OT: Asus P4T-E mobo query

Hello all ! I've just upgraded my old P3 1gig system with a new P4 1.8 and Asus P4T-E combo. I've upgraded my own comp a couple times and never ran across this before. The comp installed an MPU-401 device that doesnt do a thing, plus i got a message when re-installing my old Diamond MX300 sound card about not being plugged into the primary PCI bus. It also mentioned the MPU-401, and other devices not working in this config. The only other card i use in this thing besides my Asus V8200 G3 card, is my 3Com network card. Everything works fine, but i would like to get the sound card on the primary PCI bus and kill two birds with one stone. So, heres the question.... How do i know which PCI slot is the primary PCI bus??? I always thought that the PCI slot (1) next to the AGP slot was a shared IRQ (i am not using that slot right now for that reason). I'm not a computer wizard, so i hope this isnt too stoopid of a question :) Thanks for listening, guys. BB

"GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:x_Js8.196289$[email hidden]...

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> Hello all ! > I've just upgraded my old P3 1gig system with a new P4 1.8 and Asus P4T-E > combo. I've upgraded my own comp a couple times and never ran across this > before. > The comp installed an MPU-401 device that doesnt do a thing, plus i got a > message when re-installing my old Diamond MX300 sound card about not being > plugged into the primary PCI bus. It also mentioned the MPU-401, and other > devices not working in this config. The only other card i use in this

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> besides my Asus V8200 G3 card, is my 3Com network card. > Everything works fine, but i would like to get the sound card on the > primary PCI bus and kill two birds with one stone. So, heres the > question.... How do i know which PCI slot is the primary PCI bus??? I > always thought that the PCI slot (1) next to the AGP slot was a shared IRQ > (i am not using that slot right now for that reason). I'm not a computer > wizard, so i hope this isnt too stoopid of a question :) > Thanks for listening, guys. BB

Total guess, but does your MB have an on-board sound card? Try disabling it in the BIOS and, if that fails, find a jumper on the MB itself to disable it. I know my PC had problems until I disabled the built-in sound (I think it's a Yamaha chip of some kind). BIOS didn't work, I had to use the jumper.

in the manual it should have a chart showing IRQ allocations for all the PCI/AGP slots. Choose only slots that are not shared with something else that you are using. "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:x_Js8.196289$[email hidden]...

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> Hello all ! > I've just upgraded my old P3 1gig system with a new P4 1.8 and Asus P4T-E > combo. I've upgraded my own comp a couple times and never ran across this > before. > The comp installed an MPU-401 device that doesnt do a thing, plus i got a > message when re-installing my old Diamond MX300 sound card about not being > plugged into the primary PCI bus. It also mentioned the MPU-401, and other > devices not working in this config. The only other card i use in this

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> besides my Asus V8200 G3 card, is my 3Com network card. > Everything works fine, but i would like to get the sound card on the > primary PCI bus and kill two birds with one stone. So, heres the > question.... How do i know which PCI slot is the primary PCI bus??? I > always thought that the PCI slot (1) next to the AGP slot was a shared IRQ > (i am not using that slot right now for that reason). I'm not a computer > wizard, so i hope this isnt too stoopid of a question :) > Thanks for listening, guys. BB > >

That's one of the pages i have marked. But Asus has it in a table with an alphabetic listing for IRQ's. I'll just plug the sound card into an non-shared slot, and quit wondering about Chinese translation charts :). Just seems weird this mobo will install a MPU-401 device (whatever that is) even though i had no sound card physically installed and no on-board sound built into it. Guess this makes me a specialist in guessnostics and swaptronics. Hee heee. Thanks Bob for pulling my head outta you know where. "Bob Fellenbaum" <hvacguy@ddgwireless(remove).com> wrote in message news:3cb3724f$[email hidden]... > in the manual it should have a chart showing IRQ allocations for all the > PCI/AGP slots. Choose only slots that are not shared with something else > that you are using.

That is strange, I have no idea why it would install an MPU-401 device with no sound card but thats what makes computer building so much fun. <g> "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZnLs8.28164$[email hidden]... > That's one of the pages i have marked. But Asus has it in a table with an > alphabetic listing for IRQ's. I'll just plug the sound card into an > non-shared slot, and quit wondering about Chinese translation charts :). > Just seems weird this mobo will install a MPU-401 device (whatever thatis) > even though i had no sound card physically installed and no on-board sound > built into it. Guess this makes me a specialist in guessnostics and > swaptronics. Hee heee. Thanks Bob for pulling my head outta you knowwhere.

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> "Bob Fellenbaum" <hvacguy@ddgwireless(remove).com> wrote in message > news:3cb3724f$[email hidden]... > > in the manual it should have a chart showing IRQ allocations for all the > > PCI/AGP slots. Choose only slots that are not shared with something else > > that you are using. > > >

"GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZnLs8.28164$[email hidden]... > That's one of the pages i have marked. But Asus has it in a table with an > alphabetic listing for IRQ's. I'll just plug the sound card into an > non-shared slot, and quit wondering about Chinese translation charts :). > Just seems weird this mobo will install a MPU-401 device (whatever thatis) > even though i had no sound card physically installed and no on-board sound > built into it. Guess this makes me a specialist in guessnostics and > swaptronics. Hee heee. Thanks Bob for pulling my head outta you knowwhere.

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> "Bob Fellenbaum" <hvacguy@ddgwireless(remove).com> wrote in message > news:3cb3724f$[email hidden]... > > in the manual it should have a chart showing IRQ allocations for all the > > PCI/AGP slots. Choose only slots that are not shared with something else > > that you are using. > > >

Not sure anymore, but I think an "MPU-401 device" refers to and old external dos midi sound device often used to get better sound in games. ie better then a standard Sound Blaster card. Modern sound devices often emulate one of these for some retro compatability. So check your sound card documentation to check. elrikk

Since you have this board, and newsgroup access, check out alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus It's one stop shopping for Asus related questions. For this question, I think the MPU-401 is onboard built-in audio for that motherboard. You probably need to set a jumper or DIP switch (or maybe it's a BIOS setting) to disable the MPU-401 so that it doesn't conflict with your MX300. Actually, you might want to try it without the MX300 and see what the MPU can do for your sound as it's a pretty new board - maybe it's better than the MX300? -- Philip D'Amato [email hidden] "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:x_Js8.196289$[email hidden]... > Hello all ! > I've just upgraded my old P3 1gig system with a new P4 1.8 and Asus P4T-E > combo. I've upgraded my own comp a couple times and never ran across this > before. > The comp installed an MPU-401 device that doesnt do a thing, plus i got a > message when re-installing my old Diamond MX300 sound card about not being > plugged into the primary PCI bus. It also mentioned the MPU-401, and other > devices not working in this config. The only other card i use in this thing > besides my Asus V8200 G3 card, is my 3Com network card. > Everything works fine, but i would like to get the sound card on the > primary PCI bus and kill two birds with one stone. So, heres the > question.... How do i know which PCI slot is the primary PCI bus??? I > always thought that the PCI slot (1) next to the AGP slot was a shared IRQ > (i am not using that slot right now for that reason). I'm not a computer > wizard, so i hope this isnt too stoopid of a question :) > Thanks for listening, guys. BB > >

Thanks for the newsgroup idea, im gonna ask them. This mobo doesnt have onboard audio, and theres nothing that i can see in the bios to shut it off. I'll scour the book and bios again, but i think this is just going to be a permanent yellow ? listed in "other devices". My other gripe with this board is not being able to disable the PS/2 mouse port, i can run my Intellimouse as either PS/2 or USB. I have always used it in the USB, now i gotta run it in the PS/2 port or i get another one of those big yellow ? in device manager too. It's no big wiggle, but seems strange that i cant disable it. Thanks for your input Philip ! "Philip D'Amato" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RW2t8.609$[email hidden]... > Since you have this board, and newsgroup access, check out > alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus > It's one stop shopping for Asus related questions. > For this question, I think the MPU-401 is onboard built-in audio for that > motherboard. You probably need to set a jumper or DIP switch (or maybeit's > a BIOS setting) to disable the MPU-401 so that it doesn't conflict withyour > MX300. Actually, you might want to try it without the MX300 and see what > the MPU can do for your sound as it's a pretty new board - maybe it'sbetter

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> than the MX300? > > -- > > Philip D'Amato > [email hidden] > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:x_Js8.196289$[email hidden]... > > Hello all ! > > I've just upgraded my old P3 1gig system with a new P4 1.8 and Asus

P4T-E > > combo. I've upgraded my own comp a couple times and never ran acrossthis > > before. > > The comp installed an MPU-401 device that doesnt do a thing, plus i gota > > message when re-installing my old Diamond MX300 sound card about notbeing > > plugged into the primary PCI bus. It also mentioned the MPU-401, andother

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> > devices not working in this config. The only other card i use in this > thing > > besides my Asus V8200 G3 card, is my 3Com network card. > > Everything works fine, but i would like to get the sound card on the > > primary PCI bus and kill two birds with one stone. So, heres the > > question.... How do i know which PCI slot is the primary PCI bus??? I > > always thought that the PCI slot (1) next to the AGP slot was a shared

IRQ > > (i am not using that slot right now for that reason). I'm not a computer > > wizard, so i hope this isnt too stoopid of a question :) > > Thanks for listening, guys. BB > > > > >

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:35:49 GMT, "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks for the newsgroup idea, im gonna ask them. This mobo doesnt have >onboard audio, and theres nothing that i can see in the bios to shut it off. >I'll scour the book and bios again, but i think this is just going to be a >permanent yellow ? listed in "other devices". My other gripe with this board >is not being able to disable the PS/2 mouse port, i can run my Intellimouse >as either PS/2 or USB. I have always used it in the USB, now i gotta run it >in the PS/2 port or i get another one of those big yellow ? in device >manager too. It's no big wiggle, but seems strange that i cant disable it. > Thanks for your input Philip !

Most bioses have an option for USB keyb or mouse, so I'm sure if you enable that it will disable the corresponding ps/2 port. MPU-401 is a midi sound device of some description, this has come standard with sound cards since the old sb16. Do you have a modem attached? Often these will install sound drivers and such (although not midi sound stuff normally). Often listed as "serial wave device" or similar. But it certainly does sound like an onboard sound conflict anyway. Check the bios thoroughly (maybe flash it to a newer version) as there may be a conflict in that it thinks you have onboard sound, but you don't. HTH Rafe Mc

In article <qZMs8.55669$[email hidden]>, "elrikk" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Not sure anymore, but I think an "MPU-401 device" refers to and old external >dos midi sound device often used to get better sound in games. ie better >then a standard Sound Blaster card. > >Modern sound devices often emulate one of these for some retro >compatability. > >So check your sound card documentation to check.

MPU-401 device *is* a MIDI device. Not for sounds in games, but to actually connect to MIDI instruments. The old soundblasters had this capability built-in, correct. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of 0-12??? Currently at 0-8...stay tuned... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <qZMs8.55669$[email hidden]>, "elrikk" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Not sure anymore, but I think an "MPU-401 device" refers to and oldexternal

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> >dos midi sound device often used to get better sound in games. ie better > >then a standard Sound Blaster card. > > > >Modern sound devices often emulate one of these for some retro > >compatability. > > > >So check your sound card documentation to check. > > MPU-401 device *is* a MIDI device. Not for sounds in games, but to

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> connect to MIDI instruments. The old soundblasters had this capability > built-in, correct. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of

0-12??? > Currently at 0-8...stay tuned... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. E, you are probably correct. All I rememer about it is that if you had one that some old games could use it to give much better sound than the original SB alone. I always thought that the original SB had a connector to the MPU-401 device but was not one itself. Now I have and Audigy Platinum Ext with every conceivable sound connection possible but still haven't hooked up a even a keyboard (synth) to it or even my guitar. Even got some soft synth, mixer and recording stuff included but still haven't had the time to play with it. Can't see it helping my lap times. ;O) elrikk

This is a MX300, Aureal2 based card. And this is the 3rd mobo to wear this sound card (i.e. ancient). None of my other cards tried to install anything like this. I got enough files installed to get it out of "other devices" and into the 'sound and video" where i disabled the frippin thing and its no longer hogging IRQ 10. Now i can sleep at night knowing Windows is confused and not me !