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I think it will be a sign of things to come in various online games
actually.
Makes sense to a degree, people see your logos same as they would in a real
life environment.
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Agreed, but $400????????
Does the rFactor license allow for an external mod team to profit in such a
way.
"Darus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Agreed, but $400????????
>
"Darus" wrote...
> Agreed, but $400????????
Dirt cheap as advertising rates go...
Jan.
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Exactly. Try pricing a magazine ad or similar.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Darus" wrote... >> Agreed, but $400???????? > > Dirt cheap as advertising rates go... > > Jan. > =--- > >
"schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You get what you pay for (and sometimes less). Exposure for a magazine add,
one would think, is considerably higher than exposure in a track for
rFactor. I find it hilariously tragic the extent people will go in order to
make a dollar. In the end it's all the same, and might be far worse for
those with an avaricious bent. :)
Alanb
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| Exactly. Try pricing a magazine ad or similar. | | "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:f90Nf.285350$[email hidden]... | > "Darus" wrote... | >> Agreed, but $400???????? | > | > Dirt cheap as advertising rates go... | > | > Jan. | > =--- | > | > | |Quoted text (7 lines)
> You get what you pay for (and sometimes less). Exposure for a magazine > add, > one would think, is considerably higher than exposure in a track for > rFactor. I find it hilariously tragic the extent people will go in order > to > make a dollar. In the end it's all the same, and might be far worse for > those with an avaricious bent. :)
"Alan Bernardo" wrote...
> You get what you pay for (and sometimes less). Exposure for a
> magazine add, one would think, is considerably higher than
> exposure in a track for rFactor. I find it hilariously tragic the
> extent people will go in order to make a dollar. In the end it's
> all the same, and might be far worse for those with an avaricious
> bent. :)
Ok, a quarter page add in Elektuur (local monthly electronics magazine;
circulation about 7000): $500,- for 3 months.
This is for a year and, if the mod is any good, a lot more than 3500 people
will DL it over that time. The company/individual is also seen as supporting
the rF community. I still say it's a pretty good deal.
Jan.
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YOu see this add on ebay? I think I still have my copy AND the rendition2
card I bought so it would run good <VBG>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5836408431&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr4_PcN_BIN_Stores_IT
Larry enlightened us with:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP%3Cwbr%3EI.dll?ViewItem&item=5669521377%3Cwbr%3E&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3Cwbr%3E%3AIT&rd=1
Let me see if I have this right...
"Someone" decides to sell updated track gfx, skies and road textures
for rFactor and gets CRUCIFIED for it, yet "someone" else offers up an
Ebay auction for track advertising on a totally fictional race track
and it's "a pretty good deal"??? Looking at the auctions as I type
this, the "winner" (I use that term loosely) will be paying $500 for
the "right" to advertise at Crossfire Speedway. Can Nextel be far
behind?
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't one of the many mentioned
"negatives" of rF the totally fictional basis of the cars and
locations? And don't forget the fact the sim racing world gurus openly
ridicule ovals and oval racing as the sport of simpletons. So perhaps
3500 downloads might be a bit of a stretch.
Now, looking at the Racecast "rRank", I see that there are 4928 drivers
registered. Of course there are some who haven't registered and there
are some who registered more than one name, so let's call the 4928 a
reasonable number of rF owners. That's over 2000 less than the
circulation of an electronics magazine that I have never heard of.
Yep, I guess I am wrong...this is the deal of the century!
I have this somewhere :)
As well as Indy Car II, Nascar 1 thru 2003 (and all in-between).
-Larry
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> YOu see this add on ebay? I think I still have my copy AND the rendition2 > card I bought so it would run good <VBG> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5836408431&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr4_PcN_BIN_Stores_IT > > > Larry enlightened us with: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP%3Cwbr%3EI.dll?ViewItem&item=5669521377%3Cwbr%3E&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3Cwbr%3E%3AIT&rd=1 > >Quoted text (8 lines)
| | Now, looking at the Racecast "rRank", I see that there are 4928 drivers | registered. Of course there are some who haven't registered and there | are some who registered more than one name, so let's call the 4928 a | reasonable number of rF owners. That's over 2000 less than the | circulation of an electronics magazine that I have never heard of. | | Yep, I guess I am wrong...this is the deal of the century!Well, it would <seem> to me that you PROVED my point. I was giving the
benefit of the doubt to the fact that all 4928 ppl. would "see" the
advertising that someone paid $500 for. I then compared it to the
circulation of the mentioned magazine. As you said, not all the rF
owners will run the stock cars mods or even that particular track.
Again, it doesn't seem like a great investment to me.
When I am racing I don't "see" any ads as they pass by and I don't buy
products soley because I see an ad for it. I like Dale Jr., but don't
like Bud, I am a Tony Stewart fan, but shop equally at Home Depot and
Lowe's. I am a huge M. Schumacher fan, but have never smoked a single
cigarette.
Your last statement sums it up pretty well, however.
Momst of you piss and moan about when they're about hang you, with a new
rope... <G>
Now again, just like movies, FORD, COKE, Malboro PAY money to have it be
their product IN FRAME... (who knows how much mayeb not a lot) This has
been the achillies heel and oxymornic plot failure in our sims, that Chevy
or interstate batteries thinks it should be paid because the walking talking
racing bilboard is going to be seen "in game" and I never did get that
theory...
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> Well, it would <seem> to me that you PROVED my point. I was giving the > benefit of the doubt to the fact that all 4928 ppl. would "see" the > advertising that someone paid $500 for. I then compared it to the > circulation of the mentioned magazine. As you said, not all the rF > owners will run the stock cars mods or even that particular track. > Again, it doesn't seem like a great investment to me. > > When I am racing I don't "see" any ads as they pass by and I don't buy > products soley because I see an ad for it. I like Dale Jr., but don't > like Bud, I am a Tony Stewart fan, but shop equally at Home Depot and > Lowe's. I am a huge M. Schumacher fan, but have never smoked a single > cigarette. > > Your last statement sums it up pretty well, however.>Surely this would be illegal without ISI's permission. Any lawyers around here?
What part, the creation of a fictious track? I thought that's what
rfactor was all about, making it easy for the modders? Or the modders
choice in what he uses for incidental graphics? It's not like he's
charging for people to use the track.
If I were running a cottage industry building say wheels & pedals or
race rigs and I thought the track might be used by a few leagues it
might be $500 well spent. Certainly better then a 1/4 page in the
back of PCGamer that will be skipped over by shoot-em-up players. At
least the few people who do see it will all be sim racers... I think
it's called targetted advertising.
If this sort of venture gets a couple of extra tracks out there, why
not? They've got to have scenary anyway...
Larry enlightened us with:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP%3Cwbr%3EI.dll?ViewItem&item=5669521377%3Cwbr%3E&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3Cwbr%3E%3AIT&rd=1
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> YOu see this add on ebay? I think I still have my copy AND the rendition2
> card I bought so it would run good <VBG>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5836408431&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr4_PcN_BIN_Stores_IT
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Hell I bought my TSW for SODA!!
And along the lines of the OP, back when we were beta testing Leadfoot,
Wilshe had us tryin to sell billboards in that game.
