This is starting to PISS ME OFF!

Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACK ON.. I get this error. I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google had a few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, and a 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. grrrr dave henrie

where do you get the 27.xx's from? All I see at the nvidia site is 23.11 Dave Henrie wrote:

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> Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator > 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACK ON.. > I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google had a > few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, and a > 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. > grrrr > dave henrie > > >

"Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > where do you get the 27.xx's from? All I see at the nvidia site is 23.11 > > Dave Henrie wrote: Here is one place: http://www.f1gamers.com/f1/misc/link.php?link=http://www.guru3d.com/files/de tonator that all should be on one line,...I hope... if not go to f1.gamers.com and you should find links there. dave henrie

" I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. that should have read the dx video adapters are NOT found...

So it wont work with a tnt2? Dave Henrie wrote:

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> " I > >>get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. >> > that should have read the dx video adapters are NOT found... > > >

What? I thought you had a Voodoo5! Have you tried any of the Detenator Destroyer or Nvidia Remover programs? Have you reinstalled DX8? You do switch to standard VGA prior to changing drivers? SLG "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator >27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I >get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACK ON.. >I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google had a >few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, and a >12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. >grrrr >dave henrie > >

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

I'm running the 27.42 drivers without any trouble. Whenever I upgrade the drivers, though, I first manually switch over to the Standard VGA display adapter, then delete all references to NVIDIA in the registry and elsewhere before rebooting and trying to load the new detonators. Haven't tried the 'destroyer' utility you refer to, but you way want to scrap that and try manually getting rid of the old drivers. As far as I know, NVIDIA drivers and related files all start with the letters 'nv', so I just search for those files (search --> files/folders --> 'nv*') and then delete them more or less wholesale (then I run Regedit to remove the NVIDIA registry keys). Good luck, itazura "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M5_g8.3901$[email hidden]... > Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator > 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACKON.. > I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google hada > few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, anda > 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. > grrrr > dave henrie > >

Dave Henrie wrote: > > " I >> get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > that should have read the dx video adapters are NOT found... You still haven't got a new PS, have you? If it's not PS then maybe it is some Bios setting causing you grief. Set AGP aperature to a different setting, turn off fast writes. Maybe do a format and clean install of windows, it could be the probelm is being caused by driver remnnants of your V5.

Hi Dave, I'm fishing in the dark now, because I don't know which other drivers worked on your system before you installed the 27.70 etc., but here's what I'd like to contribute: The 27.70 drivers don't work for all GF cards, only for a few. The reason being, their inf-file doesn't contain entries for the other cards - which is a mandatory prerequisite for the drivers to find the card and recognize it as a valid 3d card at all. Therefor, this could account for the message you get - due to the missing entries in the inf file, your card simply doesn't get recognized. Maybe for some reason that inf-file gets re-used (maybe because it has a newer date, I don't know, or maybe you're going the wrong way about reinstalling the drivers - newer Windows versions have their secret ways of keeping old driver installations, and restoring new ones to their original state - I don't know. Anyway, the solution would be to look into the archive in which you received the 27.70 drivers and that of the 27.42 drivers as well, and, in addition to deleting everything from the Registry as described by someone else in this thread, go to Windows\inf and delete all inf files having names identical to those you've found in the two archives from this inf directory and its subdirectories. AAMOF, you'd only do this with files found in the 27.70 archive, but just to be sure... After you've done that, try a reinstall of the drivers that came with your card. Preferrably, use the 'setup.exe' on the CD, as that setup may more radically overwrite everything else and thus restore the original state. Just a suggestion, sorry if this doesn't work. Achim "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M5_g8.3901$[email hidden]... > Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator > 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACKON.. > I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google hada > few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, anda > 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. > grrrr > dave henrie > >

Dave, I think you should scrub ALL nvidia driver files from your system as outlined in the GeForce FAQ, and reinstall a complete new driver set. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M5_g8.3901$[email hidden]... > Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator > 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACKON.. > I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google hada > few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, anda > 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. > grrrr > dave henrie > >

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M5_g8.3901$[email hidden]... > Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator > 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACKON.. > I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google hada > few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, anda > 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. > grrrr > dave henrie > > Dave, If you haven't done so already - as much as I hate to say it - you may need to reinstall Windows. Format and reinstall, or reinstall to a new directory. I had a V5, and picked up one of the GF3 Ti200's when they first came out to test it. Experimented with some new drivers for it and overclocking the card, etc. - and when running 3DMark one time, I lost all my textures and then had all kinds of weird stuff happen after that. The card sometimes seemed to not even show up as an AGP card, etc. Reinstalling drivers and removing them didn't do anything. It seemed like I had an old PCI SVGA card in there as far as the system was concerned. Sometimes 3D worked, sometimes it didn't. Even 2D was whacked - sometimes it'd boot up in 640x480x16 colors, others at my normal res So I reinstalled Win 98 from scratch to a new directory, and have since then never had a problem with various drivers. Using 27.xx something now, was using the 23.11's and the 21.85's before that - I've switched to other ones and gone back to these without any hiccups. The GF3 was smoking the V5 in N4, once it actually "worked". I think some of our reviews from a few months back stating the V5 was faster in N4 were done on a system that wasn't fully flushed of the 3dfx stuff, and was not ever kicking the GF3 out of second gear. I think something deep in the bowels of Windows really, really dislikes going from a 3dfx card to an nVidia one. When I installed the GF3, I ran one of the "remove all voodoo files" utils, set the card to VGA, put in the GF3, installed the drivers - and it did run ok for a while. While that should've worked fine, it didn't apparently. When all else has failed....you may want to give that a shot, painful as it is. Remember too, just install Windows to a different directory - and you don't need to format. You do have to reinstall all your programs, but all your data is right there where you left it. -- 9/11/01....Never forget Ken

Thanks... I'll be trying those suggestions. dave henrie "Ken Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cPdh8.5410$[email hidden]... > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:M5_g8.3901$[email hidden]... > > Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M5_g8.3901$[email hidden]... > Nowww none of the 3d programs will run. After changing from Detonator > 27.70 to 27.42 none of the programs that were working will even start. I > get an odd error message, that DX8 video adapters are found. > Even after using the detonator destroyer AND putting the 27.70's bACKON.. > I get this error. > I remember somebody else had this problem. Any fixes? Deja/google hada > few threads...those basically said it was a heat issue...case is off, anda > 12 inch desk fan is blowing full bore into it.. > grrrr > dave henrie pshaw.....nvidiots! sorry, didn't you coin that term? couldn't help myself.....hope these guys are helping you out and you acheive nvidarhma or something..... hang in there. rob

"rb" > pshaw.....nvidiots! > > > sorry, didn't you coin that term? couldn't help myself.....hope theseguys > are helping you out and you acheive nvidarhma or something..... > > hang in there. > > rob no I cannot claim credit for that....but I may have brought it in here... takes one to know one I guess............ dave henrie