Broken my Ferrari FF Wheel! Opinions?

In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I would go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is different (inferior?) to mine. When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed to be at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to be too close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? Thanks Iain

I thought the new Ferrari wheel was supposed to be better. I don't think it's gear driven anymore. David G Fisher "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4IDi8.8352$[email hidden]...

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> In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my Guillemot > Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I would > go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > different (inferior?) to mine. > > When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed to be > at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to be too > close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried > various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > Thanks > > Iain > > >

Dave Are we talking about the Thrustmaster Ferrari FF Wheel here? I'm really confused because mine was a Guillemot. There seems to be 2 versions of the Thrustmaster, FF Wheel and a GT FF wheel. What is the difference? The GT is cheaper. Iain "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3UDi8.19929$[email hidden]...

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> I thought the new Ferrari wheel was supposed to be better. I don't think > it's gear driven anymore. > > David G Fisher > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4IDi8.8352$[email hidden]... > > In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my

Guillemot > > Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > > > I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and Iwould > > go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > > different (inferior?) to mine. > > > > When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed tobe > > at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to betoo

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> > close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried > > various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > > > Thanks > > > > Iain > > > > > > > >

On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:13:01 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my Guillemot >Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > >I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I would >go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is >different (inferior?) to mine. > >When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed to be >at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to be too >close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried >various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > >Thanks > >Iain > >

I can tell you I have been studying, sending emails, reading reading reading about wheels for about three months. Top rated in the class from $150 and down is the Momo by Logitech and the Act labs. I ended up buying the Momo, I believe overall more people gave it the nod than the Act Labs. Act Labs has some pretty good upgrade pedals but they wont let you buy them in place of the stock pedals so with them you need to buy two sets of pedals to get the better ones. There are other good wheels out there certainly my conclusion is not from experience but from research. If you go to Google and do a search of this newsgroups for Momo you will find a lot of thumbs up. Brad

I bought the original version Ferrari FF wheel well over a year ago and it is cable driven, NOT gear driven. Its a fantastic wheel. 3 months ago I helped a friend buy one and the new one IS gear driven. Unless there is a new (3rd)model which is cable driven again, then its a fair bet that you can only get a gear driven Ferrari FF wheel now. Mind you my friend's new wheel is still excellent and almost as good as mine - just makes a hell of a racket when you turn it, and its more 'notchy' to use. Strange thing is, when its switched off and you turn the wheel, the red power light comes on until you stop rotating. Interesting electrical circuit design eh? BTW have you tried to fix the pedal connection? Maybe Guillemot can supply a replacement jack which you could re-wire in place. Just a thought. NF. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3UDi8.19929$[email hidden]...

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> I thought the new Ferrari wheel was supposed to be better. I don't think > it's gear driven anymore. > > David G Fisher > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4IDi8.8352$[email hidden]... > > In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my

Guillemot > > Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > > > I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and Iwould > > go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > > different (inferior?) to mine. > > > > When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed tobe > > at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to betoo

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> > close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried > > various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > > > Thanks > > > > Iain > > > > > > > >

hmmm... but does it have F1 style paddles on the wheel for gear shifting? Also, it doesn't have POV hats for looking left and right intuitively and for moving easily through in-race menus. The Ferrari has all that. Also the pedals look as if they don't have much travel. Has the angle got better since I looked at Logitech a couple of years ago? Iain "Brad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:13:01 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my Guillemot > >Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > > >I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I

would > >go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > >different (inferior?) to mine. > > > >When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed tobe

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> >at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to be too > >close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried > >various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > > >Thanks > > > >Iain > > > > > > I can tell you I have been studying, sending emails, reading reading > reading about wheels for about three months. Top rated in the class > from $150 and down is the Momo by Logitech and the Act labs. I ended > up buying the Momo, I believe overall more people gave it the nod than > the Act Labs. Act Labs has some pretty good upgrade pedals but they > wont let you buy them in place of the stock pedals so with them you > need to buy two sets of pedals to get the better ones. > > There are other good wheels out there certainly my conclusion is not > from experience but from research. If you go to Google and do a search > of this newsgroups for Momo you will find a lot of thumbs up. > > Brad

Your're right. I had it backwards. Here's a comparison of the two wheels. http://www.slottweak.com/tmferrari.htm David G Fisher "Krunch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a6f779$cvu$[email hidden]... > I bought the original version Ferrari FF wheel well over a year ago and it > is cable driven, NOT gear driven. Its a fantastic wheel. 3 months ago I > helped a friend buy one and the new one IS gear driven. Unless there is a > new (3rd)model which is cable driven again, then its a fair bet that youcan > only get a gear driven Ferrari FF wheel now. > > Mind you my friend's new wheel is still excellent and almost as good as > mine - just makes a hell of a racket when you turn it, and its more'notchy' > to use. Strange thing is, when its switched off and you turn the wheel,the > red power light comes on until you stop rotating. Interesting electrical > circuit design eh? > > BTW have you tried to fix the pedal connection? Maybe Guillemot can supplya

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> replacement jack which you could re-wire in place. Just a thought. > > NF. > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3UDi8.19929$[email hidden]... > > I thought the new Ferrari wheel was supposed to be better. I don't think > > it's gear driven anymore. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:4IDi8.8352$[email hidden]... > > > In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my > Guillemot > > > Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > > > > > I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I > would > > > go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > > > different (inferior?) to mine. > > > > > > When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed

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> be > > > at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to be > too > > > close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried > > > various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I knew I there was a good comparison of the two wheels posted here at r.a.s. not too long ago, and I just found it using google.com. http://www.slottweak.com/tmferrari.htm David G Fisher "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4IDi8.8352$[email hidden]...

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> In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my Guillemot > Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I would > go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > different (inferior?) to mine. > > When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed to be > at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to be too > close together. What is the general feeling from those who have tried > various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > Thanks > > Iain > > >

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > hmmm... but does it have F1 style paddles on the wheel for gear shifting? Yes. > Also, it doesn't have POV hats for looking left and right intuitively and > for moving easily through in-race menus. The Ferrari has all that. No, but it has six buttons, you can set the upper left button to look left and the upper right to look right, is that intuitive enough for ya? ;) What do you mean by 'in-race menus'? Do you mean the Nascar4/2002 F1 through 9 keys? I us voice recognition for that, MS SideWinder Voice works really well. You can get a shareware version of it here: http://www.gamevoice.com/Download/gamevoiceshare.asp > Also the pedals look as if they don't have much travel. Has the angle got > better since I looked at Logitech a couple of years ago? No, there isn't much travel, but their ok IMO. The angle is still the same but the pedals now pivot. You could always make wedge out of wood to get the angle to your liking. Gerry

Now that is strange. I just checked out Slot's comparison and neither version is what my friend bought. We are located in Australia BTW. My friend's wheel is definately gear driven - it makes the loud noise and lights up the LED when turning the wheel when off - but the pedals are exactly the same as mine (ie original version), it is USB only, and to top it all off he DOES have the throttle & brake paddles behind the wheel too! It's a half breed!! In my opinion the Force effects in his wheel are MUCH lower strength, and I haven't noticed any more subtle effects, but perhaps some tweaking of the settings is what's needed. NF. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U9Gi8.172566$[email hidden]...

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> Your're right. I had it backwards. Here's a comparison of the two wheels. > > http://www.slottweak.com/tmferrari.htm > > David G Fisher > > "Krunch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a6f779$cvu$[email hidden]... > > I bought the original version Ferrari FF wheel well over a year ago and

it > > is cable driven, NOT gear driven. Its a fantastic wheel. 3 months ago I > > helped a friend buy one and the new one IS gear driven. Unless there isa

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> > new (3rd)model which is cable driven again, then its a fair bet that you > can > > only get a gear driven Ferrari FF wheel now. > > > > Mind you my friend's new wheel is still excellent and almost as good as > > mine - just makes a hell of a racket when you turn it, and its more > 'notchy' > > to use. Strange thing is, when its switched off and you turn the wheel, > the > > red power light comes on until you stop rotating. Interesting electrical > > circuit design eh? > > > > BTW have you tried to fix the pedal connection? Maybe Guillemot can

supply

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> a > > replacement jack which you could re-wire in place. Just a thought. > > > > NF. > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3UDi8.19929$[email hidden]... > > > I thought the new Ferrari wheel was supposed to be better. I don't

think

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> > > it's gear driven anymore. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:4IDi8.8352$[email hidden]... > > > > In my recent house move, I've broken the pedal connection on my > > Guillemot > > > > Ferrari FF wheel rendering the whole thing useless. > > > > > > > > I've been highly impressed by this wheel over the last 3 years and I > > would > > > > go out and buy another except that I believe the current version is > > > > different (inferior?) to mine. > > > > > > > > When I looked at others 3 years ago, the Logitech foot pedals seemed > to > > be > > > > at the wrong angle for comfort, and the MS wheel paddles seemed to

be > > too > > > > close together. What is the general feeling from those who havetried

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> > > > various others about the merits of the ff wheels out there? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Also the pedals look as if they don't have much travel. Has the angle got > better since I looked at Logitech a couple of years ago? > Iain Actualy I like the angle of the Logtech pedals better than most. My reason for this is I sit in a regular desk chair so with this elevated seating position the more vertical motion of the Logitech pedals is much more comfortable than the more traditional pivot setup. I use to get very swore ankles with my old Thurstmater setup after long races. Now if they just had a longer travel *sigh* MadDAWG

On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:57:51 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>hmmm... but does it have F1 style paddles on the wheel for gear shifting? >Also, it doesn't have POV hats for looking left and right intuitively and >for moving easily through in-race menus. The Ferrari has all that. >Also the pedals look as if they don't have much travel. Has the angle got >better since I looked at Logitech a couple of years ago? >Iain >

Sure dont know that one.....I think I qualified myself as being unqualified in answering the question :-) probably should have kept my yap shut......why on earth would anyone want to look left or right?? If I wanna go left or right I just go.....watch out for me on the circuit in a couple weeks......if you want I will post where I am racing so you can avoid it. Brad

On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:47:28 +0000, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote: >No, there isn't much travel, but their ok IMO. The angle is still the >same but the pedals now pivot. You could always make wedge out of wood >to get the angle to your liking. > >Gerry Gerry if I post my email address would you trade a couple of emails with me about "Voice" I picked one up at Radio Shack on a closeout for $20 not sure about how it works and such. Check your local store usually they close out at all of their stores. Brad

Thanks Gerry. Using a POV hat next to your thumb is a lot easier than fumbling for buttons I think. The Ferrari has 2 making it easy to set up one for looking left and right (and behind) during the race, and the other for moving through the multiple cockpit menus in F1 2001 while racing. Iain > > Also, it doesn't have POV hats for looking left and right intuitivelyand > > for moving easily through in-race menus. The Ferrari has all that. > > No, but it has six buttons, you can set the upper left button to look > left and the upper right to look right, is that intuitive enough for ya? > ;) What do you mean by 'in-race menus'?

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> > On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:47:28 +0000, Gerry Aitken > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >No, there isn't much travel, but their ok IMO. The angle is still the > >same but the pedals now pivot. You could always make wedge out of wood > >to get the angle to your liking. > > > >Gerry > > Gerry if I post my email address would you trade a couple of emails > with me about "Voice" I picked one up at Radio Shack on a closeout for > $20 not sure about how it works and such.

Sure, feel free. I'll look forward to hearing from you. Gerry

"Krunch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a6fktj$u5j$[email hidden]...

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> Now that is strange. I just checked out Slot's comparison and neither > version is what my friend bought. We are located in Australia BTW. > > My friend's wheel is definately gear driven - it makes the loud noise and > lights up the LED when turning the wheel when off - but the pedals are > exactly the same as mine (ie original version), it is USB only, and to top > it all off he DOES have the throttle & brake paddles behind the wheel too! > It's a half breed!!

Whoa, that's bizarre. Just like you, I have the original, and I talked my friend into buying the new version, which he loves. Slottweak's comparison is right on the money for both of our versions. I think the pedals on the new version are MUCH better than the older ones. I use CH pedals instead so it doesn't bother me. The problem I have is that my paddle shifter microswitches are on their last legs - starting to miss shifts, they don't 'click' anymore, etc. They would be VERY easy to replace if I could just get the parts! 2 microswitches mounted on 2 small PC boards. Guillemot doesn't respond to my requests. If anybody has some spare, I'd love to buy them off you. -Phasor

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:22:15 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks Gerry. > >Using a POV hat next to your thumb is a lot easier than fumbling for buttons >I think. The Ferrari has 2 making it easy to set up one for looking left and >right (and behind) during the race, and the other for moving through the >multiple cockpit menus in F1 2001 while racing. > >Iain

' That is true but there is much more to the system than POV. Add ons are nice but first and foremost I buy what I think the best basic system is best. Now if I made the right decision I will be happy. Brad