing. > 3) keep cd in the jewel case where it belongs. > > This works like a charm with all multiplayer games that require the cd toQuoted text (23 lines)
> in the drive (i.e. all of today's games). I do this for NR2002, Diablo2, > etc. > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_rah8.45285$[email hidden]... > > Mmmm, that's a serious consideration. Online isn't the main thing, it's > > everything. > > > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:47:08 GMT, "Steve Smith" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >Isn't that what no_CD hacks were made for? > > > > > > No multiplayer with a no-cd hack in N2002 :-/ > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > >I run N2002 from an image file I made with cloneCD mounted in Dameon. Runs
great. I checked the 2 read subchannel boxes in CloneCD. I have 3 grandsons
and having cd's lying around is not an option.
Don
"Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Normally I would recommend this too, but NR2002 crashes when run from anISO
to
> be
> > in the drive (i.e. all of today's games). I do this for NR2002,Diablo2,
> > etc.
> >
> > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:_rah8.45285$[email hidden]...
> > > Mmmm, that's a serious consideration. Online isn't the main thing,it's
> > > everything.
> > >
> > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote inmessage
