Damn! It was only a matter of time :(

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http://www.gplegends.net/movies/ Anywhere else to get good movies now?

Kendt Eklund <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > http://www.gplegends.net/movies/ > Anywhere else to get good movies now? All the movies we used to have are in a moving phase.... expect them to be all comfy on their new server sometime soon, I'll post once they are up again after all that music copyright trouble. Mikkel Gram-Hansen -- Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

You know, the real evil in this is the "Must Protect" clause in all the laws. If a company does not actively enforce it's patents, they lose them. If that one law was amended, the companies could choose whether to look the other way or not, but retain full rights and privilages to act any time they want, we wouldn't live in such a "mine Mine MINE!" society. -Larry "Kendt Eklund" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > http://www.gplegends.net/movies/ > > Anywhere else to get good movies now?

"Larry (The Other Larry)" wrote:

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> > You know, the real evil in this is the "Must Protect" clause in all the > laws. If a company does not actively enforce it's patents, they lose them. > > If that one law was amended, the companies could choose whether to look the > other way or not, but retain full rights and privilages to act any time they > want, we wouldn't live in such a "mine Mine MINE!" society. > > -Larry

This thread seems to be about copyrights, not patents. > "Kendt Eklund" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.gplegends.net/movies/ > > > > Anywhere else to get good movies now?

On Sat, 09 Mar 2002 20:52:42 GMT, "Matthew V. Jessick" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Larry (The Other Larry)" wrote: >> >> You know, the real evil in this is the "Must Protect" clause in all the >> laws. If a company does not actively enforce it's patents, they lose them. >> >> If that one law was amended, the companies could choose whether to look the >> other way or not, but retain full rights and privilages to act any time they >> want, we wouldn't live in such a "mine Mine MINE!" society. >> >> -Larry > >This thread seems to be about copyrights, not patents. >

And for the edification of the previous poster I'd like to explicitly point out that copyrights do NOT have to be defended in the manner of trademarks, * and neither do patents.* KFG

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Kevin F. Gavitt) writes: >And for the edification of the previous poster I'd like to explicitly >point out that copyrights do NOT have to be defended in the manner of >trademarks, * and neither do patents.* > And as a matter of fact, I could re-record any song I like, and put it on my album without getting prior consent from the original artist. I just have to pay royalties based on sales... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > (Kevin F. Gavitt) writes: > > >And for the edification of the previous poster I'd like to explicitly > >point out that copyrights do NOT have to be defended in the manner of > >trademarks, * and neither do patents.* > > > > And as a matter of fact, I could re-record any song I like, and put it on my > album without getting prior consent from the original artist. I just have to > pay royalties based on sales... > > Eldred

Mostly, you are correct, but I think it depends on who owns the song you want to record. Just about everything you've ever heard is part of some kind of syndicate like ASCAP that has all the royalty arrangements already worked out. When most artists record musical works, the publishing company becomes owner of the creative content, and they are the ones who actually belong to these syndicates. But if I wrote a song, recorded it, never published it through traditional distribution channels, but yet you somehow heard it and you wanted to record a version of it, you better believe you would need my permission first. Of course your A&R guy would make ME sell MY soul before you would ever be allowed to actually do the recording... and so 20 years later, my musical masterpiece becomes part of a soap commercial jingle. Also, you usually have to pay royalties for any live performances of songs governed by these types of arrangements, even if you never record them. Gerald

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gerald Moore) writes:

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>Mostly, you are correct, but I think it depends on who owns the song >you want to record. Just about everything you've ever heard is part >of some kind of syndicate like ASCAP that has all the royalty >arrangements already worked out. When most artists record musical >works, the publishing company becomes owner of the creative content, >and they are the ones who actually belong to these syndicates. But if >I wrote a song, recorded it, never published it through traditional >distribution channels, but yet you somehow heard it and you wanted to >record a version of it, you better believe you would need my >permission first. Of course your A&R guy would make ME sell MY soul >before you would ever be allowed to actually do the recording... and >so 20 years later, my musical masterpiece becomes part of a soap >commercial jingle. > >Also, you usually have to pay royalties for any live performances of >songs governed by these types of arrangements, even if you never >record them. > >Gerald

You can *record* whatever you WANT - how can they stop you, really? I heard it in a music newsgroup. Say I wanted to remake a song by Ramsey Lewis. I would record the song, and request the royalty 'contract' from the record company. In that paperwork, it would state how much of a royalty has to be paid per unit sold. Then the record company would be paid that stated amount per album I sold. I thought it was a lot more complicated, but from the explanation it isn't. Since I haven't done my CD yet it's a moot point for me, but I'll be exploring this in the next year or so. :-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > You can *record* whatever you WANT - how can they stop you, really? IIRC that depends on who owns the publishing rights. Yes, if you're dealing with someone who publishes their songs through a major publishing house, normally you just have to pay a royalty fee for any copies of the song that are sold and credit the person who wrote the song. A few years ago it was something like 7 cents per copy. I'm not positive, but I believe if you publish songs yourself you can deny their use. I would have to double check the law since I don't really care much for creative property laws (i.e. I don't copyright/publish my own music because I don't believe in that). Jason

[email hidden] (jason moyer) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > > > You can *record* whatever you WANT - how can they stop you, really? Well true. I was talking about if you want to sell it or perform it for profit (And probably also give it away if the RIAA had its way.) What kind of music are you into, Eldred? I used to play guitar in a thrash metal band.

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> IIRC that depends on who owns the publishing rights. Yes, if you're > dealing with someone who publishes their songs through a major > publishing house, normally you just have to pay a royalty fee for any > copies of the song that are sold and credit the person who wrote the > song. A few years ago it was something like 7 cents per copy. > > I'm not positive, but I believe if you publish songs yourself you can > deny their use. > Jason

You can absolutely deny the use (broadcast, redistribution, etc.) of any copyrighted work that you own. The extent to which you wish to try to enforce your rights is up to you. What's your beef with copyrighting something you create? Gerald

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gerald Moore) writes:

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>[email hidden] (jason moyer) wrote in message >news:<[email hidden]>... >> [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in message >news:<[email hidden]>... >> >> > You can *record* whatever you WANT - how can they stop you, really? > >Well true. I was talking about if you want to sell it or perform it >for profit (And probably also give it away if the RIAA had its way.) >What kind of music are you into, Eldred? I used to play guitar in a >thrash metal band. >

I've been in a jazz band and a top 40 bar band before. My favorite group is Rush, but my interests range from heavy metal to rap to classical to jazz...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.