Interview with Alison Hine

We finally managed to finish the huge interview with the first lady of Simracing; Alison Hine. 25 pages in word have been moulded into this article, so there ought to be info and news enough to surprise even the oldest GPL hands here in RAS. hehe... Who knew that GPL had no internet multiplayer capabilities, before Alison pointed that out to Papy in the betatest phase ? It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. Mikkel Gram-Hansen -- Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:11:31 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. > >Mikkel Gram-Hansen Very interesting read, thanks a lot Mikkel Andre

Thank Lasse and Alison. I'm just the messenger boy, they did all the hard work ;) Mikkel Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:11:31 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. > > > >Mikkel Gram-Hansen > > Very interesting read, thanks a lot Mikkel > > Andre

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:28:31 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Thank Lasse and Alison. I'm just the messenger boy, they did all the hard >work ;) > >Mikkel Very interesting read, thanks a lot Lasse, Alison and Mikkel Andre

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>Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:11:31 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. >> > >> >Mikkel Gram-Hansen >> >> Very interesting read, thanks a lot Mikkel >> >> Andre > >

Yes, and you know what we must do with the messenger don't you? It's a human tradition that goes waaaaay back. ;) "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c90c1b0$0$60182$[email hidden]...

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> Thank Lasse and Alison. I'm just the messenger boy, they did all the hard > work ;) > > Mikkel > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:11:31 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. > > > > > >Mikkel Gram-Hansen > > > > Very interesting read, thanks a lot Mikkel > > > > Andre > >

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Great stuff! Tore "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c90bdb4$0$60199$[email hidden]...

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> We finally managed to finish the huge interview with the first lady of > Simracing; Alison Hine. > 25 pages in word have been moulded into this article, so there ought to be > info and news enough to surprise even the oldest GPL hands here in RAS. > hehe... Who knew that GPL had no internet multiplayer capabilities, before > Alison pointed that out to Papy in the betatest phase ? > > It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. > > Mikkel Gram-Hansen > -- > Administrator > http://www.racesimcentral.com > >

Mikkel Gram-Hansen ([email hidden]) wrote on 14 Mar 2002: > We finally managed to finish the huge interview with the first lady > of Simracing; Alison Hine.<snip> Fantastic stuff. Thank you, thank you, thank you. (Please pass on thanks to whoever you think should get them... ;-) ) > Who knew that GPL had no internet > multiplayer capabilities, before Alison pointed that out to Papy in > the betatest phase ? <snip> Someone get Geoff Crammond to read this bit... Interesting to see that GPL nearly didn't allow Shift-R in Intermediate mode - that would *really* have affected VROC Monza races! - and that Alison & co. very very nearly got an AI slider built in, but were stopped by "one guy with veto power". I'd like to meet that man in a dark alleyway ;-) "I don't see a future in pro sim racing at all," says Alison. That'll set the cat among the pigeons, I expect. On the other hand, she's "heard from a reliable source that almost all the top young Formula Atlantic and CART drivers use GPL to keep their reflexes sharp". That's a hell of a tribute to the game, really. And as for WSC...! -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

Excellent interview, bravo !! On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:55:48 GMT, "Tore Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Great stuff! > >Tore > >"Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:3c90bdb4$0$60199$[email hidden]... >> We finally managed to finish the huge interview with the first lady of >> Simracing; Alison Hine. >> 25 pages in word have been moulded into this article, so there ought to be >> info and news enough to surprise even the oldest GPL hands here in RAS. >> hehe... Who knew that GPL had no internet multiplayer capabilities, before >> Alison pointed that out to Papy in the betatest phase ? >> >> It's frontpage news at http://www.racesimcentral.com Enjoy. >> >> Mikkel Gram-Hansen >> -- >> Administrator >> http://www.racesimcentral.com >> >> > >

On 15 Mar 2002 00:23:13 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote: >Interesting to see that GPL nearly didn't allow Shift-R in Intermediate >mode - that would *really* have affected VROC Monza races! - Maybe people would be more carefull? I'm in a no-shift-r league, and you automatically become even more carefull if you know you can't shift-r.. >and that >Alison & co. very very nearly got an AI slider built in, but were >stopped by "one guy with veto power". I'd like to meet that man in a >dark alleyway ;-) I thought this would be Kaemmer? >"I don't see a future in pro sim racing at all," says Alison. That'll I think she is very right, hence I allways wondered what the hell FILSCA was talking about.. sim racing will never get a big audience to attract sponsors. >And as for WSC...! Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. Andre >-- >"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, >really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. > >The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

On 15 Mar 2002 00:23:13 GMT, David Buttery >Interesting to see that GPL nearly didn't allow Shift-R in Intermediate >mode - that would *really* have affected VROC Monza races! - Maybe people would be more carefull? I'm in a no-shift-r league, and you automatically become even more carefull if you know you can't shift-r.. I thought this would be Kaemmer? I think she is very right, hence I allways wondered what the hell FILSCA was talking about.. sim racing will never get a big audience to attract sponsors. Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. Andre

On 15 Mar 2002 00:23:13 GMT, David Buttery wrote: >Interesting to see that GPL nearly didn't allow Shift-R in Intermediate >mode - that would *really* have affected VROC Monza races! - and that >Alison & co. very very nearly got an AI slider built in, but were >stopped by "one guy with veto power". I'd like to meet that man in a >dark alleyway ;-) I want to buy him a beer. Remco

> Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people > can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and > Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. Piffle :) X-Plane has done mighty well.

"X-Plane"....is not a racing sim! TP "Carol Bekker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hXnk8.2636$[email hidden]...

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> > Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people > > can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and > > Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. > > Piffle :) X-Plane has done mighty well. > >

Excuse me, the post said '2 people can program a game' I assume you do not see X-plane as being as complex as a racing sim, why is that? So I take it Mr Pabst you dont want anything to do with WSC in the future. "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r1pk8.44322$[email hidden]...

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> "X-Plane"....is not a racing sim! > > TP > > > "Carol Bekker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hXnk8.2636$[email hidden]... > > > Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people > > > can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and > > > Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. > > > > Piffle :) X-Plane has done mighty well. > > > > > >

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:56:49 -0000, "Carol Bekker" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people >> can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and >> Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. > >Piffle :) X-Plane has done mighty well. Point taken :) I didn't knew X-Plane was made by 2 programmers (in fact I don't know anything about X-Plane :) But look at how long WSC is in development now.. Chris and Tony should have done the physics part, empire should have put a whole team of people on the music, graphics and that kind of time-consuming stuff. The time WSC is in the making (and the date of the first promised demo) is getting rather ridiculous. Andre

He's still waiting for Starsky and Hutch Racing. "Carol Bekker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahpk8.3606$[email hidden]... > Excuse me, the post said '2 people can program a game' > > I assume you do not see X-plane as being as complex as a racing sim,why is > that? > > So I take it Mr Pabst you dont want anything to do with WSC in thefuture.

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> > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:r1pk8.44322$[email hidden]... > > "X-Plane"....is not a racing sim! > > > > TP > > > > > > "Carol Bekker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hXnk8.2636$[email hidden]... > > > > Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2

people > > > > can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chrisand

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> > > > Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. > > > > > > Piffle :) X-Plane has done mighty well. > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:10:31 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:56:49 -0000, "Carol Bekker" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>> Yup.. I don't expect WSC will ever be released (the age where 2 people >>> can program a game is history) and I feel really sorry for Chris and >>> Tony. I hope they can prove me wrong one day. >> >>Piffle :) X-Plane has done mighty well. > >Point taken :) >I didn't knew X-Plane was made by 2 programmers (in fact I don't know >anything about X-Plane :)

X-Plane was made by ONE programmer. On a Macintosh, no less. /petern

Remco Moedt ([email hidden]) wrote on 15 Mar 2002:

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> On 15 Mar 2002 00:23:13 GMT, David Buttery wrote: > >>Interesting to see that GPL nearly didn't allow Shift-R in >>Intermediate mode - that would *really* have affected VROC Monza >>races! - and that Alison & co. very very nearly got an AI slider >>built in, but were stopped by "one guy with veto power". I'd like >>to meet that man in a dark alleyway ;-) > > I want to buy him a beer.

I see your point, but surely an AI slider on Novice level only would have been reasonable? VROC races are generally Intermediate (with the odd Pro), so they wouldn't have been affected. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

On 16 Mar 2002 01:26:25 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Remco Moedt ([email hidden]) wrote on 15 Mar 2002: > >> On 15 Mar 2002 00:23:13 GMT, David Buttery wrote: >> >>>Interesting to see that GPL nearly didn't allow Shift-R in >>>Intermediate mode - that would *really* have affected VROC Monza >>>races! - and that Alison & co. very very nearly got an AI slider >>>built in, but were stopped by "one guy with veto power". I'd like >>>to meet that man in a dark alleyway ;-) >> >> I want to buy him a beer. > >I see your point, but surely an AI slider on Novice level only would >have been reasonable? VROC races are generally Intermediate (with the >odd Pro), so they wouldn't have been affected.

What does the AI slides have to do with VROC races? Andre

Yea lord knows that anything that might have made GPL more accessible would have been a terrible thing...look how well it did at the box office...oh. GPL was done in at the box office by hardcore people who only wanted other people to play it the way they thought it should be played. An absurd proposition if ever there was one. PAPA DOC >I want to buy him a beer. > >Remco > Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001 www.papadoc.net Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the 10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

Andre Warringa ([email hidden]) wrote on 16 Mar 2002: > What does the AI slides have to do with VROC races? Good question. I must have nicked that beer :) (Having said that, I have driven in VROC races with AI drivers once or twice.) -- If you know where I can get v6.01 (the official link's dead) of the EDSAC Simulator, *please* email and tell me! The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:22:36 GMT, [email hidden] (Pierre Legrand) wrote:

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>Yea lord knows that anything that might have made GPL more accessible >would have been a terrible thing...look how well it did at the box >office...oh. > >GPL was done in at the box office by hardcore people who only wanted >other people to play it the way they thought it should be played. An >absurd proposition if ever there was one.

I agree it's hard to win with the GPL system, but I disagree that's hard to race the AI. People expect to win after 5 minutes practice, and if they can't do that they say that the game is too hard. Take N2002, for example. I installed it, and since I had no wheel connected, I used the keys. AI on 70%, all aids on, and I won the first race over 40% starting from the back, and when I had the lead, I put my mug on the throttle key, and watched how I won....yoohoo, I won my first race in N2002! Now take GPL.....if someone said he won a race in GPL I knew what he had to do to get that done... Other point with the GPL AI is, that they adjust to your laptimes. The fastest AI drivers don't improve much, but the backrunners do, so the grid will become much closer. In N2002 all the AI drivers get the same boost. (Well, I think they get) GPL was/is indeed too hard for the novice racer, but IMO that was not because of the AI system, but the lack of lateral grip. Remco > >PAPA DOC > >>I want to buy him a beer.

Well, at an AI of 70%/all aids/using keyboard, I bet GPL would produce the same results :) -John "Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:22:36 GMT, [email hidden] (Pierre Legrand) > wrote: > > >Yea lord knows that anything that might have made GPL more accessible > >would have been a terrible thing...look how well it did at the box > >office...oh. > > > >GPL was done in at the box office by hardcore people who only wanted > >other people to play it the way they thought it should be played. An > >absurd proposition if ever there was one. > > I agree it's hard to win with the GPL system, but I disagree that's > hard to race the AI. People expect to win after 5 minutes practice, > and if they can't do that they say that the game is too hard. Take > N2002, for example. I installed it, and since I had no wheel > connected, I used the keys. AI on 70%, all aids on, and I won the > first race over 40% starting from the back, and when I had the lead, > I put my mug on the throttle key, and watched how I won....yoohoo, > I won my first race in N2002! > > Now take GPL.....if someone said he won a race in GPL I knew what > he had to do to get that done... > > Other point with the GPL AI is, that they adjust to your laptimes. The > fastest AI drivers don't improve much, but the backrunners do, so the > grid will become much closer. In N2002 all the AI drivers get the same > boost. (Well, I think they get) > > GPL was/is indeed too hard for the novice racer, but IMO that was not > because of the AI system, but the lack of lateral grip. > > Remco > > > > >PAPA DOC > > > >>I want to buy him a beer. >

John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, at an AI of 70%/all aids/using keyboard, I bet GPL would produce the > same results :) No, I think it's mostly agreed that the aids in GPL (as they should do IMHO) prevent you from going as quickly as you might without them. Jonny

So do the ones in N2002 :) -John "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jcql8.27156 > No, I think it's mostly agreed that the aids in GPL (as they should > do IMHO) prevent you from going as quickly as you might without them. > > Jonny > >

Its just my belief that not allowing options to improve gameplay for the rabid is a bad choice. PAPA DOC

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>I agree it's hard to win with the GPL system, but I disagree that's >hard to race the AI. People expect to win after 5 minutes practice, >and if they can't do that they say that the game is too hard. Take >N2002, for example. I installed it, and since I had no wheel >connected, I used the keys. AI on 70%, all aids on, and I won the >first race over 40% starting from the back, and when I had the lead, >I put my mug on the throttle key, and watched how I won....yoohoo, >I won my first race in N2002! > >Now take GPL.....if someone said he won a race in GPL I knew what >he had to do to get that done... > >Other point with the GPL AI is, that they adjust to your laptimes. The >fastest AI drivers don't improve much, but the backrunners do, so the >grid will become much closer. In N2002 all the AI drivers get the same >boost. (Well, I think they get) > >GPL was/is indeed too hard for the novice racer, but IMO that was not >because of the AI system, but the lack of lateral grip. > >Remco > >> >>PAPA DOC >> >>>I want to buy him a beer. >

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001 www.papadoc.net Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the 10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

In article <Jcql8.27156$[email hidden]>, "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Well, at an AI of 70%/all aids/using keyboard, I bet GPL would produce >the >> same results :) > >No, I think it's mostly agreed that the aids in GPL (as they should >do IMHO) prevent you from going as quickly as you might without them. >

Do you go *faster* by using the driving aids in N2002? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.