How much better is N2002 than N4
I didn't think the screen shots looked all that much better
N4 runs great on my
abit kr7a raid
amd 1700
ati aiw 32 meg radeon
SB live
512 2100 ddr memory
how well will n2002 run on this system?
>"Johnny Mac" <[email hidden]> wrote
> how well will n2002 run on this system?
You won't have any problem running NR2002, be sure of that <G>
It runs on my poor P3-500, I mean why wouldn't it run well on your good PC?
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The improvements are not just in the looks. It's the physics, sound,
everything really. If the patch fixes the textures on a KyroII and the
engine sound cutting out on the SBLive, I'll be a happy camper.
My system gets the same FPS (28-70fps in 1024 32-bit) as it did in N4
and I'm running a AMD 1.3Ghz with a KyroII.
Johnny Mac wrote:
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> > How much better is N2002 than N4 > I didn't think the screen shots looked all that much better > > N4 runs great on my > abit kr7a raid > amd 1700 > ati aiw 32 meg radeon > SB live > 512 2100 ddr memory > > how well will n2002 run on this system?100% better IMO. What N4 should have been to begin with.
Got rid of N4 already on eBay myself.
-John
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> How much better is N2002 than N4 > I didn't think the screen shots looked all that much better > > N4 runs great on my > abit kr7a raid > amd 1700 > ati aiw 32 meg radeon > SB live > 512 2100 ddr memory > > how well will n2002 run on this system? > > > > >Is it worth the purchase if you all ready have N4? Well it probably
depends. For me it was well worth it since N4 was about the only game
I have played for the last year. What I really wanted from N4 was a
better damage model, and better AI. N2002 has a much improved damage
model (AI cars that wreck actually have to drop out of the race now),
and the AI *appears to possibly be improved*. I am a little hesitant
to give the AI a full thumbs up yet because I have still seen some
problems and I haven't yet tried to race at Bristol or Martinsville
and have really only raced at Daytona, NC and a little bit of Atlanta
in N2002. From what I have seen so far it is a mixed bag. I still
saw problems with the AI entering the pits. I did actually have some
yellows caused by the AI (without me involved) at Daytona and NC which
was great. I got sick of every stop in N4 being a green flag stop.
There are a few other issues that I hoped would be fixed or improved
in N2002 but still remain.
Performance for me was about the same. I got slightly better FPS in
N4 (both using the same graphics settings). I run OpenGL at
1280x960x16 and to me the graphics look about the same. Direct3D does
look much better but I get better FPS using OpenGL. Sound is much
improved all though the sound mod that was put out by someone who
extracted the sounds from the N2002 demo were, IMO, just as good if
not better. I have a SB live and I did have some sound issues but I
think I have them fixed for the most part.
Other improvements I like... The player manager now seems to work (I
had problems with it in n4). I like the ability to restart any one of
the four parts of a race without having to abandon and restart the
race (there is a bug however with a saved event in the season mode).
On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:11:14 GMT, "Johnny Mac" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Brian Oster
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>How much better is N2002 than N4 >I didn't think the screen shots looked all that much better > >N4 runs great on my >abit kr7a raid >amd 1700 >ati aiw 32 meg radeon >SB live >512 2100 ddr memory > >how well will n2002 run on this system? > > > >thanks Brian,
very detailed post I'll have to think about it
I have bought every version of this simulator
that Papyrus was involved with all the way back to NASCAR I
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> Is it worth the purchase if you all ready have N4? Well it probably > depends. For me it was well worth it since N4 was about the only game > I have played for the last year. What I really wanted from N4 was a > better damage model, and better AI. N2002 has a much improved damage > model (AI cars that wreck actually have to drop out of the race now), > and the AI *appears to possibly be improved*. I am a little hesitant > to give the AI a full thumbs up yet because I have still seen some > problems and I haven't yet tried to race at Bristol or Martinsville > and have really only raced at Daytona, NC and a little bit of Atlanta > in N2002. From what I have seen so far it is a mixed bag. I still > saw problems with the AI entering the pits. I did actually have some > yellows caused by the AI (without me involved) at Daytona and NC which > was great. I got sick of every stop in N4 being a green flag stop. > There are a few other issues that I hoped would be fixed or improved > in N2002 but still remain. > > Performance for me was about the same. I got slightly better FPS in > N4 (both using the same graphics settings). I run OpenGL at > 1280x960x16 and to me the graphics look about the same. Direct3D does > look much better but I get better FPS using OpenGL. Sound is much > improved all though the sound mod that was put out by someone who > extracted the sounds from the N2002 demo were, IMO, just as good if > not better. I have a SB live and I did have some sound issues but I > think I have them fixed for the most part. > > Other improvements I like... The player manager now seems to work (I > had problems with it in n4). I like the ability to restart any one of > the four parts of a race without having to abandon and restart the > race (there is a bug however with a saved event in the season mode). > > > On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:11:14 GMT, "Johnny Mac" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >How much better is N2002 than N4 > >I didn't think the screen shots looked all that much better > > > >N4 runs great on my > >abit kr7a raid > >amd 1700 > >ati aiw 32 meg radeon > >SB live > >512 2100 ddr memory > > > >how well will n2002 run on this system? > > > > > > > > > > Brian Oster >Hey Johnny. Both Circuit City and CompUSA have NR2002 on sale for $30 after
a $15 instant and $5 mail in rebate. It's well worth it. I was one of the
many that paid full price for it when it first came out and can express no
regrets in spending the extra bucks, so...if you can grab one for $20
less...:-)
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> thanks Brian,
> very detailed post I'll have to think about it
> I have bought every version of this simulator
> that Papyrus was involved with all the way back to NASCAR I
>
>
> "Brian Oster" <bgoster@*remove_to_email*swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > Is it worth the purchase if you all ready have N4? Well it probably
> > depends. For me it was well worth it since N4 was about the only game
> > I have played for the last year. What I really wanted from N4 was a
> > better damage model, and better AI. N2002 has a much improved damage
> > model (AI cars that wreck actually have to drop out of the race now),
> > and the AI *appears to possibly be improved*. I am a little hesitant
> > to give the AI a full thumbs up yet because I have still seen some
> > problems and I haven't yet tried to race at Bristol or Martinsville
> > and have really only raced at Daytona, NC and a little bit of Atlanta
> > in N2002. From what I have seen so far it is a mixed bag. I still
> > saw problems with the AI entering the pits. I did actually have some
> > yellows caused by the AI (without me involved) at Daytona and NC which
> > was great. I got sick of every stop in N4 being a green flag stop.
> > There are a few other issues that I hoped would be fixed or improved
> > in N2002 but still remain.
> >
> > Performance for me was about the same. I got slightly better FPS in
> > N4 (both using the same graphics settings). I run OpenGL at
> > 1280x960x16 and to me the graphics look about the same. Direct3D does
> > look much better but I get better FPS using OpenGL. Sound is much
> > improved all though the sound mod that was put out by someone who
> > extracted the sounds from the N2002 demo were, IMO, just as good if
> > not better. I have a SB live and I did have some sound issues but I
> > think I have them fixed for the most part.
> >
> > Other improvements I like... The player manager now seems to work (I
> > had problems with it in n4). I like the ability to restart any one of
> > the four parts of a race without having to abandon and restart the
> > race (there is a bug however with a saved event in the season mode).
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:11:14 GMT, "Johnny Mac" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > >How much better is N2002 than N4
> > >I didn't think the screen shots looked all that much better
> > >
> > >N4 runs great on my
> > >abit kr7a raid
> > >amd 1700
> > >ati aiw 32 meg radeon
> > >SB live
> > >512 2100 ddr memory
> > >
> > >how well will n2002 run on this system?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Brian Oster
> >
>
>
>
"Jason Monds" wrote ...
> If the patch fixes the textures on a KyroII and the
> engine sound cutting out on the SBLive, I'll be a happy camper.
Jason, is your SBLive new, or have you run it successfully with other games.
I just bought a new PC with an SBLive in it, and had a "ratcheting" sound
effect in GPL, haven't tried it with NR02 yet. Old machine had SBLive also,
and didn't have any problem.
"Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> The improvements are not just in the looks. It's the physics, sound,
> everything really. If the patch fixes the textures on a KyroII
>sniparoni< Jason Monds
what tex probs with kyroII? i've got kyro I and the demo looks fine......at
least i think it does.....am i missing what i'm sposed to be seeing? will i
care if i never see anything better? Who invented chocolate syrup and why?
hmmmmm. crawling back under the rock now.
rob
>
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so, what's the problem? belly up to the bar! you know you want
to......know how you feel though......do i want to part with the bux
now......
rob
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> thanks Brian, > very detailed post I'll have to think about it > I have bought every version of this simulator > that Papyrus was involved with all the way back to NASCAR I > > > "Brian Oster"
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hey Brian where can I get that sound mod?
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> Performance for me was about the same. I got slightly better FPS in > N4 (both using the same graphics settings). I run OpenGL at > 1280x960x16 and to me the graphics look about the same. Direct3D does > look much better but I get better FPS using OpenGL. Sound is much > improved all though the sound mod that was put out by someone who > extracted the sounds from the N2002 demo were, IMO, just as good if > not better. I have a SB live and I did have some sound issues but I > think I have them fixed for the most part.On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 12:07:44 GMT, "Johnny Mac" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>hey Brian where can I get that sound mod?
www.theuspits.com
Andre
The only problem with the KyroII and NR2002 that I can see is while at
Las Vegas, you may get a few grass textures that are just garbage data.
Now Since you don't drive on the grass, this really isn't a problem ;)
Further ahead on the track, the white lines maybe not textured properly
(black-ish lines) but it's really quite far ahead that it isn't a
problem either.
These issues are documented in the readme and hopefully will get fixed
in the patch.
rb wrote:
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> > "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > The improvements are not just in the looks. It's the physics, sound, > > everything really. If the patch fixes the textures on a KyroII > > >sniparoni< > Jason Monds > > what tex probs with kyroII? i've got kyro I and the demo looks fine......at > least i think it does.....am i missing what i'm sposed to be seeing? will i > care if i never see anything better? Who invented chocolate syrup and why? > > hmmmmm. crawling back under the rock now. > > rob > >I had my SBLive for a loooong time, at least a year. My motherboard is
a ASUS A7A266 with the ALi chipset. I've heard the VIA chipset can
cause problems with the SBLive -- check there first. Otherwise, I've
had no problems with the soundcard and running 24 sounds on NR2002 or 16
sounds on GPL.
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> > "Jason Monds" wrote ... > > If the patch fixes the textures on a KyroII and the > > engine sound cutting out on the SBLive, I'll be a happy camper. > > Jason, is your SBLive new, or have you run it successfully with other games. > I just bought a new PC with an SBLive in it, and had a "ratcheting" sound > effect in GPL, haven't tried it with NR02 yet. Old machine had SBLive also, > and didn't have any problem.I think this may very well be the case. I have a via chipset and
after updating to the *latest* 4-1 drivers I started having problems
with the video locking up and popping with my sb live. I eventually
did a fresh install of win98 and used the drivers that originally
shipped with the mb and everything is fine. I also dual boot to xp
pro and I am using the latest 4-1 drivers and the video is fine, but I
have had some audio problems. I swear it is like a friggin jig-saw
puzzle trying to match up os/video drivers/sound drivers/chipset
drivers and get everything to work.
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 12:33:29 -0700, Jason Monds
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Brian Oster
